Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[knoxvol52]

How'd you ever find it?

TWSS!!!

 

[knoxvol52]

It sells itself. . .

TWSS!!!!

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Spring notes – offensive passing game

Using charting of SEC QB passing by Clark Brooks (On3 writer and owner of SecStatCat) I compared Nico’s 2024 performance to Hendon’s 2022 performance (see tables). It may be worth remembering that Nico turned 20 years old 2 days after the Chattanooga game last year while Hendon was the 2nd oldest QB in the conference in 2022, turning 25 years old 4 days after the national championship game that season. jmo.

Spoiler: Tables

In digging through the data that Clark publishes one thing in particular stands out. None of the leading QBs for the 16 conference teams (QB on each team with the most pass attempts) was hurt more by dropped passes than Nico. Of course every team has drops and every year so the only difference is in terms of relative lost production. Our average lost yardage per drop was 15.06 yards so most of our drops were relatively speaking skewing deep. Jaxson Dart and Diego Pavia both had marginally higher drop yard averages but about 25% less drop percentages relative to pass attempts. jmo.

Clark distinguishes between drop passes and uncatchable passes. Percentage-wise Nico had less uncatchable passes than the conference average and less than the much hyped Quentin Ewers. Carson Beck and Jaxson led the conference is lowest uncatchable pass percentage. Nico’s percentage of catchable passes was 80.54%, Beck led the conference at 86.38% with Dart at 85.18%. Ewers was at 80.09% and Milroe was at 81.50%. jmo.

The average catch rate for catchable passes among our top 8 receivers/tight ends last year was 80%. Ethan was at 92.86% and Donte was at 89.66% to lead the group. The lowest catch rates of catchable passes for us who were also the only ones below our average according to Brooks were Squirrel (he was close at 78.57%), Chris at 69.05%, and Chas at 66.67%. For comparison the average depth of throw was highest for Donte, Chris, and Chas. Donte was at 15.69, Chris was at 15.19, and Chas was at 14.18. Squirrel was at 11.88 just behind Bru at 11.95. Bru’s catch rate for catchable passes was at 80%. jmo.

Nimrod led the team in drop percentage at 29.41% of his targets. Kitselman was at 17.86% drops of his targets, Squirrel was at 12.5%, and Brazzell was at 11.86%. For comparison Thornton was at 5.71% and Bru was at 4.55%. Ethan was at 5.88% and Holden didn’t have any drops. Those were our top 8 receivers in terms of targets. Brazzell led all receivers with a 22.29 yards per drop average. Nimrod was second with a 19.6 yards per drop average. Squirrel came in 3rd at 17.0 yards per drop average. jmo.

While Dart, Beck, Ewers, and Milroe could rely on their receivers for yards after catch Nico had to settle mostly for air yards. Relatively speaking Nico’s percentage of air yards was 51% greater than Ewers, 27% greater than Beck, 19% better than Milroe and 6% better than Dart. Obviously Texas, Georgia, and Alabama recruit an abundance of elite talent at receiver and it shows. jmo.

Aside from improving at receiver we also need to improve at protecting Nico. According to Adam Sparks reporting on PFF pressure numbers Nico faced pressure on 120 of his pass attempts. That’s more than a third of all attempts where he’s throwing under duress. jmo.

So it’s never as good as you think and it’s never as bad as you think, or so they say. They also say it’s not just about the QB; it’s also about the other 10 guys around him. jmo.

In the aggregate I think we could have more talent at receiver this year with Matthews, Staley, Davis (TE), Smith, Jackson, Jefferson, and Boo Carter entering the mix. They say receiver is one of the easiest positions to get on the field as a youngster. We’ll see. I think it’ll take some work to replace Bru and Donte. Those two were pretty solid. jmo.

On the line, it’s a work in progress but if Sanders can be ready that should be a step up. I remain cautiously hopeful for the OL this year due to the upgrade in talent and a bit uneasy due to the lack of experience (snaps with us). jmo.

So statistically to improve our passing game on offense this year we need to boost our catchable passes rate, reduce the number of drops, reduce the number of QB pressures, increase our yards after catch rate and increase our catch rate for catchable passes. Assuming at least 13 games this suggests we only need to complete an average of 1.3 additional passes per game vs last year, and since they’re mostly deep, preferably as TDs. That should get our passing game back close to the 2022 performance level. jmo.

Based on the preseason models coming out I think we’ll be a 20 point favorite over Syracuse in Atlanta, probably a 40 point favorite at home against ETSU, then I have us as a 1 point favorite at home against Georgia. By then we should know how we’re doing. Of course the edge in the Georgia game is probably going to come down to our fans as it has against Florida and Alabama the last two times we’ve hosted each of those has-beens. As far as our fans go, I have no doubts or reservations, they are absolutely the best in the entire country and always have been, at least for the 70 years of my life. Our fans are without question the most elite, the most consistent, and the most dedicated position group in our entire program. They’ve won a hell of a lot more games than they’re given credit for. Okay, so maybe that’s just my opinion. TIFWIW.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Spring notes – offensive passing game

Using charting of SEC QB passing by Clark Brooks (On3 writer and owner of SecStatCat) I compared Nico’s 2024 performance to Hendon’s 2022 performance (see tables). It may be worth remembering that Nico turned 20 years old 2 days after the Chattanooga game last year while Hendon was the 2nd oldest QB in the conference in 2022, turning 25 years old 4 days after the national championship game that season. jmo.

Spoiler: Tables

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In digging through the data that Clark publishes one thing in particular stands out. None of the leading QBs for the 16 conference teams (QB on each team with the most pass attempts) was hurt more by dropped passes than Nico. Of course every team has drops and every year so the only difference is in terms of relative lost production. Our average lost yardage per drop was 15.06 yards so most of our drops were relatively speaking skewing deep. Jaxson Dart and Diego Pavia both had marginally higher drop yard averages but about 25% less drop percentages relative to pass attempts. jmo.

Clark distinguishes between drop passes and uncatchable passes. Percentage-wise Nico had less uncatchable passes than the conference average and less than the much hyped Quentin Ewers. Carson Beck and Jaxson led the conference is lowest uncatchable pass percentage. Nico’s percentage of catchable passes was 80.54%, Beck led the conference at 86.38% with Dart at 85.18%. Ewers was at 80.09% and Milroe was at 81.50%. jmo.

The average catch rate for catchable passes among our top 8 receivers/tight ends last year was 80%. Ethan was at 92.86% and Donte was at 89.66% to lead the group. The lowest catch rates of catchable passes for us who were also the only ones below our average according to Brooks were Squirrel (he was close at 78.57%), Chris at 69.05%, and Chas at 66.67%. For comparison the average depth of throw was highest for Donte, Chris, and Chas. Donte was at 15.69, Chris was at 15.19, and Chas was at 14.18. Squirrel was at 11.88 just behind Bru at 11.95. Bru’s catch rate for catchable passes was at 80%. jmo.

Nimrod led the team in drop percentage at 29.41% of his targets. Kitselman was at 17.86% drops of his targets, Squirrel was at 12.5%, and Brazzell was at 11.86%. For comparison Thornton was at 5.71% and Bru was at 4.55%. Ethan was at 5.88% and Holden didn’t have any drops. Those were our top 8 receivers in terms of targets. Brazzell led all receivers with a 22.29 yards per drop average. Nimrod was second with a 19.6 yards per drop average. Squirrel came in 3rd at 17.0 yards per drop average. jmo.

While Dart, Beck, Ewers, and Milroe could rely on their receivers for yards after catch Nico had to settle mostly for air yards. Relatively speaking Nico’s percentage of air yards was 51% greater than Ewers, 27% greater than Beck, 19% better than Milroe and 6% better than Dart. Obviously Texas, Georgia, and Alabama recruit an abundance of elite talent at receiver and it shows. jmo.

Aside from improving at receiver we also need to improve at protecting Nico. According to Adam Sparks reporting on PFF pressure numbers Nico faced pressure on 120 of his pass attempts. That’s more than a third of all attempts where he’s throwing under duress. jmo.

So it’s never as good as you think and it’s never as bad as you think, or so they say. They also say it’s not just about the QB; it’s also about the other 10 guys around him. jmo.

In the aggregate I think we could have more talent at receiver this year with Matthews, Staley, Davis (TE), Smith, Jackson, Jefferson, and Boo Carter entering the mix. They say receiver is one of the easiest positions to get on the field as a youngster. We’ll see. I think it’ll take some work to replace Bru and Donte. Those two were pretty solid. jmo.

On the line, it’s a work in progress but if Sanders can be ready that should be a step up. I remain cautiously hopeful for the OL this year due to the upgrade in talent and a bit uneasy due to the lack of experience (snaps with us). jmo.

So statistically to improve our passing game on offense this year we need to boost our catchable passes rate, reduce the number of drops, reduce the number of QB pressures, increase our yards after catch rate and increase our catch rate for catchable passes. Assuming at least 13 games this suggests we only need to complete an average of 1.3 additional passes per game vs last year, and since they’re mostly deep, preferably as TDs. That should get our passing game back close to the 2022 performance level. jmo.

Based on the preseason models coming out I think we’ll be a 20 point favorite over Syracuse in Atlanta, probably a 40 point favorite at home against ETSU, then I have us as a 1 point favorite at home against Georgia. By then we should know how we’re doing. Of course the edge in the Georgia game is probably going to come down to our fans as it has against Florida and Alabama the last two times we’ve hosted each of those has-beens. As far as our fans go, I have no doubts or reservations, they are absolutely the best in the entire country and always have been, at least for the 70 years of my life. Our fans are without question the most elite, the most consistent, and the most dedicated position group in our entire program. They’ve won a hell of a lot more games than they’re given credit for. Okay, so maybe that’s just my opinion. TIFWIW.

Wide Receivers *

 

[knoxvol52]

Nashville may get a MLB team sooner than expected. St.Petrrsburg has decided against building the Rays a new stadium. Nashville Rays. Edit: the Rays backed out due to Hurricane and costly delays...@peaygolf.

 

[DD4ME]

Happy Friday

March 14, 2025: Refuse to allow someone else to draw you into their fight. It will move you out of your place of peace and stability. Staying in the flow of the Spirit requires a clean heart and an upright spirit. Isaiah 26:3 You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Nashville may get a MLB team sooner than expected. St.Petrrsburg has decided against building the Rays a new stadium. Nashville Rays. Edit: the Rays backed out due to Hurricane and costly delays...@peaygolf.

That’s a pretty good franchise with a solid farm system. Worked be a good get for Nashville.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Hmmm Q10 driver or nah

@peaygolf

 

[volsagain]

The real Baseball season starts today ! SEC baseball GBO beat those stinking gaters

 

[rikberry31]

NASCAR aggressively recruits football players for their pit crews. Those dudes are all good athletes.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Nashville may get a MLB team sooner than expected. St.Petrrsburg has decided against building the Rays a new stadium. Nashville Rays. Edit: the Rays backed out due to Hurricane and costly delays...@peaygolf.

That would be a better decision than Baseball. In my opinion. Baseball is fantastic, esp with what Boyd et al are doing for Minor league teams. Would love to see Nashville do something with that downtown and a stadium.

Boyd bought Bristol Stateliners. Anxious to see how he incorporates that with the Casino.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Sudsy truck wash videos?

It'll be called "Cruella De Vil's Cams & Hams". It'll show my truck & other trucks with earth beating cams, like Cruella De Vil's. There will be scantily clad Twin Peaks type of girls cooking hams on tailgate grills that fit in the bed of a truck and serving them & beers to fans who have dogs. . .

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

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That whiny ***** has a extremely punchable face and attitude...he will fit right in at SC.

 

[Jackcrevol]

That whiny ***** has a extremely punchable face and attitude...he will fit right in at SC.

Dude, is there ever a time you're not 'falling down?'

 

[Glitch]

@Glitch

Looks more hoggish to me. Blech.

 

[DD4ME]

A decent summary of the OK KY game.

The SEC tourney has been action packed.

 

[Jackcrevol]

A decent summary of the OK KY game.

The SEC tourney has been action packed.

I cant handle these dramatic attempts to be amateur sports broadcasters.

 

[DD4ME]

Thoughts?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Thoughts?

other teams playing chess, Titans playing Checkers. Wasting a top draft pick on Cam Ward. This couldve gone to a top flight edge, CB, and WR - which they desperately need.

Missing in Levis was joke. Really every draft day for them is a joke.

 

[B EaZy40]

Hmmm Q10 driver or nah

@peaygolf

Don’t do it. I’m on my second Taylor Made warranty replacement. First was the Stealth, and second was the Q10. This one has been fine so far. I was dead set on snagging the new 35 but after all the videos of the heads exploding, I’m out on TM drivers.

We should link up and play sometime!

 

[TrippieRedd]

Don’t do it. I’m on my second Taylor Made warranty replacement. First was the Stealth, and second was the Q10. This one has been fine so far. I was dead set on snagging the new 35 but after all the videos of the heads exploding, I’m out on TM drivers.

We should link up and play sometime!

I have the mini driver, love it, but was wanting an actual driver. Just kind of unsure at the moment.

Are you in Knox? If so, we can definitely link up and play!

 

[Orange.]

Will Levis to a WNBA men's practice squad. Where losing is the PR goal. Mowing Amy's grass as a side gig.

Just a rumor.

 

[screenthis]

Nashville may get a MLB team sooner than expected. St.Petrrsburg has decided against building the Rays a new stadium. Nashville Rays. Edit: the Rays backed out due to Hurricane and costly delays...@peaygolf.

NOoo...do not take mah Rays. Build that stadium On I-4 near the fair grounds (in Tampa).

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Will Levis to a WNBA men's practice squad. Where losing is the PR goal. Mowing Amy's grass as a side gig.

Just a rumor.

Leave Will Levis alone!