Why is this team so terrible from the three-point line?

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Spartacavolus said:
you don't develop shooters. You recruit shooters and find a way to get them shots. Somebody will point to jrich but he's still a slasher that can now hit the 3. I'm talking about shooters whose roles are to find open space and shoot.
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you can develop shooters to a degree. if it weren't so shooting coaches wouldn't exist
 
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Spartacavolus said:
you don't develop shooters. You recruit shooters and find a way to get them shots. Somebody will point to jrich but he's still a slasher that can now hit the 3. I'm talking about shooters whose roles are to find open space and shoot.
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This has always been a problem imo. I still think Darius Thompson has big upside for his shot; give him a summer to work on it and he'll surprise some folks. I agree with what you said about recruiting shooters. Reese/Edwards were both recruited as 'shooters' per the coaches.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I'm talking about shooters whose roles are to find open space and shoot.
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Yep, and we have no one who fills this role. McBee filled it for the last four years. He found the space and shot the ball. He just didn't make as many as we hoped or needed him to. He was supposed to be our zone buster, but never had the consistency to be that threat.
 
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Solution:Recruit players that can shoot the rock. Defense is important but FG% and timely baskets win games. :yes:
 
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Spartacavolus said:
you don't develop shooters. You recruit shooters and find a way to get them shots. Somebody will point to jrich but he's still a slasher that can now hit the 3. I'm talking about shooters whose roles are to find open space and shoot.
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Bingo! CCM seems to think everyone is going to be like him and will themselves to be a better shooter after arriving at college. That is a rare occurrence, not a common development.
 
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iKrager said:
This has always been a problem imo. I still think Darius Thompson has big upside for his shot; give him a summer to work on it and he'll surprise some folks. I agree with what you said about recruiting shooters. Reese/Edwards were both recruited as 'shooters' per the coaches.
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Except Reese was a 29% three point shooter as a senior in high school.
 
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golfballs said:
you can develop shooters to a degree. if it weren't so shooting coaches wouldn't exist
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Go down the list of our best shooters the last 20 years and they could all shoot before they played their first sec game. None of them went from nonshooter to shooter.
Of course players can improve. Some of that is just adjusting to the college game and length.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Go down the list of our best shooters the last 20 years and they could all shoot before they played their first sec game. None of them went from nonshooter to shooter.
Of course players can improve. Some of that is just adjusting to the college game and length.
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Another astute observation. You can take a good shooter and turn him into a very good shooter and sometimes a very good shooter into a great shooter, but rarely will you turn a non-shooter into a shooter. You have to be born with some ability. If you aren't no amount of work will help.
 
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It's a problem all over basketball. Look at Kentucky, they're having the same problems. Coaches are putting too much stock into how high you can jump, and how fast you can run, rather than can you shoot the damn ball. It's why you watch these mid majors and see them shooting the lights out, that's where most of them end up.
 
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germanicus said:
Another astute observation. You can take a good shooter and turn him into a very good shooter and sometimes a very good shooter into a great shooter, but rarely will you turn a non-shooter into a shooter. You have to be born with some ability. If you aren't no amount of work will help.
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Yeah well I'm talking about the former examples. We haven't had many players go from good to very good.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It's a problem all over basketball. Look at Kentucky, they're having the same problems. Coaches are putting too much stock into how high you can jump, and how fast you can run, rather than can you shoot the damn ball. It's why you watch these mid majors and see them shooting the lights out, that's where most of them end up.
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This was my concern with where Pearl's recruiting seemed to be heading. He fell in love with the athlete as opposed to the basketball player. You need some of both.
 
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Kids in aau let guys to the rim. There is no d. Then they come on campus and play against 22 yr old men and can't get to the rim. Too late to work on the shot by then.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
We jacked up way too many 3s under Pearl his last 3 seasons as well though. Not defending CCM, nor dissin' Pearl (who I want back), just sayin. Pearl had a post player who thought he was a #2 guard, jacking up 5-6 3-pt attempts per game.
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Chris Lofton & T. Prince, who were the 3 point shooters were gone from the team during Pearl's last season.

The team still attempted 3's but had not real high percentage shooters on the team.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I agree, but we haven't been what I would call a "good" 3-point shooting team since Lofton and J. Smith graduated. By "good", I mean accurate as well as disciplined (knowing the difference in a good and bad shot).
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Don't forget about T. Prince being a 3 point shooter.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Wow!! I was thinking of Tajuan Prince who played at Ky. and for the Detroit Pistons.

Got the 1st names mixed up. I knew that he was Prince and that he was from Memphis but forgot his first name.
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No, I think you mean Tayshaun.

JP Prince was a horrible jump shooter. LMAO at anyone thinking he was anything but a guy that got the rim.
 
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to be blunt and get ridiculed for the troof, we need more white spot up shooters. Generally, white guys have more difficulty getting to the rim in aau, etc, so have to be better shooters and the better ones find ways to be sneaky and get in rhythm. You learn to stepback, move without the ball, etc because everyone else on the court can get to the rim except you. So you shoot. And you light people up.

Sorry to offend.
 
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Prince is also the last Tennessee defender that I remember reading the passers eyes and jumping the pass lane. Man I miss creating turnovers.
 
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Lefteye said:
Prince is also the last Tennessee defender that I remember reading the passers eyes and jumping the pass lane. Man I miss creating turnovers.
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Prince was the king at leaking out and getting garbage baskets. He rarely got defensive rebounds, but he feasted off leaking out and getting a transition basket.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
to be blunt and get ridiculed for the troof, we need more white spot up shooters. Generally, white guys have more difficulty getting to the rim in aau, etc, so have to be better shooters and the better ones find ways to be sneaky and get in rhythm. You learn to stepback, move without the ball, etc because everyone else on the court can get to the rim except you. So you shoot. And you light people up.

Sorry to offend.
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my parents are friends with a well-known and successful former D1 coach who will remain nameless. He says the exact same thing about Tennessee. White shooters. Tennessee needs more of them.
 
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