“(It’s) hard to beat the cheaters.”

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Harbaugh complains about cheating and then talks about how Rashan Gary was offered hundreds of thousands to go to other schools. Gary ultimately chooses Michigan over CLEMPSON??!! I wonder why that was? Is it because Gary is a Michigan Man or (gasp) maybe they outbid Clempson?

I always love when these so-called public ivy schools act like they are as pure as the driven snow.
 
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If he considers a disparity in recruiting spending among different schools to be cheating, then he's even dumber and a bigger whiner than I thought he was. Does he really believe that UGA having more money, or being willing to spend more money, on recruiting to be cheating?
“If you want to make Michigan great, and make yourself great, this is a great place to be,” Harbaugh says in the book. “The ones you have to oversell what we have to offer, you know it’s not going to work. If you don’t get the appeal of the program, of a Michigan education, of the kind of camaraderie you get working with like-minded people – well, I don’t know what to tell you. You’ll probably be happier somewhere else – and maybe we will be, too!”
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That sounds like he is saying "I don't actually want to work to convince kids to come here; the ones who want to come here will come here." That is classic, typical Michigan behavior, and why they have the most entitled, big-headed fanbase in college football. I've said that a zillion times on here, and it isn't even close. Michigan is worse than Ohio St fans, and they've won a fraction of what Ohio St has. It's as if he doesn't understand or appreciate that there are lots of other programs that can offer what Michigan offers, and any college recruit would be nuts to even consider going anywhere else. He's a complete joke.
 
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Just as good of a time as any to remind everyone that Michigan is, bar none, the most overrated program in college football history, and Bo Schembechler is perhaps the most overrated figure in American college or professional sports of all time.
 
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BUBear said:
FYP!
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You would say that as a Baylor fan, but remember Texas has won 4 national titles since 1948. Michigan has won half of one, and they won half of that title in pretty controversial fashion.

There are overrated programs (of which Texas actually is one)...and then there is Michigan. Regarding Texas, one thing I will say about them is that most people (perhaps except Oklahoma fans) don't realize just how much more accomplished of a program Oklahoma is than them. They are huge rivals and I think a lot of people assume they've won roughly equivalent amounts of hardware and accolades, but Oklahoma has won quite a bit more, all the while being located in a spot where it's more difficult to recruit.
 
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Pacer92 said:
What a whiney ass...
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TUSKtimes said:
Actually, he hasn't won his own division yet. No SEC bias there.
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bamawriter said:
Maybe he should focus his attention on winning the Big 10, where I'm sure everyone is as pure as the driven snow.
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Pacer, I generally don’t like posts with curse words.........but yours was just too pertinent not to.👍👍

And Bama guys, nice to see SOMETHING can bring us together...a mutual disgust of Harbaugh. ‘Course come “3rd Saturday in October” and we’ll go back to mutually hating each other.🍊🍊🍊 Until then, carry on. You’re doing a good job.
 
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This is the same guy who was having sleepovers at teenager’s houses.

Creepy.
 
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I LMAOed when reading this article. Harbaugh making excuses abiut the SEC when he can't even find a way to win a BIG10 title. He's toast if a 1st year coach at OSU hands the Wolverines an L this year.

So he's sayin' his football teram sucks from a talent viewpoint since the SEC has all the good ones? Great motivational tactic Coach, you believe your team sucks and can't compete with other talent.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Michigan is more overrated than Texas.

Since 1948 they’ve won half a national championship.
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There's more HS talent in Harris County (Houston) than there is in the entire State of Michigan on an annual basis. This doesn't even include the surrounding counts, the Austin area (Westlake and Lake Travis HSs) or the D/FW Metroplex.

Since the advent of integration and scholarship limits Texas has woefully under preformed Michigan with the possible exception of the one great VY championship season.
 
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BUBear said:
There's more HS talent in Harris County (Houston) than there is in the entire State of Michigan on an annual basis. This doesn't even include the surrounding counts, the Austin area (Westlake and Lake Travis HSs) or the D/FW Metroplex.

Since the Advent of integration and scholarship limits Texas has woefully under preformed Michigan with the possible exception of the one great VY championship season.
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Texas also has a lot of competition for said talent. Specifically a lot of that Harris County talent you mentioned goes to A&M; it's closer in proximity.

There is no school on the planet with a more inflated view of itself than Michigan, both in terms of athletics and academics. It really isn't even close. Just go to Wikipedia and pull up their program's page. It's stunning to see what they've actually won over the years relative to their reputation, even if you are a really knowledgeable college football fan. It just "feels" like they have won a lot more than they have. The peak of their program was 1901-04...seriously. I'm not being facetious. They've had other good runs of play that culminated in titles, but the peak of their program was 120 years ago.

Michigan's most notable achievement as a program is that they started playing college football essentially before anybody else, therefore they have the most all-time wins and some notable iconography/pageantry (the helmet, the fight song, etc.). Their last outright national title was 70 years ago. Their greatest coach was Bo Schembechler, who Michigan fans will describe to you as being Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden, and Tom Osborne rolled into one. Schembechler never won a national title, went 2-8 in the Rose Bowl, and his most notable achievement was going 5-4-1 during the 10-year period in which he and Woody Hayes overlapped, even though Hayes was the far more accomplished coach overall. There is more mythmaking about Michigan than any other program, therefore that makes their fans the most obnoxious. Other fanbases have obnoxious fans - Ohio St, Alabama, etc., but at least they've won stuff.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Harbaugh is talented coach but also a miserable person. He’s so difficult to be around that the 49ers couldn’t wait to be rid of him after him taking them to the Super Bowl.
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It would be easier to consider him a talented coach if he ever beat his rivals. What is his Michigan team’s combined record against Ohio State, Michigan State, and Notre Dame. This performance is probably why he is a miserable person.
 
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BUBear said:
There's more HS talent in Harris County (Houston) than there is in the entire State of Michigan on an annual basis. This doesn't even include the surrounding counts, the Austin area (Westlake and Lake Travis HSs) or the D/FW Metroplex.

Since the advent of integration and scholarship limits Texas has woefully under preformed Michigan with the possible exception of the one great VY championship season.
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Texas shares the state with about a half dozen in-state P5 rivals, not to mention Oklahoma and LSU.
 
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Bellevue vol said:
It would be easier to consider him a talented coach if he ever beat his rivals. What is his Michigan team’s combined record against Ohio State, Michigan State, and Notre Dame. This performance is probably why he is a miserable person.
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Harbaugh's problem at Michigan is that he hasn't been able to beat his rivals at their own game so far.

Look at the places he had success - Stanford and the 49ers. At Stanford, he brought his physical, in-your-face, Big Ten brand of football into a conference that didn't play it and out-physicaled teams. With the 49ers, he helped usher the read option into the pro game and had a lot of success with that. At Michigan, he isn't doing something "different" than what others are doing, and his teams' execution just isn't as good as others.

What Harbaugh did at Stanford and San Francisco was very impressive - his performance at Michigan has been pretty underwhelming. The on the surface numbers look pretty good, 38-14 overall, 26-9 in conference play, but he's 0-4 against Ohio St, 1-3 in bowl games, 2-2 against Michigan St, and hasn't even won a division title. It his results in a relatively small number of big games that make him underwhelming.
 
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05_never_again said:
Texas also has a lot of competition for said talent. Specifically a lot of that Harris County talent you mentioned goes to A&M; it's closer in proximity.

There is no school on the planet with a more inflated view of itself than Michigan, both in terms of athletics and academics. It really isn't even close. Just go to Wikipedia and pull up their program's page. It's stunning to see what they've actually won over the years relative to their reputation, even if you are a really knowledgeable college football fan. It just "feels" like they have won a lot more than they have. The peak of their program was 1901-04...seriously. I'm not being facetious. They've had other good runs of play that culminated in titles, but the peak of their program was 120 years ago.

Michigan's most notable achievement as a program is that they started playing college football essentially before anybody else, therefore they have the most all-time wins and some notable iconography/pageantry (the helmet, the fight song, etc.). Their last outright national title was 70 years ago. Their greatest coach was Bo Schembechler, who Michigan fans will describe to you as being Bear Bryant, Bobby Bowden, and Tom Osborne rolled into one. Schembechler never won a national title, went 2-8 in the Rose Bowl, and his most notable achievement was going 5-4-1 during the 10-year period in which he and Woody Hayes overlapped, even though Hayes was the far more accomplished coach overall. There is more mythmaking about Michigan than any other program, therefore that makes their fans the most obnoxious. Other fanbases have obnoxious fans - Ohio St, Alabama, etc., but at least they've won stuff.
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Quality post right there.
 
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