'10 FL RB Ethan Grant

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oregon does not have the tradition that tennessee does by a long shot. but they are a unique team and adjusting to become a more modern and progressive team. oregon went 10-3 last year and finished in the top 15 without the "tradition" that tennessee has, let alone the recruits and recruiting location. oregon did this with recruits that are not near the level tennessee gets. oregon was the only school to offer jeremiah johnson as a rb, and the only school to offer jairus byrd and patrick chung. now that they've become a little more popular, their recruiting range has extended all over the nation, allowing them to offer guys that normally wouldnt even consider a west coast school. ethan grant would fit perfectly into their zone blocking scheme that blount, johnson, and stewart have flourished in the last few years. oregon marches to the beat of their own drum and adjusts to the game as its played now and doesnt dwell on tradition like the SEC. tradition definitely helps recruiting, but 10 wins or 5 wins? program on the rise or program who dishes out ridiculous $$ for their coaches in this economy and had 5 wins? leave all this uniform and tradition BS out of it, oregon develops their players and does more with less than many teams. now that they can get national recruits, the future is bright.

ethan grant hasnt even decommited yet, so until then you will be seeing him in a neon yellow helmet with flames on it in the future.

the SEC is a damn good conference with a different style than the pac-10, we need more games against each other.

good luck down the road when we play.
 
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jj34 said:
oregon does not have the tradition that tennessee does by a long shot. but they are a unique team and adjusting to become a more modern and progressive team. oregon went 10-3 last year and finished in the top 15 without the "tradition" that tennessee has, let alone the recruits and recruiting location. oregon did this with recruits that are not near the level tennessee gets. oregon was the only school to offer jeremiah johnson as a rb, and the only school to offer jairus byrd and patrick chung. now that they've become a little more popular, their recruiting range has extended all over the nation, allowing them to offer guys that normally wouldnt even consider a west coast school. ethan grant would fit perfectly into their zone blocking scheme that blount, johnson, and stewart have flourished in the last few years. oregon marches to the beat of their own drum and adjusts to the game as its played now and doesnt dwell on tradition like the SEC. tradition definitely helps recruiting, but 10 wins or 5 wins? program on the rise or program who dishes out ridiculous $$ for their coaches in this economy and had 5 wins? leave all this uniform and tradition BS out of it, oregon develops their players and does more with less than many teams. now that they can get national recruits, the future is bright.

ethan grant hasnt even decommited yet, so until then you will be seeing him in a neon yellow helmet with flames on it in the future.

the SEC is a damn good conference with a different style than the pac-10, we need more games against each other.

good luck down the road when we play.
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Very good point, but you can not use the excuse of developing players anymore. Now that fulmer is gone we should be able to develop the players the way this staff sees fit. I think both of our teams have a bright future. Taking nothing away from you guys but if you all competed in the SEC week in and week out you all would not have had 10 wins last year thats for sure. Maybe when dixon was their but not last year.

The pac 10 may win a game or two against the SEC but if they had to compete with the best of the best it would not be a competition.
 
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yeah the SEC is definitely deeper than the pac 10 is as of right now. recruiting locations play a factor in this, plus who really knows what the hell is going on between the two washington schools who traditonally, that word again, have done pretty well but are in transitional periods stemming from terrible personnel moves and bad coaching. those two schools wont be competing for a few years. otherwise, the rest of the pac-10 seems to be on the rise, but not at the level of the SEC yet, and it may not get there, but its good to see most of the conference getting better because it makes for better bowl matchups and more interesting regular season games. plus those two washington teams can only get better after a combined 2 wins between them, and one was wsu beating uw. im personally interested to see what the kiffins will do with tenn's offense with bb, and i really want to see monte's defense. your coaches have the pedigree to win, just maybe need to low on the twittering lol. good luck in the SEC, and were gonna try our best to get to the rose bowl in the near future.
 
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next wheaton is going to talk about oregon's strength of schedule the past 5 years compared to ours...then he is going to discuss the east coast bias in the ranking system...volnation will talk about ugly uniforms, phil knight, tradition and overall record...wheaton will post a novel in which he multi-quotes 30 people and say's that we were 5-7 last year...and so on repeating itself indefinitely. we've all been through this before, and this recruit is not exactly bryce brown, he is not good enough to warrant the frustration that wheaton and his cronies will put us through in order check his thread. wheaton you and the ducks are welcome here as long as you attempt to provide real information from a different perspective instead of trying to compare our teams and stir the pot on every post.
 
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gorockytop said:
Don't come crying to me when we kick you ___ in 2011 and 2012. :the_finger:
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I really am not worried about it. We have much more difficult opponents on those schedules to be concerned about.

1orangews6 said:
Any news on Grant?
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Nope. Still committed to Oregon.

gorockytop said:
Judging by the recent long post by wheaton....he hates Oregon.
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Judging by the recent posts by Grant's uncle, he loves Oregon.

Midfielder10 said:
You want to tell me how many conference titles Oregon has won in the Pac-10? Ever?
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They've won a few. However, the only titles relevant to Grant are the ones that he has a chance to win during his college career. And those appear to be far more likely to happen at Oregon than at UT.

wrgn said:
So how does Oregon plan on utilizing Bryce Brown this year?
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That depends on if Bryce Brown decides to transfer from UT to Oregon. Wouldn't surprise me at this point.

ctvolfan2007 said:
Very good point, but you can not use the excuse of developing players anymore. Now that fulmer is gone we should be able to develop the players the way this staff sees fit. I think both of our teams have a bright future. Taking nothing away from you guys but if you all competed in the SEC week in and week out you all would not have had 10 wins last year thats for sure. Maybe when dixon was their but not last year.

The pac 10 may win a game or two against the SEC but if they had to compete with the best of the best it would not be a competition.
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I appreciate your well-reasoned post. However, your assertion that Oregon wouldn't have as good a record if they were in the SEC does not stand up to scrutiny. While it is true that the SEC is stronger as a conference over-all than the Pac-10, the Pac-10 makes up for it by scheduling a more difficult OOC schedule.

Average strength of schedules per conference in 2008:

Pac-10: 74.691
SEC: 74.475

USATODAY.com

As you can see, Pac-10 teams, on average, played slightly more difficult schedules over-all than did SEC teams.

voltilifall said:
next wheaton is going to talk about oregon's strength of schedule the past 5 years compared to ours...then he is going to discuss the east coast bias in the ranking system...volnation will talk about ugly uniforms, phil knight, tradition and overall record...wheaton will post a novel in which he multi-quotes 30 people and say's that we were 5-7 last year...and so on repeating itself indefinitely. we've all been through this before, and this recruit is not exactly bryce brown, he is not good enough to warrant the frustration that wheaton and his cronies will put us through in order check his thread. wheaton you and the ducks are welcome here as long as you attempt to provide real information from a different perspective instead of trying to compare our teams and stir the pot on every post.
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I have provided real information from a different perspective. It is others here who have brought up team comparisons. I've only responded to them.

And if you already know what is going to happen and it upsets you, you are welcome to not read it.
 
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I heard this guy is going to disregard his scholarship to Oregon in order to walk-on at UT.
 
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#86
wheaton4prez said:
I really am not worried about it. We have much more difficult opponents on those schedules to be concerned about.



Nope. Still committed to Oregon.



Judging by the recent posts by Grant's uncle, he loves Oregon.



They've won a few. However, the only titles relevant to Grant are the ones that he has a chance to win during his college career. And those appear to be far more likely to happen at Oregon than at UT.



That depends on if Bryce Brown decides to transfer from UT to Oregon. Wouldn't surprise me at this point.



I appreciate your well-reasoned post. However, your assertion that Oregon wouldn't have as good a record if they were in the SEC does not stand up to scrutiny. While it is true that the SEC is stronger as a conference over-all than the Pac-10, the Pac-10 makes up for it by scheduling a more difficult OOC schedule.

Average strength of schedules per conference in 2008:

Pac-10: 74.691
SEC: 74.475

USATODAY.com

As you can see, Pac-10 teams, on average, played slightly more difficult schedules over-all than did SEC teams.



I have provided real information from a different perspective. It is others here who have brought up team comparisons. I've only responded to them.

And if you already know what is going to happen and it upsets you, you are welcome to not read it.
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Wheaton, please don't start this mutiple post/response crap again... It's one of the main reasons people find you annoying. By the way, your little factoid about strength of schedule is hilarious. Oregon would have a worse record in the SEC. Your kidding yourself if you believe otherwise...
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I really am not worried about it. We have much more difficult opponents on those schedules to be concerned about.
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You might wanna re-think that. You better start think about what players will be on the Vols roster in those 2 years. UT is gonna be absolutely LOADED by then. The UT players you seen this past year will not be the ones on the field in 2011 and 2012. That will be Bryce, Oku, Toney Williams, Poole, either Scroggins or Brunetti, Nuke, Teague, Green, Askew, Bruce Irvin, Lathers, Donald, King, Nelson, Mitchell-Thornton, Myles, Janzen, Waggner, Raines, Wilkes, Flemming, Evans, Gordon, Edwards, Oliver, a VERY experienced o-line, Hughes, Walls, John Brown, Harris, Jacques, Copeland, Broussard, Sykes, Fowlkes, Bohannon . Those are some big time players for 3 years from now. The rebuilding will be over by 2011...

I fully expect UT to be right at the top of the SEC by then and have their eyes set on another Sears trophy. Oregon will have their eyes set on... meh... finishing 2nd in the Pac 10. That's the best they can do...

As you can see, Pac-10 teams, on average, played slightly more difficult schedules over-all than did SEC teams.
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5 BCS National Championship>>>>>>>>1 BCS and 1 AP National Championship... Nuff said...
 
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Lord Vader said:
You might wanna re-think that. You better start think about what players will be on the Vols roster in those 2 years. UT is gonna be absolutely LOADED by then. The UT players you seen this past year will not be the ones on the field in 2011 and 2012. That will be Bryce, Oku, Toney Williams, Poole, either Scroggins or Brunetti, Nuke, Teague, Green, Askew, Bruce Irvin, Lathers, Donald, King, Nelson, Mitchell-Thornton, Myles, Janzen, Waggner, Raines, Wilkes, Flemming, Evans, Gordon, Edwards, Oliver, a VERY experienced o-line, Hughes, Walls, John Brown, Harris, Jacques, Copeland, Broussard, Sykes, Fowlkes, Bohannon . Those are some big time players for 3 years from now. The rebuilding will be over by 2011...

I fully expect UT to be right at the top of the SEC by then and have their eyes set on another Sears trophy. Oregon will have their eyes set on... meh... finishing 2nd in the Pac 10. That's the best they can do...



5 BCS National Championship>>>>>>>>1 BCS and 1 AP National Championship... Nuff said...
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You tell him Vader!!!!!! This stupid Oregon fan thinks his team will have tougher competition then Tennessee in 2011 and 2012. Let me go ahead and say Oregons only competition in 2011 and 2012 will be Tennessee and USC.
 
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m1al said:
By the way, your little factoid about strength of schedule is hilarious. Oregon would have a worse record in the SEC. Your kidding yourself if you believe otherwise...
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What is hilarious is that you have nothing but your insistence to back up your claim.

Do you see anything wrong with Ted Miller's facts in supporting the belief that Oregon could have been the #2 team in the SEC last year?

Post-vacation mailbag: Oregon finishes second in SEC - Pac-10 - ESPN

Lord Vader said:
You might wanna re-think that. You better start think about what players will be on the Vols roster in those 2 years. UT is gonna be absolutely LOADED by then. The UT players you seen this past year will not be the ones on the field in 2011 and 2012. That will be Bryce, Oku, Toney Williams, Poole, either Scroggins or Brunetti, Nuke, Teague, Green, Askew, Bruce Irvin, Lathers, Donald, King, Nelson, Mitchell-Thornton, Myles, Janzen, Waggner, Raines, Wilkes, Flemming, Evans, Gordon, Edwards, Oliver, a VERY experienced o-line, Hughes, Walls, John Brown, Harris, Jacques, Copeland, Broussard, Sykes, Fowlkes, Bohannon . Those are some big time players for 3 years from now. The rebuilding will be over by 2011...

I fully expect UT to be right at the top of the SEC by then and have their eyes set on another Sears trophy. Oregon will have their eyes set on... meh... finishing 2nd in the Pac 10. That's the best they can do...
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I think that Stanford will be more of a challenge that year than UT will be. And I think it's overly optimistic to believe that UT will be finished transitioning to competitive form by then. I think they'll get there eventually. But, I'm doubtful that it will happen under Kiffin. 50/50 whether Bryce Brown will even still be there by then.

gorockytop said:
You tell him Vader!!!!!! This stupid Oregon fan thinks his team will have tougher competition then Tennessee in 2011 and 2012. Let me go ahead and say Oregons only competition in 2011 and 2012 will be Tennessee and USC.
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Now that you went ahead and said it, I guess I have my doubts. :eek:k:
 
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wheaton4prez said:
What is hilarious is that you have nothing but your insistence to back up your claim.

Do you see anything wrong with Ted Miller's facts in supporting the belief that Oregon could have been the #2 team in the SEC last year?

Post-vacation mailbag: Oregon finishes second in SEC - Pac-10 - ESPN
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So let me take a shot at using Mr. Miller's "transitive logic"

Wyoming beat Tennessee by 6 points
UCLA beat Tennessee by 3 points

Wyoming's conference record (1-7)
UCLA's conference record (3-6)

Using the laws of common opponents and conference records, I've determined that the MWC is much stronger than the Pac-10...



Sometimes it's just better to use common sense...
 
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lol. You mean, sometimes its better just to be a homer?

Transitive logic isn't perfect. But, it's better evidence than having none at all.
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I think that Stanford will be more of a challenge that year than UT will be. And I think it's overly optimistic to believe that UT will be finished transitioning to competitive form by then. I think they'll get there eventually. But, I'm doubtful that it will happen under Kiffin. 50/50 whether Bryce Brown will even still be there by then.
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You are talking like UT hasn't been competitive in years or something. We won a bowl game in '07-'08 and we gave the eventual National Champions, LSU all they wanted in the SEC championship game...

I'm just gonna assume you are joking with everything in this paragraph. It's so ridiculous I don't even know how to respond to half of it...

And there's no need to be bitter about Bryce, the best team got him. Chill...
 
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wheaton4prez said:
I think that Stanford will be more of a challenge that year than UT will be. And I think it's overly optimistic to believe that UT will be finished transitioning to competitive form by then. I think they'll get there eventually. But, I'm doubtful that it will happen under Kiffin. 50/50 whether Bryce Brown will even still be there by then.
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Lol now he thinks Stanford is better.:eek:lol:

About the whole Bryce Brown thing, we still have Toney Willams and David Oku.

I'm starting to think we should have a thread dedicated to how big of a idiot wheaton is.
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