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#26
#26
Stars mean nothing guys!How many players have you seen come out of high school as a 5* and do absolutely nothing.The * system is overrated.Just because a guy is a 3* doesn't mean he is not good.It's all about transition.3* players end up all americans as well.
 
#30
#30
VolsFan01 said:
Stars mean nothing guys!How many players have you seen come out of high school as a 5* and do absolutely nothing.The * system is overrated.Just because a guy is a 3* doesn't mean he is not good.It's all about transition.3* players end up all americans as well.
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Really? Go to www.draftcountdown.com and check out the top ten overall prospects. I looked the other day and I think something like 7 or 8 of the top 10 players were in the rivals 100 coming out of high school, including the top three prospects in the draft (Suh, McCoy, and Berry). Certainly there are 3 star players who prove everyone wrong (like the Okung kid from Oklahoma State), but the guys from rivals do a pretty good job on evaluating talent. I don't dispute, thounh, that there are plenty of 3 star guys who make good college players, but can't cut it in the NFL.
 
#33
#33
evillawyer said:
Really? Go to Draft Countdown.com and check out the top ten overall prospects. I looked the other day and I think something like 7 or 8 of the top 10 players were in the rivals 100 coming out of high school, including the top three prospects in the draft (Suh, McCoy, and Berry). Certainly there are 3 star players who prove everyone wrong (like the Okung kid from Oklahoma State), but the guys from rivals do a pretty good job on evaluating talent. I don't dispute, thounh, that there are plenty of 3 star guys who make good college players, but can't cut it in the NFL.
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Yeah! A good example is a 2* RB like Chris Johnson. He's not very good. 2,006 yds rushing, 14tds, 125yds/game, 500yds receiving. If he was a 5* athlete then he might have made the pro bowl; not gettin it done in the NFL

:hi:
 
#34
#34
evillawyer said:
Really? Go to Draft Countdown.com and check out the top ten overall prospects. I looked the other day and I think something like 7 or 8 of the top 10 players were in the rivals 100 coming out of high school, including the top three prospects in the draft (Suh, McCoy, and Berry). Certainly there are 3 star players who prove everyone wrong (like the Okung kid from Oklahoma State), but the guys from rivals do a pretty good job on evaluating talent. I don't dispute, thounh, that there are plenty of 3 star guys who make good college players, but can't cut it in the NFL.
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We don't need draft picks. We need guys that can contribute and help the team win. Who cares if they can play at the next level, thats just a bonus.
 
#35
#35
bluetickvol said:
Yeah! A good example is a 2* RB like Chris Johnson. He's not very good. 2,006 yds rushing, 14tds, 125yds/game, 500yds receiving. If he was a 5* athlete then he might have made the pro bowl; not gettin it done in the NFL

:hi:
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I get so sick of people always quoting the exception to the rule as some kind of determining factor on the importance of star rankings.

Some of you act like the system is supposed to be perfect.

Fact: There are waaay more 3 star and 2 star players than 4 and 5. There will ALWAYS be a guy like Chris Johnson or Colt McCoy that becomes successful despite low expectations.

Fact: 16% of 5 star players are drafted in the first round of the NFL draft.

Fact: .07% of 3 stars are.

Fiction: Your "Chris Johnson" argument holds water.
 
#36
#36
Sabanocchio said:
I get so sick of people always quoting the exception to the rule as some kind of determining factor on the importance of star rankings.
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Agreed. If you're going to rely on a Chris Johnson rule then you better be happy having the talent of an East Carolina roster at UT.
 
#37
#37
Sabanocchio said:
I get so sick of people always quoting the exception to the rule as some kind of determining factor on the importance of star rankings.

Some of you act like the system is supposed to be perfect.

Fact: There are waaay more 3 star and 2 star players than 4 and 5. There will ALWAYS be a guy like Chris Johnson or Colt McCoy that becomes successful despite low expectations.

Fact: 16% of 5 star players are drafted in the first round of the NFL draft.

Fact: .07% of 3 stars are.

Fiction: Your "Chris Johnson" argument holds water.
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thx for the numbers.

More to the point, what about the % of 3-5 stars that end up being all-sec?
 
#38
#38
Sabanocchio said:
I get so sick of people always quoting the exception to the rule as some kind of determining factor on the importance of star rankings.

Some of you act like the system is supposed to be perfect.

Fact: There are waaay more 3 star and 2 star players than 4 and 5. There will ALWAYS be a guy like Chris Johnson or Colt McCoy that becomes successful despite low expectations.

Fact: 16% of 5 star players are drafted in the first round of the NFL draft.

Fact: .07% of 3 stars are.

Fiction: Your "Chris Johnson" argument holds water.
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Sorry, Sabanocchio, I was jus looking for a chance to be a little sarcastic! The fact is, there are exceptions to the rules! No one knows for sure what an athlete will do in college. I was just pointing out that there is no need to get upset over rankings. They are not that big a deal. I know kids in Tennessee that are as good/better than the Jackson kid that committed, but they are not even ranked. anyways, sorry to make you mad. I'll try better next time:eek:k::good!:
 
#41
#41
sabanocchio said:
i get so sick of people always quoting the exception to the rule as some kind of determining factor on the importance of star rankings.

Some of you act like the system is supposed to be perfect.

Fact: There are waaay more 3 star and 2 star players than 4 and 5. There will always be a guy like chris johnson or colt mccoy that becomes successful despite low expectations.

Fact: 16% of 5 star players are drafted in the first round of the nfl draft.

Fact: .07% of 3 stars are.

Fiction: Your "chris johnson" argument holds water.
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this!!!
 
#42
#42
Sabanocchio said:
I get so sick of people always quoting the exception to the rule as some kind of determining factor on the importance of star rankings.

Some of you act like the system is supposed to be perfect.

Fact: There are waaay more 3 star and 2 star players than 4 and 5. There will ALWAYS be a guy like Chris Johnson or Colt McCoy that becomes successful despite low expectations.

Fact: 16% of 5 star players are drafted in the first round of the NFL draft.

Fact: .07% of 3 stars are.

Fiction: Your "Chris Johnson" argument holds water.
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Can we sticky this?
 
#43
#43
tis true! i did research on this in some other thread. the higher the star ranking, the better chance of getting drafted in the first round
 
#44
#44
bluetickvol said:
Sorry, Sabanocchio, I was jus looking for a chance to be a little sarcastic! The fact is, there are exceptions to the rules! No one knows for sure what an athlete will do in college. I was just pointing out that there is no need to get upset over rankings. They are not that big a deal. I know kids in Tennessee that are as good/better than the Jackson kid that committed, but they are not even ranked. anyways, sorry to make you mad. I'll try better next time:eek:k::good!:
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Maybe I came off kind of rude, but I wasn't mad. Just making a statement post. No need to apologize at all.
 
#45
#45
Sabanocchio said:
Maybe I came off kind of rude, but I wasn't mad. Just making a statement post. No need to apologize at all.
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Wasn't CJ injured his sr. Year of HS and that is what dropped his star level. Who cares anyway. Coach 'em up.
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#47
#47
For the statement of the star system to actually either be deemed useless or valid, the ratio of 4 star and 5 star athletes to 3 star athletes needs to be known. if there are only 25 5 stars per year and 1,050 3 stars this places more actual 3 stars into the NFl. It's the law of propertions. easier to bat 500 with 2 swings than to bat 500 with 1,000 swings. Vegas is based upon this formula. I am not agreeing or disagree, just saying the amount of 3 stars per year and the amount fo 5 stars each year to enroll in college would be nice. Also, if only 16.7% of players who are drafted in the 1st round our either 3 or 5 stars, where are the other 83.3% coming from?
 
#48
#48
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
For the statement of the star system to actually either be deemed useless or valid, the ratio of 4 star and 5 star athletes to 3 star athletes needs to be known. if there are only 25 5 stars per year and 1,050 3 stars this places more actual 3 stars into the NFl. It's the law of propertions. easier to bat 500 with 2 swings than to bat 500 with 1,000 swings. Vegas is based upon this formula. I am not agreeing or disagree, just saying the amount of 3 stars per year and the amount fo 5 stars each year to enroll in college would be nice. Also, if only 16.7% of players who are drafted in the 1st round our either 3 or 5 stars, where are the other 83.3% coming from?
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logic has no business on an internet forum. takes this crap elsewhere.
 
#49
#49
does anyone know the word on the rivera kid that was on a visit this weekend . I saw an article on volquest and I don't have access to it and was wondering if anyone does and if they could tell me about it.
 
#50
#50
orangeclad21 said:
does anyone know the word on the rivera kid that was on a visit this weekend . I saw an article on volquest and I don't have access to it and was wondering if anyone does and if they could tell me about it.
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Basically he said he enjoyed his visit, was impressed with the facities and the coaches. Wants to talk to his family before he makes any decision. Go check out is recruiting thread, you'll probably find more info on there.
 
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