10 year show cause/NCAA, Tyndall discussion (merged)

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Don't you viewers think it's hilarious that in defending a former coach who proved beyond any shadow of a doubt in his appeal hearing that he knew nothing of the academic fraud at Southern Miss I am tarred and feathered by the mob?
The NCAA 14 weeks later has not responded to the Tyndall appeal because they have no response and if they do respond without dropping every charge against him, they are gonna end up in federal court in addition to the "60 Minutes" story that is set to run as soon as they do.
Don Jackson, Coach T's attorney, recently tweeted this, "Notre Dame & Cal State-Northridge. Academic fraud, 28 athletes. No sanction for Head Coaches. Tyndall got the death penalty. Difference?" To use the old phrase, DT has the NCAA by the ba--s!
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Don't you viewers think it's hilarious that in defending a former coach who proved beyond any shadow of a doubt in his appeal hearing that he knew nothing of the academic fraud at Southern Miss I am tarred and feathered by the mob?
The NCAA 14 weeks later has not responded to the Tyndall appeal because they have no response and if they do respond without dropping every charge against him, they are gonna end up in federal court in addition to the "60 Minutes" story that is set to run as soon as they do.
Don Jackson, Coach T's attorney, recently tweeted this, "Notre Dame & Cal State-Northridge. Academic fraud, 28 athletes. No sanction for Head Coaches. Tyndall got the death penalty. Difference?" To use the old phrase, DT has the NCAA by the ba--s!
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In the ND case, it was student on student cheating.

The crux of Notre Dame’s argument is that the athletic trainer was a student who just “happened to participate in the university’s student trainer program” at the time of the misconduct, not an employee who was trusted with the athletes’ academic or athletic success.
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https://www.insidehighered.com/news...peals-ncaa-sanctions-over-academic-misconduct

In other words it wasn't the HC or his/her assistants doing the cheating, she wasn't even an employee.


In the CSNU case...

When asked about the differences in the two cases, NCAA Committee on Infractions member Carol Cartwright responded: "Let's be clear first of all that we're here to discuss this individual case. As you'll note in our report, the idea of head coach responsibility was explored. It was raised in the hearing and some additional interviews were accomplished. The head coach needs to be able to rebut the presumption that he was responsible. In this case, it was determined that he successfully rebutted that presumption and the panel accepted that."

Cartwright noted that Theus passed a series of tests in order to rebut that presumption of guilt.
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In similar NCAA case to Syracuse, Cal State-Northridge coach not responsible for academic misconduct | syracuse.com
 
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Now its in the NCAA Forums (fitting for the NCAA cheat) again no 60 Minutes show about the Turtle -- hopefully he is content up in Canada and its his calling
 
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vol66 said:
In the ND case, it was student on student cheating.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news...peals-ncaa-sanctions-over-academic-misconduct
In other words it wasn't the HC or his/her assistants doing the cheating, she wasn't even an employee.
In the CSNU case...
In similar NCAA case to Syracuse, Cal State-Northridge coach not responsible for academic misconduct | syracuse.com
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And in Coach T's case, he passed a lie detector test by a renowned company which the infractions committee refused to consider. He also was not allowed to cross-examine the 1 witness out of 40 that they bribed with immunity to say he did it when that witness was the ringleader of the entire Academic Fraud, Inc. that went on at Southern Miss after Tyndall left and was carried out on a nationwide basis according to the metadata. You have no facts in the case, buddy!

With regard to this statement, "When asked about the differences in the two cases, NCAA Committee on Infractions member Carol Cartwright responded: "Let's be clear first of all that we're here to discuss this individual case. As you'll note in our report, the idea of head coach responsibility was explored. It was raised in the hearing and some additional interviews were accomplished. The head coach needs to be able to rebut the presumption that he was responsible. In this case, it was determined that he successfully rebutted that presumption and the panel accepted that."

Cartwright noted that Theus passed a series of tests in order to rebut that presumption of guilt.

#1 The person is not referring to the Tyndall case as you make it appear. #2 Donnie Tyndall rebutted that presumption of guilt with a lie detector test that the infractions committee would not review, 40 out of 41 directly and indirectly involved witnesses, and over 4000 page of documentation none of which pointed to him as knowing anything whatsoever about the academic fraud. This is exactly why the appeals committee can't respond. They have zero evidence other than Adam Howard!!
 
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#2,909
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Lol Tyndall Boy couldn't handle his precious thread had been ignored and moved to the second page so he had to come save it.

Get used to that happening.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
And in Coach T's case, he passed a lie detector test by a renowned company which the infractions committee refused to consider. He also was not allowed to cross-examine the 1 witness out of 40 that they bribed with immunity to say he did it when that witness was the ringleader of the entire Academic Fraud, Inc. that went on at Southern Miss after Tyndall left and was carried out on a nationwide basis according to the metadata. You have no facts in the case, buddy!

With regard to this statement, "When asked about the differences in the two cases, NCAA Committee on Infractions member Carol Cartwright responded: "Let's be clear first of all that we're here to discuss this individual case. As you'll note in our report, the idea of head coach responsibility was explored. It was raised in the hearing and some additional interviews were accomplished. The head coach needs to be able to rebut the presumption that he was responsible. In this case, it was determined that he successfully rebutted that presumption and the panel accepted that."

Cartwright noted that Theus passed a series of tests in order to rebut that presumption of guilt.

#1 The person is not referring to the Tyndall case as you make it appear. #2 Donnie Tyndall rebutted that presumption of guilt with a lie detector test that the infractions committee would not review, 40 out of 41 directly and indirectly involved witnesses, and over 4000 page of documentation none of which pointed to him as knowing anything whatsoever about the academic fraud. This is exactly why the appeals committee can't respond. They have zero evidence other than Adam Howard!!
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The only point I'm trying to make is that Mr. Jackson keeps bringing up cases that aren't really even in the same ball park as what went on at USM under Tyndall's watch.

The Notre Dame case is an especially ridiculous comparison and of course adding up the number of student athletes from 2 separate schools/cases is also misleading but...

The only thing keeping this in the public eye is Mr. Jackson's occasional tweets. Nobody cares but the two of you.
 
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vol66 said:
The only point I'm trying to make is that Mr. Jackson keeps bringing up cases that aren't really even in the same ball park as what went on at USM under Tyndall's watch.

The Notre Dame case is an especially ridiculous comparison and of course adding up the number of student athletes from 2 separate schools/cases is also misleading but...

The only thing keeping this in the public eye is Mr. Jackson's occasional tweets. Nobody cares but the two of you.
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Bingo. And quoting Jackson isn't proof by any means.
 
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As demonstrated in Donnie Tyndall’s written appeal and his rebuttal to the response of the Panel, the factual findings are clearly contrary to the information presented, the facts found by the panel do not constitute a violation, and the Panel committed procedural errors and but for those error, the Committee on Infractions would not have made such findings. Thus, the factual findings of the Committee should be reversed. Further the Committee on Infractions abused its discretion through the imposition of excessive and unprecedented penalties against Tyndall, and these penalties are due to be set aside.
The closing statement: "This case is (in effect) a ‘coach control” case that morphed into the most severe penalty that has ever been imposed against a collegiate head
coach in any sport. Neither the evidence, NCAA nor federal legislation support this conclusion."
All charges to be dropped.
 
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Well gosh dang, if Tyndall wrote that in his appeal, then gosh dangit it must be true and let's just cancel this thing.

I mean I've never heard of a case of a guy found guilty of something proclaiming he's actually 100% innocent.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
As demonstrated in Donnie Tyndall’s written appeal and his rebuttal to the response of the Panel, the factual findings are clearly contrary to the information presented, the facts found by the panel do not constitute a violation, and the Panel committed procedural errors and but for those error, the Committee on Infractions would not have made such findings. Thus, the factual findings of the Committee should be reversed. Further the Committee on Infractions abused its discretion through the imposition of excessive and unprecedented penalties against Tyndall, and these penalties are due to be set aside.
The closing statement: "This case is (in effect) a ‘coach control” case that morphed into the most severe penalty that has ever been imposed against a collegiate head
coach in any sport. Neither the evidence, NCAA nor federal legislation support this conclusion."
All charges to be dropped.
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Provide the link to this drivel you keep "quoting". Can you ever do that?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Moving this thread from the BB forum to the Around the NCAA forum was like giving BuzzDrill Viagra. His ***** for Donnie Butterbean is rock hard.
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Nah. It had drifted to the 2nd page pretty easily, and only came back when he realized it from another thread and came in to bump it.

That will repeat itself. He'll post some silly non-update where repeats the same crap he's already said about 50 times, people will make fun of him, get tired of it, the thread will drift the second page, and he'll bump it again, and so on and so on and so on.
 
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