'11 FL ATH Torrey Campbell

[lilesrt]

Great news Jay. Would be a solid pickup.

Do you guys even know what yall are talking about? Or do you want us to get commitments just for the sake of getting commitments? Look at his other offers! There is a reason we are in his top 2 and the kid has never even been on campus! It is too early to take a commitment from this guy. If we were Duke, Wisconsin, Louisville, maybe.. But need I remind you that we are in the SEC. If we are going after just commitments for the heck of it get James Bryant quick! I want an interview bc I am committing right now to UT as an Athlete. They can play me wherever. Just call me a "diamond in the rough" type of player. Unbelievable.
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[Eberry]

I played football with this kid. Or still do i should say, sorry to burst yalls bubble but hes not that good. He played on defense also, and he would get burned by my good friend Kyle who played slot reciever. He has a few good plays, but hes not as good as he seems. But this is coming from someone who has played with him before.

 

[sjt18]

Call me crazy but I am not exactly thrilled about this guy. It is early in the recruiting season. We are his only SEC offer. Why are we offering kids that MSU, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky should be
offering.

You're crazy. If the kid posted a 4.41 at one of those combines then it was probably laser timed. A legit 4.4 sprinter in HS isn't as common as the Player Profiles would lead you to believe. This kid can smoke.

It's quite simple. Dooley does not have much faith that we can attract higher caliber talent.

Wait. It is just that simple? You are saying it could not possibly be because Dooley and his staff (who have been around the block a time or two) think this kid HAS high caliber talent?

This kid reminds me some of Teague. Teague was a 3* until UF and a few others "discovered" him. If this kid has those measureables for real and attends camps this summer... he'll probably end up rated higher.

I understand that UT is down right now, but we have the resources, history, and tradition to turn our lack of talent into a recruiting advantage. It is not like we are trying to sell these kids on Louisville's facilities. We are Tennessee! IMO, We may end up with a few 4 star players in the end, but I am affraid the majority of this years class is going to consist of 3 star players who are not going to contribute early.

Which Freshmen contributed over the past couple of years? IIRC, Bohannon, King, Hughes, Johnson, and Rogers all made contributions as Freshmen. Several more did or will as RS Fr.

And about the "stars", I understand that there are always exceptions to the rule but four and five star players are clearly the better players and there is a reason that most of the premere colleges are offering them.

You can't call it a rule when it is neither claimed nor represents the "rule" of things.

Generally speaking, guys who get 4* and 5* are elite talents. That is true. But it is not mutually exclusive with the fact that many 3* players are elite talents that didn't get as much notice.

Talent is talent whether the recruiting svcs see it or not.

Remember what Ed Orgeron said? When you sign a player you have him for 4-5 years. If he is not good enough to compete at the University of Tennessee, he is not getting an offer. I am not a fan of Eddy "O" but that is one thing I certainly agree with.
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That from a guy who built a very good talent base at Ole Miss precisely by finding 2* and 3* guys with elite talent that the recruiting svcs missed. IIRC, O only signed one top 25 class (15) at Ole Miss but left enough talent to beat UF.

I don't know if DD and staff have that kind of eye for talent or not. I do know that it can be done.

 

[UTBuff37]

Do you guys even know what yall are talking about? Or do you want us to get commitments just for the sake of getting commitments? Look at his other offers! There is a reason we are in his top 2 and the kid has never even been on campus! It is too early to take a commitment from this guy. If we were Duke, Wisconsin, Louisville, maybe.. But need I remind you that we are in the SEC. If we are going after just commitments for the heck of it get James Bryant quick! I want an interview bc I am committing right now to UT as an Athlete. They can play me wherever. Just call me a "diamond in the rough" type of player. Unbelievable.
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Gimmee a break bro. Yes his offer list isn't "great" but it sure as hell isn't bad. He would be another committ who will play CB at 5'11/6ft 200 lbs and runs a legit 4.4 in one of the most talent rich states in the nation With a solid offer list. That's a solid pick up. Get over it bro.

 

[lilesrt]

SJT, answer me one question. Overall, do you think that this staff is going after lower Tier players? Simple yes or no will suffice.
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[UTBuff37]

You're crazy. If the kid posted a 4.41 at one of those combines then it was probably laser timed. A legit 4.4 sprinter in HS isn't as common as the Player Profiles would lead you to believe. This kid can smoke. Wait. It is just that simple? You are saying it could not possibly be because Dooley and his staff (who have been around the block a time or two) think this kid HAS high caliber talent?

This kid reminds me some of Teague. Teague was a 3* until UF and a few others "discovered" him. If this kid has those measureables for real and attends camps this summer... he'll probably end up rated higher.
Which Freshmen contributed over the past couple of years? IIRC, Bohannon, King, Hughes, Johnson, and Rogers all made contributions as Freshmen. Several more did or will as RS Fr.

You can't call it a rule when it is neither claimed nor represents the "rule" of things.

Generally speaking, guys who get 4* and 5* are elite talents. That is true. But it is not mutually exclusive with the fact that many 3* players are elite talents that didn't get as much notice.

Talent is talent whether the recruiting svcs see it or not.



That from a guy who built a very good talent base at Ole Miss precisely by finding 2* and 3* guys with elite talent that the recruiting svcs missed. IIRC, O only signed one top 25 class (15) at Ole Miss but left enough talent to beat UF.

I don't know if DD and staff have that kind of eye for talent or not. I do know that it can be done.

Boom!! Thank you!

 

[lilesrt]

Lol. Anything to make you guys feel better about our recruiting situation.
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[lylsmorr]

I'll take this kid just for Special Teams

 

[Eberry]

I'm tellin you guys... He'll be a college bust. Trust me, hes not even worth special teams. Hes gonna be a waste of a scholarship

 

[lilesrt]

But he runs a 4.4 40. And he is from Florida. Sign him up! He's got to be good right?
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[miamicane]

man that bad huh fam

i never even heard of him down here in south florida

 

[Indianavol4eva]

maybe lilesrt is right.

 

[I4Jay]

cant win here.
If we dont get quality kids from Florida, people cry.
When we have a bunch of DBs who cant crack 4.6, people complain.

when we are in an Athlete's top 2 who happens to be extremely fast and from the premiere state in HS Football and a 3* on scout people still complain.

Mom always said you can't please everyone.

 

[VOLFANINMAITLNDFL]

And it is only June.

 

[sjt18]

Lol. Anything to make you guys feel better about our recruiting situation.
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Just be consistent.

You can't reference O in one breath then condemn the use of the staff's own evaluations in the next.

"Feel"? I can assure you that I don't "feel" anything right now. I'm just waiting to see and poking holes in the declarations of those who think they know what's going to happen.

This kid may be like Michael Taylor and Teague or he may be a complete dud. But it is extremely doubtful UT's staff is taking him because they don't think they can land better players. They will live and die on their evaluations... but this staff seems to put weight almost exclusively in what they think about a recruit. They aren't chasing other programs around and they aren't reading the recruiting svcs for their opinions.

 

[RustyBas]

Who was the player a week or so ago that said Alabama was waiting to offer them till they evaluated them but the found out Dooley and Tennessee already had done both and went ahead on offered based on dooley's eval? i will look for it.


Rusty

 

[lilesrt]

Just be consistent.

You can't reference O in one breath then condemn the use of the staff's own evaluations in the next.

"Feel"? I can assure you that I don't "feel" anything right now. I'm just waiting to see and poking holes in the declarations of those who think they know what's going to happen.

This kid may be like Michael Taylor and Teague or he may be a complete dud. But it is extremely doubtful UT's staff is taking him because they don't think they can land better players. They will live and die on their evaluations... but this staff seems to put weight almost exclusively in what they think about a recruit. They aren't chasing other programs around and they aren't reading the recruiting svcs for their opinions.

There is only one problem with what you just said. Coach O is not on THIS staff. Coach O went after top notch talent over and over and over again. When those prospects turned UT down, he still went after them. He surely did not take a middle of the road prospect, at best, first thing off the bat. He left them as fall back options. Precisely what I feel THIS staff needs to do.

 

[sjt18]

There is only one problem with what you just said. Coach O is not on THIS staff

You do realize that he's not the only coach in America that sees talent, don't you?

Coach O went after top notch talent over and over and over again.

And you know what? Most of the time it turned out to be a massive waste of time. UT finished 2nd or 3rd ALOT last year. And what did he do as a HC? How much "top talent" as in "highly rated" did O get as a HC?

When those prospects turned UT down, he still went after them. He surely did not take a middle of the road prospect, at best, first thing off the bat.

Yes to the extent that he wasted time on pipe dream recruits.

He left them as fall back options. Precisely what I feel THIS staff needs to do.

For good or bad, the last staff pursued a bunch of guys when they weren't highly rated at the time also- Taylor, Jose, et al. You have selective memory.

Those guys make a pretty good case study on the last staff. They clearly whiffed on Jose. They practically begged for Taylor to get another star.... then Taylor turned on them.

This staff needs to build a base of talented football players... period. They don't have to subscribe to Rivals and Scout to figure out how to do that.

You act as if the recruiting svc ratings in June before these kids play their SR year is the final word on whether these guys can play or not.

 

[KnoxVegas]

cant win here.
If we dont get quality kids from Florida, people cry.
When we have a bunch of DBs who cant crack 4.6, people complain.

when we are in an Athlete's top 2 who happens to be extremely fast and from the premiere state in HS Football and a 3* on scout people still complain.

Mom always said you can't please everyone.

:salute:

There is only one problem with what you just said. Coach O is not on THIS staff. Coach O went after top notch talent over and over and over again. When those prospects turned UT down, he still went after them. He surely did not take a middle of the road prospect, at best, first thing off the bat. He left them as fall back options. Precisely what I feel THIS staff needs to do.

Sorry to be harsh...but from your posts tonight you seem to know about recruiting and talent only from what rivals tells you...you say Coach O went after talent, example...M. Taylor wasn't talent to most of this board until rivals and his performance at the UA game said he was...K. Kerbyson was a backup plan at the start of the this years recruiting process until recently...

what exactly would make you and some fans around here happy?

Again, sorry to be harsh but this is getting ridic...

 

[lilesrt]

:salute:



Sorry to be harsh...but from your posts tonight you seem to know about recruiting and talent only from what rivals tells you...you say Coach O went after talent, example...M. Taylor wasn't talent to most of this board until rivals and his performance at the UA game said he was...K. Kerbyson was a backup plan at the start of the this years recruiting process until recently...

what exactly would make you and some fans around here happy?

Again, sorry to be harsh but this is getting ridic...

This may sound crazy but I actually like Derek Dooley and given time I think he will be successful. I have always held that stance. The only thing I disagree with is taking players who are not Tennessee caliber prospects just for the sake of "getting commitments". I thought Dooley did an excellent job holding together the 2010 class. Did I feel like he signed some stretches? Yes. D. Sapp comes to mind for example. I just do not want to see that happen over and over again in this class. That is a concern to me, as a fan, because we all know how important recruiting is to the success of our team. If Auburn can turn things around as quick as they have, I feel we should be able to as well.

 

[Preds&Vols]

This may sound crazy but I actually like Derek Dooley and given time I think he will be successful. I have always held that stance. The only thing I disagree with is taking players who are not Tennessee caliber prospects just for the sake of "getting commitments". I thought Dooley did an excellent job holding together the 2010 class. Did I feel like he signed some stretches? Yes. D. Sapp comes to mind for example. I just do not want to see that happen over and over again in this class. That is a concern to me, as a fan, because we all know how important recruiting is to the success of our team. If Auburn can turn things around as quick as they have, I feel we should be able to as well.

You're talking about stars not actual TALENT. That's what UT needs to sign...Talent that fits our needs not stars who make some of our fanbase and the recruiting services feel/look better. Who gives a flying fart about stars in June? If this were Jan 30th before NSD you might have a legitimate gripe, but since it's not put your damn shades on cause all the stargazing you're doing is blinding you dude.

 

[VolOnthePlains]

We're either his number 1 or number 2 and he hasn't even visited yet.

 

[lilesrt]

You're talking about stars not actual TALENT. That's what UT needs to sign...Talent that fits our needs not stars who make some of our fanbase and the recruiting services feel/look better. Who gives a flying fart about stars in June? If this were Jan 30th before NSD you might have a legitimate gripe, but since it's not put your damn shades on cause all the stargazing you're doing is blinding you dude.

"You're talking about stars not actual TALENT". There is a strong correlation between the number of stars a player has and the talent they possess.

 

[Volinnooga]

Some of you guys continue to amaze me. You have decided who is SEC talent and who isn't (based upon what, I'm not sure) and you seem to believe you can evaluate talent better than Vol coaches.

Do you really think they are going to take a commitment from a guy who they don't think can play just for the sake of "getting commitments"?

 

[Lord Vader]

Iowa and Tennessee are Campbell's top 2.