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#28
#28
The secret to his broad jump is how high he pulls up his shorts.

It was an impressive film even if he is no Arne Tvervaag.

Anyone hear anything about Marcus Walker at CAK? Much smaller than that guy much faster also.
 
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cbcollins said:
Haha touche. I still think Oregon is a mid level team in a sub par conference.
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and tenn is a low level team in a conference that is 11-7 since 2000 against the pac 10.... if u forgot i should remind you the pac 10 was 5-0 in the bowls last year..

also just so you know oregon is 4-1 right now with wins over two top 25 teams and ranked #16 about to be higher... tenn is 2-3 with wins over ohio(div1aa3-2) and the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers(0-4)... o... and dont forget the loss at home to one of the pac 10's mid level teams 2 years in a row ucla:eek:hmy:.

its very laughable to me that anyone would think Tennessee is any kind of a program since the new decade..

oregon>>>>>>>tenn
sec=pac 10(only because the pac 10 finish second in recruiting every year to the sec otherwise pac10>sec)

more like bryce brown was a waste of an athlete going to the vols... could of won a Heisman at oregon
 
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mdm0302 said:
and tenn is a low level team in a conference that is 11-7 since 2000 against the pac 10.... if u forgot i should remind you the pac 10 was 5-0 in the bowls last year..

also just so you know oregon is 4-1 right now with wins over two top 25 teams and ranked #16 about to be higher... tenn is 2-3 with wins over ohio(div1aa3-2) and the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers(0-4)... o... and dont forget the loss at home to one of the pac 10's mid level teams 2 years in a row ucla:eek:hmy:.

its very laughable to me that anyone would think Tennessee is any kind of a program since the new decade..

oregon>>>>>>>tenn
sec=pac 10(only because the pac 10 finish second in recruiting every year to the sec otherwise pac10>sec)

more like bryce brown was a waste of an athlete going to the vols... could of won a Heisman at oregon
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Yes i have to admit that tenn has seen better days and oregon is a good program, but you got to be ****!ng retarded to think the *** 10=sec. Look at those five bowl games yall won. Most of them were against soft teams, while just about every team that was bowl eligible played a pretty tough team. Get the hell off our site. :crazy::crazy::the_finger::the_finger:
 
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#39
VolATLien said:
Yes i have to admit that tenn has seen better days and oregon is a good program, but you got to be ****!ng retarded to think the *** 10=sec. Look at those five bowl games yall won. Most of them were against soft teams, while just about every team that was bowl eligible played a pretty tough team. Get the hell off our site. :crazy::crazy::the_finger::the_finger:
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dude pac 10 is 11-7 against the sec since 2000.. maybe i can give the sec an edge as the best conference in America but the pac 10 is nipping at your heals
 
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mdm0302 said:
and tenn is a low level team in a conference that is 11-7 since 2000 against the pac 10.... if u forgot i should remind you the pac 10 was 5-0 in the bowls last year..

also just so you know oregon is 4-1 right now with wins over two top 25 teams and ranked #16 about to be higher... tenn is 2-3 with wins over ohio(div1aa3-2) and the Western Kentucky Hilltoppers(0-4)... o... and dont forget the loss at home to one of the pac 10's mid level teams 2 years in a row ucla:eek:hmy:.

its very laughable to me that anyone would think Tennessee is any kind of a program since the new decade..

oregon>>>>>>>tenn
sec=pac 10(only because the pac 10 finish second in recruiting every year to the sec otherwise pac10>sec)

more like bryce brown was a waste of an athlete going to the vols... could of won a Heisman at oregon
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Good point -- except your numbers are skewed. USC beating up on a 3-9 Arkansas team and an Oregon team beating up on a 2-10 Mississippi St. team don't exactly add up to quality wins. In addition, USC was your only team to play in a bowl on new years day or after. Not exactly the toughest competition.

The SEC is 5-0 in BCS nat'l title games. The Pac-10, taken as a whole, is not as good as the SEC and you guys know it. I realize it's frustrating for ESPN to toot the conferences horn every chance they get, but that's reality. Sorry little guy... time for bed.
 
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VolATLien said:
Yes i have to admit that tenn has seen better days and oregon is a good program, but you got to be ****!ng retarded to think the *** 10=sec. Look at those five bowl games yall won. Most of them were against soft teams, while just about every team that was bowl eligible played a pretty tough team. Get the hell off our site. :crazy::crazy::the_finger::the_finger:
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dude pac 10 is 11-7 against the sec since 2000.. maybe i can give the sec an edge as the best conference in America but the pac 10 is nipping at your heals
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
Good point -- except your numbers are skewed. USC beating up on a 3-9 Arkansas team and an Oregon team beating up on a 2-10 Mississippi St. team don't exactly add up to quality wins. In addition, USC was your only team to play in a bowl on new years day or after. Not exactly the toughest competition.

The SEC is 5-0 in BCS nat'l title games. The Pac-10, taken as a whole, is not as good as the SEC and you guys know it. I realize it's frustrating for ESPN to toot the conferences horn every chance they get, but that's reality. Sorry little guy... time for bed.
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if u dont think that it goes both ways our wrong..
2003, #13 lsu beats a 2-10 Arizona team
2006, #8 lsu beats 6-6 arizona team
2006, #4 auburn beats 6-6 washinton st
2008, #3 georgia beats 6-6 arizona st

i think the fairest way to determine what a quality win is to compare the outcome of the game against the spread...
the pac ten is up 60 point on that..(pac 10 178-sec 118)if you dont understand how i got these numbers read below

here is a few examples... #3 alabama favored by 7 against ucla in 2000. ucla wins by 11 therefore giving the pac 10 18 points.

#13 lsu favored by 11 against arizona in 2003. lsu wins by 46 therefore giving the sec 35 points.

#6 auburn favored by 3 against #8 usc in 2003. usc wins by 23 therefore giving the pac 10 26 points.
here is the link to where i got my data Pac-10 vs. SEC: Who has the upper hand? | "Tell them ? tell the team to bear down"

hopefully anyone who reads this can agree with me that if the pac ten is not as good of a conference as the sec then they are damn close....
 
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mdm0302 said:
if u dont think that it goes both ways our wrong..
2003, #13 lsu beats a 2-10 Arizona team
2006, #8 lsu beats 6-6 arizona team
2006, #4 auburn beats 6-6 washinton st
2008, #3 georgia beats 6-6 arizona st

i think the fairest way to determine what a quality win is to compare the outcome of the game against the spread...
the pac ten is up 60 point on that..(pac 10 178-sec 118)if you dont understand how i got these numbers read below

here is a few examples... #3 alabama favored by 7 against ucla in 2000. ucla wins by 11 therefore giving the pac 10 18 points.

#13 lsu favored by 11 against arizona in 2003. lsu wins by 46 therefore giving the sec 35 points.

#6 auburn favored by 3 against #8 usc in 2003. usc wins by 23 therefore giving the pac 10 26 points.
here is the link to where i got my data Pac-10 vs. SEC: Who has the upper hand? | "Tell them ? tell the team to bear down"

hopefully anyone who reads this can agree with me that if the pac ten is not as good of a conference as the sec then they are damn close....
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First, the fact that you guys take time to crunch these kind of numbers shows a football insecurity I've never seen before.

Secondly, determining a "fair" win based on Vegas betting lines is beyond illogical.
 
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Gannon Goodson said:
First, the fact that you guys take time to crunch these kind of numbers shows a football insecurity I've never seen before.

Secondly, determining a "fair" win based on Vegas betting lines is beyond illogical.
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i wouldn't call it illogical since people make and loose tons of money each day using it.... it is equally wrong and equally right for both conferences (logical statistics).
not to mention it really isnt close, pac ten with 60 more points.... the only statisticall claim that can be used to support the sec over the pac ten is that that the sec brings in the #1 rated recruiting class every year while the pack ten is #2...though this stat can be easily refuted because the sec brings in an average of 44 more recruits every year since it has 2 more teams.

aslo from 1988-2007 pac ten teams have produced an average of 64.9 nfl players while the sec is at 62.83.
more wins, covers spread better, more athletes/pro player, better conference!

just so everyone know i honestly do think the sec is a tad bit better then the pac 10... im just sick and tired of the fans of the sec thinking its the conference god of college football.
 
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mdm0302 said:
i wouldn't call it illogical since people make and loose tons of money each day using it.... it is equally wrong and equally right for both conferences (logical statistics).
not to mention it really isnt close, pac ten with 60 more points.... the only statisticall claim that can be used to support the sec over the pac ten is that that the sec brings in the #1 rated recruiting class every year while the pack ten is #2...though this stat can be easily refuted because the sec brings in an average of 44 more recruits every year since it has 2 more teams.

aslo from 1988-2007 pac ten teams have produced an average of 64.9 nfl players while the sec is at 62.83.
more wins, covers spread better, more athletes/pro player, better conference!

just so everyone know i honestly do think the sec is a tad bit better then the pac 10... im just sick and tired of the fans of the sec thinking its the conference god of college football.
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A spread is nothing more than what odds-makers think a team will win by.

With the current teams in each conference, the SEC has a record of 63-40-6 over the PAC-10. In addition, the SEC has 188 bowl wins -- with the PAC-10 in second at 110.

The SEC also has a slight edge in bowl match-ups between the two conferences at 9-8-2.

The problem with the PAC-10 is that it has become a one-horse race with USC. They've won 7 straight conference titles.

No one is saying it's a weak conference (and some teams will match up well and win against SEC opponents), but if you take the top 7 teams from each and put 'em head to head, there's no doubt who would come out on top. Good luck to the Ducks.
 
#46
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mdm0302 said:
i wouldn't call it illogical since people make and loose tons of money each day using it.... it is equally wrong and equally right for both conferences (logical statistics).
not to mention it really isnt close, pac ten with 60 more points.... the only statisticall claim that can be used to support the sec over the pac ten is that that the sec brings in the #1 rated recruiting class every year while the pack ten is #2...though this stat can be easily refuted because the sec brings in an average of 44 more recruits every year since it has 2 more teams.

aslo from 1988-2007 pac ten teams have produced an average of 64.9 nfl players while the sec is at 62.83.
more wins, covers spread better, more athletes/pro player, better conference!

just so everyone know i honestly do think the sec is a tad bit better then the pac 10... im just sick and tired of the fans of the sec thinking its the conference god of college football.
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That's the worst friggin' argument for the Pac-10 that I've ever heard made in my entire life. At no point were you actually close to a legitimate contention. Your facts are wrong, your reasoning is wrong, and you root for a crap conference.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
That's the worst friggin' argument for the Pac-10 that I've ever heard made in my entire life. At no point were you actually close to a legitimate contention. Your facts are wrong, your reasoning is wrong, and you root for a crap conference.
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actually its a pretty good argument and all the facts are right. you just sound like pissed of fan of a "crap" team...
 
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