#15 Auburn(8-3) @ #1 Alabama(10-1) - ESPN at 7:45ET

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UTCVol said:
But why? How does this benefit UT in any way?
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It doesn't. It just further widens the gap between the elite and the teams that aren't having that type of success.


But it allows the teams that aren't having that same success the illusion that they're slightly more successful than the numbers indicate (because they have to compete with those teams, which many seem to feel they can brag about the successes of those others as means of measuring their team's perceived "toughness").
 
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We are not going to be a good football team by hoping all our rivals fall. Does the fact that we're 6-6 and beat Vandy this year make us a good football team? Let's hope all our rivals are great but we become greater.
 
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Sandvol said:
We are not going to be a good football team by hoping all our rivals fall. Does the fact that we're 6-6 and beat Vandy this year make us a good football team? Let's hope all our rivals are great but we become greater.
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Except we still have to make up the gap. That way of thinking kind of ignores that part.

If we're getting better, but they're also getting better (possibly at an even accelerated rate), you don't exactly catch up.
 
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TrueOrange said:
If you really disliked them, though, you wouldn't even tolerate their reaching the upper echelons at all, would you?
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Oh for crying out loud. Are you glad that Florida, Georgia, and Kentucky all lost to ACC teams today? I'm not.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Except we still have to make up the gap. That way of thinking kind of ignores that part.

If we're getting better, but they're also getting better (possibly at an even accelerated rate), you don't exactly catch up.
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Yeah, so let's all hope all the SEC is 5-5 and we're 12-0. That will make us great.
 
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I get what Sand is saying to a point. I prefer the SEC dominate it's bowl matchups but I don't individually root for opposing SEC teams. Who wants to be in a weak ass conference?
 
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Hate to say it...but we all knew the kiffin experiment would be a rousing success at Bama...is he the HBC elsewhere next yr? Perhaps a stagnant program...see Miami, Iowa, USCJR even. My $$$ would be on an NFL gig as OC.
 
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Sandvol said:
They're all our direct competition.
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So how does it benefit us for the teams that directly compete against us - that not only just play us on the field, but compete with us in recruiting, namely targeting the same kids of interests and showing/using towards these same recruits all the successes they've had that we haven't - to have continued elite levels of success when we're still looking to try to break through back to that level?


Should a feeling of "well at least I lost to the champ" mean my season was any better than the W/L record?
 
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TrueOrange said:
So how does it benefit us for the teams that directly compete against us - that not only just play us on the field, but compete with us in recruiting, namely targeting the same kids of interests and showing/using towards these same recruits all the successes they've had that we haven't - to have continued elite levels of success when we're still looking to try to break through back to that level?


Should a feeling of "well at least I lost to the champ" mean my season was any better than the W/L record?
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Do you want us to be the best?
 
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Sandvol said:
Yeah, so let's all hope all the SEC is 5-5 and we're 12-0. That will make us great.
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No, I just don't want further success for the teams that directly compete with us (especially for recruits).

A UGA and/or Bama winning a national championship doesn't help us or make us any better, especially when its the same kids we're going to try to recruit that their going to be showing their rings to, letting see their trophies, and emphasizing how much more successful their program is.

Oddly enough, though, doesn't that scenario you gave pretty much sums up the 90s in this conference?
 
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TrueOrange said:
No, I just don't want further success for the teams that directly compete with us (especially for recruits).

A UGA and/or Bama winning a national championship doesn't help us or make us any better, especially when its the same kids we're going to try to recruit that their going to be showing their rings to, letting see their trophies, and emphasizing how much more successful their program is.

Oddly enough, though, doesn't that scenario you gave pretty much sums up the 90s in this conference?
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So, do you want BAMA to digress to about the level of Kentucky?
 
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