#17 Stanford vs #7 Notre Dame

#27
#27
I think that one was a hard call honestly

..he might have gotten it, but the loss of possession makes it an absolute mess to tell...especially when you have to find something more concrete to overturn a call

Ball is clearly over the white line. Just saying.
 
#28
#28
In real time it looked to me like an early whistle and that his last surge occurred after it.

This. Three ND players jump off the pile and then Thomas reaches forward to put the ball in the endzone while the line judge is running in with the whistle in his mouth.

Great game; ND's defense only gives up 6 points.
 
#31
#31
This. Three ND players jump off the pile and then Thomas reaches forward to put the ball in the endzone while the line judge is running in with the whistle in his mouth.

Great game; ND's defense only gives up 6 points.

Then there should have been no review. The fact that there was a review either points to general incompetence or revisionism to preserve the win for ND.
 
#32
#32
Then there should have been no review. The fact that there was a review either points to general incompetence or revisionism to preserve the win for ND.

I agree that there should have been no review. However, the review clearly shows the line judge running in with his whistle in his mouth, crossing his arms above his head to mark the play dead and the player down, and the ND players jumping off the pile to celebrate; after which, Thomas reaches the ball over the goal line.
 
#33
#33
Mike Pereira

Former Vice President of Officiating in the National Football League. Current Rules Analyst at FOX Sports.

We have looked at ND/STA last play from every angle & feel that it is a TD. Progress was not ruled & runner was not down. Ball broke plane.
 
#34
#34
Mike Pereira

Former Vice President of Officiating in the National Football League. Current Rules Analyst at FOX Sports.

Was this an NFL game?

4 Officials (2 on the field and 2 in the booth) in South Bend looked at the play from multiple angles and ruled that the game was over.

Since all that they stated was that the ruling on the field stands (they did not state whether the review confirmed the call), I would imagine that they realized that the line judge had blown the play dead prior to the ND defensive players jumping off the pile and prior to Thomas reaching the ball over the goal line.

If Stanford feels they were screwed, maybe they should work on getting 3 yards in three plays (two of those plays being half a yard).
 
#35
#35
Was this an NFL game?

4 Officials (2 on the field and 2 in the booth) in South Bend looked at the play from multiple angles and ruled that the game was over.

Since all that they stated was that the ruling on the field stands (they did not state whether the review confirmed the call), I would imagine that they realized that the line judge had blown the play dead prior to the ND defensive players jumping off the pile and prior to Thomas reaching the ball over the goal line.

If Stanford feels they were screwed, maybe they should work on getting 3 yards in three plays (two of those plays being half a yard).


Why does it matter if it's an NFL game? He was the vice president of officiating at the highest level and he spends his time doing nothing but watching games and judging the refs calls. Seems kind of stupid to question him given the fact that it's his life work and all he does is sit there reviewing calls. It's not like this is his first season watching college football, I think he knows the rules.

And your logic that there were refs on the field and they looked at it in the booth has no bearing. If it did, you can't question the Packers/Seahawks game. There were refs on the field and they reviewed it in the booth too. Doesn't mean they got it right.

You say it's Stanford's fault for not getting 3 yards but 90% of the country believes they did get 3 yards, it was just a bad call.
 
#36
#36
He just commented again...

Back to ND/STA. Piece all the shots together. Field level shot from inside near the goal post shows the left elbow is not down before TD.


He's sitting there analyzing it over and over again. I'll take his word over the guys who looked at it for 30 seconds.
 
#37
#37
I am not arguing with whether or not Thomas got the ball across before any part of his body was down. I am stating that the line judge called the play down and then two ND players jumped off the pile and off of Thomas, at which time Thomas was free to reach the ball across the goal line.

If you want to say the line judge f'ed up, I agree. However, that does not mean that Stanford was screwed. Thomas might not have ever gotten in had those two players not abandoned the play to celebrate.
 

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