'17 TN ATH Jacoby Stevens (LSU commit)

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InVOLuntary said:
Take a kid in Alabama that Auburn and Bama want badly and he announces for Tennessee or LSU at his high school and he gets booed out of the gym. Take a kid in GA that chooses TN or Clemson over the dogs, Take a kid from Louisiana that chooses Bama or Texas Am over the home state school, they get booed out of the gym.

It definitely is different here. Jacoby gets standing ovation. People wonder why Tennessee has trouble keeping kids home.
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Because we have some class and don't boo high school kids at their announcement? Give me a break. 2017 has been a bummer but it's not for the reasons that you're implying at all. We just need to start winning big games and being a consistent contender...like right now.
 
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My reasons why Vols were probably not considered:
1) La is home
2) TN not proven to be consistent title contender yet
3) Vols take big safeties and make fast LBers out of them. Both Bama and LSU play big safeties at safety
4) Tennessee has a little log jam at safety and definitely will if Gibbs comes also
 
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As far as in-state recruiting, if we just had kept Tee Higgins in the fold, the perception wouldn't be so bad. We have Gray and are leading for Trey Smith. Stevens and Rogers were never coming here and we were lukewarm about Richardson. I think it looks worse than it is. We do need to do better in the future, though.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because we have some class and don't boo high school kids at their announcement? Give me a break. 2017 has been a bummer but it's not for the reasons that you're implying at all. We just need to start winning big games and being a consistent contender...like right now.
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No I understand what he's trying to say. I definitely wouldn't want for Stevens to be booed as he seems like a stand up kid. But the little punk from Oak Ridge wouldn't have had a fireworks display if he lived in Alabama.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Take a kid in Alabama that Auburn and Bama want badly and he announces for Tennessee or LSU at his high school and he gets booed out of the gym. Take a kid in GA that chooses TN or Clemson over the dogs, Take a kid from Louisiana that chooses Bama or Texas Am over the home state school, they get booed out of the gym.

It definitely is different here. Jacoby gets standing ovation. People wonder why Tennessee has trouble keeping kids home.
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Total BS post! I've never seen a kid commit to TN and get booed. Nice troll job.
 
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KPT_VFL said:
He is not from TN he may have went to high school here but he is from Louisiana. I've also never seen a kid get booed out of the gym for announcing out of state.
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Not sure but I think you're wrong here. He does have a lot of family in Louisiana and he's spent a lot of time there in the summers but he's been in Tennessee for a long time. Volatile may be able to clarify.

My point remains regardless. There is huge pressure in other states to stay home. Families job's get threatened ect. Not that I am placing my stamp of approval on that but in other states there is huge pressure to stay in state. Not so much in Tennessee.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Because we have some class and don't boo high school kids at their announcement? Give me a break. 2017 has been a bummer but it's not for the reasons that you're implying at all. We just need to start winning big games and being a consistent contender...like right now.
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If you don't think in-state pressure is a huge factor in recruiting you are extremely naive.

As to winning, even when Bama has been down, Georgia, and FL to certain extent, they would still get most of the players they wanted in-state.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
No I understand what he's trying to say. I definitely wouldn't want for Stevens to be booed as he seems like a stand up kid. But the little punk from Oak Ridge wouldn't have had a fireworks display if he lived in Alabama.
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Also, I never said that he should have been booed. It is a indicator of pressure placed on them by their communities to stay in state and it is a huge factor. In Tennessee those pressures don't exist. Is it because we are "above that"? I don't know. All I know is it is much easier for a kid to leave the state when they live in Tennessee as opposed to Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and even Ohio. I'm not debating whether it is right or wrong.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Also, I never said that he should have been booed. It is a indicator of pressure placed on them by their communities to stay in state and it is a huge factor. In Tennessee those pressures don't exist. Is it because we are "above that"? I don't know. All I know is it is much easier for a kid to leave the state when they live in Tennessee as opposed to Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and even Ohio. I'm not debating whether it is right or wrong.
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Id say its good kids can go where they want, good grief if you love someone set them free!
 
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Sometimes they do, sometimes they want to experience something new. What will be will be.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Not disagreeing. But, what I'm saying is that taking the high road probably hurts our in-state recruiting. I guess we just have to live with that. :focus:
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I have no problem living with it, of course i went to school in a different state so i get it, peole who never left home, maybe not so much.
 
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bignewt said:
Id say its good kids can go where they want, good grief if you love someone set them free!
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Yep. My two older kids got to live in Japan for 3 years. Vacationed in places like Hawaii, Guam and Malaysia.

If I had stayed home, instead of joining the Marine Corps, they would have never experienced the world. Interesting how people never question when 18 year olds join the military and leave home.

Good luck to Jacoby at LSU....help out your East brothers and beat Bama and FL. We'll owe you one later, just not in the SECCG. That one ours.
 
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bignewt said:
I have no problem living with it, of course i went to school in a different state so i get it, peole who never left home, maybe not so much.
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I've was born and raised in the Knoxville area but have traveled all over. Been to every state except for Alaska and Rhode Island. Lived in Virginia for a while. I always had a tug for back home. Obviously I have always been a fan of the big orange. People are different. It's a free country and I don't begrudge people for doing their own thing. I also don't begrudge people for favoring the folks that are loyal to their home town.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If you don't think in-state pressure is a huge factor in recruiting you are extremely naive.

As to winning, even when Bama has been down, Georgia, and FL to certain extent, they would still get most of the players they wanted in-state.
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... and so has Butch Jones! (Jalen Hurd, Derek Barnett, Kyle Phillips, TK JR, Josh Malone, Jashon Robertson, Drew Richmond, Charles Mosley and even Maleik Gray and perhaps Trey Smith for 2017 - we will see). A few have gotten away for 2017 but it really is just one (Higgins) that especially hurts. Even in times of success Georgia and Florida both lose a lot of talent because there is so much of it. Georgia lost Kyle Davis, Nigel Warrior and Derrick Brown in 2016 and Robert Nkemdiche in 2013. There is in-state pressure in Tennessee just like Georgia but that doesn't mean we are going to get them all and it sure as hell doesn't mean that our fan base should harass or boo teenagers... Geez!
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Not disagreeing. But, what I'm saying is that taking the high road probably hurts our in-state recruiting. I guess we just have to live with that. :focus:
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I personally am glad to see kids able to celebrate another student's success. Folks should be able to choose the path that is right for them. They are the ones that have to live with it.
 
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