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[BigOrangeTrain]

1. Worley is a mediocre QB.
2. Our defense is good and will get better in the future, but it is going to take a few lumps this year due to youth.
3. North is a beast.
4. Hurd is a, potentially, very good RB, but I'm not sure they are calling the best plays for him. In fact, I'm still not sure what the hell Bajakian is doing after a year and two games of being here. I do know I am tired of the no-keep option we run.
5. The speed is refreshing and gives me real hope, i.e. not the manufactured nonsense peddled in the name of being "positive" or a "good fan".

2-0 is better than not being 2-0, but, right now, let's not blow smoke up our rear ends. This is a bare minimum, beating these teams. Not being 2-0 would signify some very serious problems, as opposed to this, where they are still just out there.

Your first statement says all I need to know about you. Almost everybody else has been saying how good Worley is playing. It's only his haters that have said otherwise. I guess you're in that club. That club is losing its members at an alarming rate. You should feel proud of yourself.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Your first statement says all I need to know about you. Almost everybody else has been saying how good Worley is playing. It's only his haters that have said otherwise. I guess you're in that club. That club is losing its members at an alarming rate. You should feel proud of yourself.

Well said.

 

[deaconkane]

1. Worley is a mediocre QB.
2. Our defense is good and will get better in the future, but it is going to take a few lumps this year due to youth.
3. North is a beast.
4. Hurd is a, potentially, very good RB, but I'm not sure they are calling the best plays for him. In fact, I'm still not sure what the hell Bajakian is doing after a year and two games of being here. I do know I am tired of the no-keep option we run.
5. The speed is refreshing and gives me real hope, i.e. not the manufactured nonsense peddled in the name of being "positive" or a "good fan".

2-0 is better than not being 2-0, but, right now, let's not blow smoke up our rear ends. This is a bare minimum, beating these teams. Not being 2-0 would signify some very serious problems, as opposed to this, where they are still just out there.

Careful bro, I am absolutely getting torched for saying this.

 

[Biopsyman]

Marcus Jackson player better as a True Freshman

 

[vol445]

78 to 10 is vandy's combined score over two games

72 to 26 is ut's combined score. The shift has begun.

Even tho I hate to admit it we had been the weaker of the two teams the past couple of years. I know vandy played ole miss who is better than the 2 teams we played but temple is not. My point yes 2-0 should of been expected but not in my mind a given. The shift has begun to assume our god given right back in the upper tier of the sec and college football world. Gonna be a slow ride tho so sit back and enjoy the wins cuz butch is building for permenant results. We took winning as a fan base for granted. We are learning a hard lesson

 

[BACKDOC]

We have a good QB in Worley.
We seem to have a very good Defense.
North is simply a Beast that catches everything within his reach.
Hurd runs with purpose and gets the tough yards.
We FINALLY have real speed all over the field.

We are 2-0 and even though we will take a lot of lumps this year we finally have many reasons to be excited for the future. We got Real talent again Nation.

No team will be able to Overlook us this year. We have many problems for sure but for the first time in many years we have more to be excited about than be concerned over.

Go Vols:rock:

What worries me is who plays QB after Worley is gone.

 

[Unimane]

Your first statement says all I need to know about you. Almost everybody else has been saying how good Worley is playing. It's only his haters that have said otherwise. I guess you're in that club. That club is losing its members at an alarming rate. You should feel proud of yourself.

What the hell is a "hater"? What sort of nonsense is that? Worley can't throw the deep ball, rarely runs on this ridiculous no option offense, rarely is able to throw to a receiver in stride and has been only decent against weak mid-major defenses. If people want to look as fans and not objectively, then "everybody" can do so, but they are in for an unpleasant surprise as the competition ratchets up.

 

[Spartacavolus]

What the hell is a "hater"? Worley can't throw the deep ball, rarely runs on this ridiculous no option offense, rarely is able to throw to a receiver in stride and has been only decent against weak mid-major defenses. If people want to look as fans and not objectively, then "everybody" can do so, but they are in for an unpleasant surprise as the competition ratchets up.

you don't need to use the word objective to describe your points. You always bring the whiny, complaining attitude that festers at your other home.

No joke that we are going to struggle the next 2 weeks and down the road. But we are 2-0 and Worley made throws that you and others said for 2 years he didn't have the ability to make. That's looking at things objectively. Yours always has a slant to it

 

[CountVolcula]

We started 2-0 in 2012 and made the Top 25

 

[Unimane]

you don't need to use the word objective to describe your points. You always bring the whiny, complaining attitude that festers at your other home.

No joke that we are going to struggle the next 2 weeks and down the road. But we are 2-0 and Worley made throws that you and others said for 2 years he didn't have the ability to make. That's looking at things objectively. Yours always has a slant to it

I made 5 points and 4 of them were positives, but that wasn't good enough for the "speak no evil" brigade. And, no, Worley hasn't been making those throws. You haven't the faintest idea what objective is.

 

[EZE]

2-0 for sure. We just won two games we had to have with rookies all over the field. I am ecstatic.

I see Oklahoma as a barometer type game that I don't expect to win. Then, a week off before the season really begins.

We will continue to get better.

 

[Spartacavolus]

I made 5 points and 4 of them were positives, but that wasn't good enough for the "speak no evil" brigade. And, no, Worley hasn't been making those throws. You haven't the faintest idea what objective is.

Ha. reread your first sentence of the post I quoted. You made 4 negative points about Worley before your first sentence ended.
Not only do you not have the ability to be objective, but you evidently are delusional to what you just posted and can't add as well as I'd expect.

Fact is most realize who we just played and what's heading our way. However, that doesn't mean you just make up whatever you want and post it without somebody responding. He's made throws in the first 2 games by stepping into it and firing it and out of 65% completion % has hit plenty of guys in the right spots on outs, deep outs, slants and a couple of deeper sideline passes. And the back shoulder throws have been perfect. If you want him to lead the wr there, that's your problem not understanding the throw required.
He has missed the deep ball, but not one time has the deep WR not had a DB all over him and only North has gone up and fought for the ball.
That's objective analysis of the 2 games he has played so far. Not perfect and plenty of room to improve.

 

[Unimane]

Ha. reread your first sentence of the post I quoted. You made 4 negative points about Worley before your first sentence ended.
Not only do you not have the ability to be objective, but you evidently are delusional to what you just posted and can't add as well as I'd expect.

Fact is most realize who we just played and what's heading our way. However, that doesn't mean you just make up whatever you want and post it without somebody responding. He's made throws in the first 2 games by stepping into it and firing it and out of 65% completion % has hit plenty of guys in the right spots on outs, deep outs, slants and a couple of deeper sideline passes. And the back shoulder throws have been perfect. If you want him to lead the wr there, that's your problem not understanding the throw required.
He has missed the deep ball, but not one time has the deep WR not had a DB all over him and only North has gone up and fought for the ball.
That's objective analysis of the 2 games he has played so far. Not perfect and plenty of room to improve.

Go back to the first point in the exchange, then get back to me.

Worley has played decent against a couple of poor defenses from mid-major conferences. If you think he can get away with the type of throws he made the last 2 weeks, then you are kidding yourself.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Go back to the first point in the exchange, then get back to me.

Worley has played decent against a couple of poor defenses from mid-major conferences. If you think he can get away with the type of throws he made the last 2 weeks, then you are kidding yourself.

of course OK defense will be tougher. But I saw some slants on the money and his sideline outs and back shoulder throws were in a spot only his wr could get it.
For you to say he hasn't made good strong throws out of 75 passes in 2 games is biased, whether intentional or not.

 

[Unimane]

of course OK defense will be tougher. But I saw some slants on the money and his sideline outs and back shoulder throws were in a spot only his wr could get it.
For you to say he hasn't made good strong throws out of 75 passes in 2 games is biased, whether intentional or not.

Biased against what, mediocre QB play? This whole business of being a "hater"or "biased" is utter idiocy. He's either good or he's not, there's no hidden agenda, whatever that could possibly be. Worley starts making the throws that he hasn't been doing thus far in his career and I'll change my tune.

Worley is NOT throwing his slants on the money and he's not making really strong throws, it isn't that hard to discern. This is further compounded by the poor play calling and scheming by the OC. The fact that we have really solid WRs is the silver lining for our offense this year.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Biased against what, mediocre QB play? This whole business of being a "hater"or "biased" is utter idiocy. He's either good or he's not, there's no hidden agenda, whatever that could possibly be. Worley starts making the throws that he hasn't been doing thus far in his career and I'll change my tune.

Worley is NOT throwing his slants on the money and he's not making really strong throws, it isn't that hard to discern. This is further compounded by the poor play calling and scheming by the OC. The fact that we have really solid WRs is the silver lining for our offense this year.

like I said. You had your mind made up already and are too arrogant or ignorant to admit it. He's thrown 75 passes at 65% completion rate. If you don't know where an out, back shoulder throw or deep curl is supposed to hit a wr, then study up on the position a little more. His only throw to Malone Saturday was rifled and hit him in stride. Same for throws earlier in the game and his throws to North were perfect. Throws to Smith have hit him in the hands every time. Same for TE. He hit Croom on several passes from far hash to sideline and stepped up in the pocket with several rifled passes yesterday.
Coaches, Peyton, Ainge, Swain, Fair, receivers and announcers say he's making throws and I point them out, yet you refuse to see them and act like you know wtf you are talking about. In this instance with his throws in the last 2 games, you are clueless and still holding onto his terrible throws from last year.
Now continue to explain how you actually see what is happening, because it's obvious you haven't seen much in the first 2 games, outside of course what you want to see.

 

[KBVol]

Biased against what, mediocre QB play? This whole business of being a "hater"or "biased" is utter idiocy. He's either good or he's not, there's no hidden agenda, whatever that could possibly be. Worley starts making the throws that he hasn't been doing thus far in his career and I'll change my tune.

Worley is NOT throwing his slants on the money and he's not making really strong throws, it isn't that hard to discern. This is further compounded by the poor play calling and scheming by the OC. The fact that we have really solid WRs is the silver lining for our offense this year.

This is absolutely delusional. Hasn't been making really strong throws? He's made some outstanding throws on slants, deep outs and corner routes the first 2 games. He made 2 outstanding back shoulder throws to North yesterday. The only thing easy to discern is your anti-Worley agenda. You wanna say he's not great then fine, we can agree on that. The other criticisms you have of his play the first 2 games is just slanted.

 

[Unimane]

like I said. You had your mind made up already and are too arrogant or ignorant to admit it. He's thrown 75 passes at 65% completion rate. If you don't know where an out, back shoulder throw or deep curl is supposed to hit a wr, then study up on the position a little more. His only throw to Malone Saturday was rifled and hit him in stride. Same for throws earlier in the game and his throws to North were perfect. Throws to Smith have hit him in the hands every time. Same for TE. He hit Croom on several passes from far hash to sideline and stepped up in the pocket with several rifled passes yesterday.
Coaches, Peyton, Ainge, Swain, Fair, receivers and announcers say he's making throws and I point them out, yet you refuse to see them and act like you know wtf you are talking about. In this instance with his throws in the last 2 games, you are clueless and still holding onto his terrible throws from last year.
Now continue to explain how you actually see what is happening, because it's obvious you haven't seen much in the first 2 games, outside of course what you want to see.

Watch, then. Your ridiculous demand that everyone make happy comments will run into reality very shortly when mediocre defenses give way to big time Ds and proves that Worley isn't up to this level. He's so accurate and good that he can't throw for 300 yards against a couple of scrub defenses. Him throwing for 65% isn't that it of a deal, either, especially when none of them are down the field.

Still, Worley isn't a problem, for me. He's a senior, a stop gap until we get our roster returned to normal, and I think the QB recruits we have coming will be fine. I'm far more concerned with the guy in the play calling booth.

 

[Unimane]

This is absolutely delusional. Hasn't been making really strong throws? He's made some outstanding throws on slants, deep outs and corner routes the first 2 games. He made 2 outstanding back shoulder throws to North yesterday. The only thing easy to discern is your anti-Worley agenda. You wanna say he's not great then fine, we can agree on that. The other criticisms you have of his play the first 2 games is just slanted.

Again with this stupid agenda concept. Throwing for a modest amount of yards against Utah State and Arkansas State is not impressive. We do this crap every year after we play the weaklings on our schedule instead of looking at how they played.

 

[Spartacavolus]

Watch, then. Your ridiculous demand that everyone make happy comments will run into reality very shortly when mediocre defenses give way to big time Ds and proves that Worley isn't up to this level. He's so accurate and good that he can't throw for 300 yards against a couple of scrub defenses. Him throwing for 65% isn't that it of a deal, either, especially when none of them are down the field.

Still, Worley isn't a problem, for me. He's a senior, a stop gap until we get our roster returned to normal, and I think the QB recruits we have coming will be fine. I'm far more concerned with the guy in the play calling booth.

Oh be quiet with the bs and stick with the topic. At no time did I make any ridiculous demands about no negativity. I'm just pointing out how delusional, biased and wrong you are about Worleys throws through 2 games. Period. Very simple and drama free.
As far as against better competition with a new OL, no kidding that he won't complete 65% and won't look as good. My 7 yr old knows as much.
As far as the OC, im far from impressed, but I'm not writing him off yet. I don't think we've run more than 12 plays.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

The Offensive Line will be the difference between a 5-7 and 7-5. If they protect Worley and can run block decent we will go bowling this year.

This ^^^^^^^!

 

[Unimane]

Oh be quiet with the bs and stick with the topic. At no time did I make any ridiculous demands about no negativity. I'm just pointing out how delusional, biased and wrong you are about Worleys throws through 2 games. Period. Very simple and drama free.
As far as against better competition with a new OL, no kidding that he won't complete 65% and won't look as good. My 7 yr old knows as much.
As far as the OC, im far from impressed, but I'm not writing him off yet. I don't think we've run more than 12 plays.

Then you need to watch his throws. Just like the one I was looking at to Croom this morning, he forces the slant WR to stop and catch the ball and does this all the time. We have three solid WRs who can go up and get the ball, yet can't seem to get them the ball down the field or don't try.

 

[knoxvol24]

Yeah, I've noticed that about Worley too... he never lets a receiver run under and pass, or catches them in stride... they almost always have to stop, do something acrobatic, or come back to catch a ball. Not trying to be down on Worley... he's probably the best option we have right now, but he is no great QB by any means. If he'd start hitting our receivers in stride... DOWN the field and not just along the sideline, but some nice deep post route's down the middle of the field, then maybe I'd consider him to be better than mediocre... but for now I guess what I'm saying is I agree... he's mediocre.


(edit)- And for the love of all things Holy, I wish they quit throwing that little receiver screen, or whatever its called (pass to the receiver along the line of scrimmage, sometimes there's another receiver in the area, sometimes not) It's more times than not goes for no gain and it sucks....

 

[triad280]

its a bubble screen,wr screen,etc...it has been called a few things...Von P scored his lone TD on that(and he should be the one getting most of these screen passes),Pig got most of his yardage on this same pass,but sometimes it does go for no yardage...but most of the time it will pick up 6 yards and leave you with 2nd and 4... thats staying ahead of the chains and sustains drives...

and Worley's throws have been spot on...some are saying about the acrobatic catches,most are back shoulder throws, thats exactly where they should be... the DB has no shot at knocking it down or picking it off... the only throws I've seen him look bad on are a few here and there where he doesnt step into the throw or throws it flat footed...but that has been maybe 3-4 times in the USU game and maybe 3-4 in the ASU game... some of the deep throws he needs to lead the wr more to the middle with air under it instead of trying to be perfect throwing it to the hash on a flatter trajectory...but when he misses,he misses where only his guy can get to it... he has played very well so far,especially when they get a rhythm going...

 

[KBVol]

Again with this stupid agenda concept. Throwing for a modest amount of yards against Utah State and Arkansas State is not impressive. We do this crap every year after we play the weaklings on our schedule instead of looking at how they played.

Any reasonable person looking at your comments after Worley's first 2 performances would conclude you've got an axe to grind. By the way.....

@Vol_Football: With 24.5 completions per game, @WorleyBird_14 is 3rd in the @SEC and 22nd in @ncaastats. He’s completing 64.5 pct. http://t.co/VSXxGYk3nY