2006 Football

[therealUT]

If for some reason you are trying to say last year we had a 5-6 team. I would love to see that explained as well...

Yes, objectively would be nice to see.

Last year we had a 5-6 team.

I don't think I could get more objective than that.

 

[hatvol96]

> Several consecutive # 1-7 recruited classes aligning.

> A very, very favorable schedule.

> Exposure to the new mystery Coaches of the SEC....uf's, LSU's, Ole Miss's, SC's (w very limited talent) etc.

Again EVERYTHING hinges on COACHING!

If you disagree, YOU need to answer the question.

If for some reason you are trying to say last year we had a 5-6 team. I would love to see that explained as well...

Yes, objectively would be nice to see.

To rehash my favorite Bill Parcells quote "You are what your record says you are." The next two NFL drafts are going to explode the myth that last year's Tennessee had all this talent. THe coaching staff is at fault, but that is because our recruiting in the post-Rodney Garner era has been great on paper, short on real NFL quality stars.

 

[dan4vols]

I'm just guessing here but I think what realvol is seeking is closure to a season which left us all with our heads shaking. By that I mean he thinks CPF never publicly admitted he and the staff did a poor job, like being silent on the issue would just make it go away. Real vol wants his pound of flesh from CPF. Our coach is human and maybe he did feel the best way to personally deal with the fans was to avoid the issue, maybe he did'nt know how to put into words the humiliation he felt personally and professionally....I feel thats between him and the AD.The way I feel about it is it was dissapointing but this season is a fresh start. I just hope.

 

[therealUT]

Concerning the issue of whether or not CPF publicly admitted that he did a poor job:

I know that CPF and staff sent a letter to each and every season ticket holder apologizing for the poor product they put on the field in 2005. I am not sure to what extent that letter went, however, a lot of coaches around the nation would not even make that effort.

Personally, I do not believe that RealVol will be satisfied until he sees heads roll at UT, regardless of how we do in 2006.

 

[dan4vols]

Concerning the issue of whether or not CPF publicly admitted that he did a poor job:

I know that CPF and staff sent a letter to each and every season ticket holder apologizing for the poor product they put on the field in 2005. I am not sure to what extent that letter went, however, a lot of coaches around the nation would not even make that effort.

Personally, I do not believe that RealVol will be satisfied until he sees heads roll at UT, regardless of how we do in 2006.

yeah I know its a dead horse issue, I was just trying to mediate :dunno:

 

[Taylor Moran]

did anyone notice D. Moreley playing receiver?

 

[jakez4ut]

did anyone notice D. Moreley playing receiver?

yep...interesting......the guy is a gamer.

 

[OWB]

Morley might become the next Mark Jones for us playing offense, defense and returning some kicks.

 

[jakez4ut]

> Several consecutive # 1-7 recruited classes aligning.

> A very, very favorable schedule.

> Exposure to the new mystery Coaches of the SEC....uf's, LSU's, Ole Miss's, SC's (w very limited talent) etc.

Again EVERYTHING hinges on COACHING!

If you disagree, YOU need to answer the question.

If for some reason you are trying to say last year we had a 5-6 team. I would love to see that explained as well...

Yes, objectively would be nice to see.

huh? do you have this in your clip board permantly, and just paste it randomly at various times in these threads?

Realvol, we get it. We all know how you feel. :fool:

 

[jakez4ut]

Morley might become the next Mark Jones for us playing offense, defense and returning some kicks.

that's what i was thinking......though i heard him say that he prefers to play DB.....but i doubt he'd turn down an opportunity to "show off" his talent.

 

[OWB]

You know, Mark Jones never gets a mention. He was a key player for us at times..

 

[jakez4ut]

He's in the NFL now isn't he? i seem to remember seeing him on a roster somwhere?

 

[GAVol]

He's a return specialist for somebody.

 

[OWB]

Isn't Jones playing for the Giants along with Gibril Wilson?

 

[OWB]

Isn't Jones playing for the Giants along with Gibril Wilson?

Scratch that, he plays for Tampa Bay..

 

[volmanjr]

Like I said, MOST have figured it out, admitted it and moved on. Maybe you should go exploring into last years threads. I'm just saying, what good does it do to say the same thing over and over and over and over on this board about the coaching? Do you just desperately want someone to agree with you? Fine, we all agree that UT Football hasn't been up to snuff the past few years, but there's nothing that we can do about it. You keep making the same posts as if it's all our fault. Don't lecture us for something that's out of our hands. Be Real..

AMEN!

 

[milohimself]

I go to UT, but grew up in the midwest, ie, Big XII country. So, I understand they don't hold the SEC in as high regard as most people in the South. However, the SEC is leaps and bounds better than the PAC-10, the Big East, and the old ACC.

Next, teams in every major conference regularly schedule non conference patsies. That is why the Texas-Ohio State game was such a big deal this year, because Texas wasn't playing 3 non conference teams, the best of which is North Texas (also insert OU there.)

True, USCs win over OU was one of the most dominating national championship performances in the history of college football championships (a whole 7 years&#33 However, that in no way makes it automatic that they would have even beaten that Auburn team. USC got to a very immobile Jason White early, threw him off his rythm, and the game was over. Jason Campbell, however, was more in the Vince Young mold, a QB that could throw and run. Oh, and Campbell had 2 more than capable RBs to hand the ball to, in Cadillac and Ronnie. Auburn would have matched up very well against that USC team, especially since L. White wasn't yet the factor that he was in 2005.

Again with the leaps and bounds over the Pac-10? I go back, once again, to Oregon State's and Arizona State's visits to LSU over the last two seasons. Twice a mediocre Pac-10 team comes into the house of the best 1-2 teams in the SEC and both times LSU escapes on complete miracles with special teams play despite being outplayed in every aspect. For any of you who watch poker, to quote Phil Helmuth, "A dominating second-place performance" and LSU escapes only by extreme luck... They were otherwise slapped around. That's just to prove a minor point though, I have, and will continue to concede the SEC as a clearly better conference than the Pac-10. I know this. Leaps and bounds? I doubt it. The top SEC teams play more cupcakes every year than any other top teams around the country. Between poor Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Ole Miss and Mississippi State teams, mediocre South Carolina and Arkansas teams and exceptionally weak non-conference scheduling, any decent team can sleep their way to a bowl game in the SEC.

Once again, no disrespect to the SEC... Just stating a generally accepted opinion, very strong at the top, very weak at the bottom and generally poor non-conference games.

He might be, but he wasn't paired with a mobile QB to give the USC defense fits.

Oh, and Peterson had a stellar outing in 2005, must have just been a sophomore slump, huh?

Only because Oklahoma was decamated by the 2005 NFL Draft. They really started to pull things together by the ended of the season. While Oregon was overrated to an extent in the Holiday Bowl because of the absence of an injured Kellen Clemens, Oklahoma was also a far better team than their record indicated. Stoops was really putting together a good set up for this season. Look for Oklahoma to run away with another Big XII title this season.

Oklahoma just signed up for series with Ohio State and Miami. Miami also signed up to play Ohio State and Texas A&M. The SEC simply lags behind in non conference scheduling. Too many games against the hyphenated LA schools. SEC ADs don't want to give up home dates. It's an issue of economics.

I'm not sure the reasoning behind this, but it does seem generally true. The one exception I do know of, that I like, is Tennessee. That's why I like the Vols, they usually have at least one pretty good non-conf opponnent where other SEC teams don't. Notre Dame the last couple years, Cal the next two coming years. Good stuff, props Vols.

That's my point you didn't see it. He had two of the best runs of the season in that game. He would have had several more carries, but he cut his head open on one of the really good runs.

Actually he got the head injury from celebrating with a teammate by butting helmets with eachother.

OUs quarterback play was pretty bad for the first 2/3 rds of the year. Watch what he does with a more mature Rhett Bomar at QB this year. Couldn't have been too bad, multiple NFL scouts were quoted before the Holiday Bowl saying he would have been a top 5 pick in this year's draft had he been eligible. Adrian Peterson is to Darren Sproles what Maserati is to KIA.

Once again, Oklahoma was decamated by the 2005 NFL Draft but Oklahoma was probably one of the 10 best-playing teams by the end of the season. They just weren't ranked as such because of the terribly slow start. Look for Oklahoma to take the Big XII Title in 2006.

Barring injury...not a chance. Sorry but Ainge is just flat out better right now. Crompton might develop into a better QB than Ainge before his playing days at UTK are over. Thats certainly possible. But, Ainge has the physical tools, he is coachable, and Cutcliffe says his fundamentals are already 100 times better than last season. And, he still has a whole summer of work to put in. I think we will be fine at QB. For all you that wanted to promote Crompton to superstar status before he went through a practice--you might want to think about the fact that Crompton is not even entrentched in the backup role. Cutcliffe spends more time raving about Bo Hardagree and they share 2nd team snaps.

Good to hear. Is Bo Hardegree playing that well??

Are you sure crompton is 100% back from shoulder surgery? I thought he was around 90%.

If Ainge is doing so much beter why is his numbers from the scrimmage almost identical to what he did last season?

Like OWB said, you're relying on the scrimmage too much, bro. Besides aren't the DB's supposedly playing exceptionally?

 

[IBleedOrange]

> Several consecutive # 1-7 recruited classes aligning.

> A very, very favorable schedule.

> Exposure to the new mystery Coaches of the SEC....uf's, LSU's, Ole Miss's, SC's (w very limited talent) etc.

Again EVERYTHING hinges on COACHING!

If you disagree, YOU need to answer the question.

If for some reason you are trying to say last year we had a 5-6 team. I would love to see that explained as well...

Yes, objectively would be nice to see.

#425....426.....427.......

 

[TheThrill]

If I'm not mistaken the LSU/ASU game was moved to ASU, because of Katrina. But you are correct, it took a great play to beat them in the end, ASU also gave USC all they could handle too. To me, LSU seems to be one of those schizo teams that you just can't predict.( i.e. last years UT game and the SEC champ.game) I also agree most SEC teams, UT not included, play pretty easy non-conference schedules, but our conference schedules more than make up for this. The Pac-10 or any other conferences teams, for that matter, just don't face the stiff competition and hostile environments SEC teams have to , week in and week out. There may be an aberration every so often, but historically the SEC is the best football conference.

 

[VOLracerx]

I see wath you are saying Milo - just not sure you are using the right exampls of LSU/ASU and the Oregon State game - As mentioned above there were enough distraction surrounding the ASU game. And if I am not mistaken - that OSU game was complicated greatly by an eerily similar rotating QB situation. I agree that Oregon State played way above their level in that game but LSU wasn't exactly playing to their normal level either.

As a whole the SEC puts more NC contenders out there EVERY year than the PAC -10 - I don't think anyone would argue with that.

The sooners should be pretty good this year - that I can agree with

 

[jakez4ut]

milo...referencing your non conf. SEC schedule comments.....ASU and OSU were par of LSU's non conf. schedule those two years....are you saying that those two teams brought the toughness of the schedule down?

because of late, the SEC (and i'll go ahead and agree that over all, there are some schedule padders in the SEC), has had it's fair share of good non conf. games.

Auburn recently played USC (the one from the left coast), as has Ark. you already mentioned LSU's two Pac 10 opponents, TN has had ND and CAL, Bama played Oklahoma, Vandy played Michigan UF and TN both just got done with a series against Miami, UF plays FSU every year, GA plays GA tech every year....USC plays Clemson every year....

just some recent examples of good non conf. opponents. And with that are the bad ones....many schools schedules are littered with the ULM, ULL, Citadel, Maine, Buffalo etc....of the world as well. so you got to take the good with the bad.....

Plus when you talk about the SEC, the middle of the SEC has gotten better, and the top is more cluttered now than ever. the bottom of the SEC really only includes MSU, Vandy and KY right now. I look for ARK and Ole Miss to both be better this year. ARk could finish as high as 2nd in the west if all goes well. Ole Miss is likely a 4th/5th place team in the West. But both of them are capable of beating Alabama this year.....

i know what you're saying....LEFT COAST BIAS!!!!!!!!!