2012 Recruiting Class is disappearing fast

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It kinda is a big deal but doesn't mean quite as much. Look at the last several classes under Fulmer beginning with the 01 class. Ranked high but didn't translate.
 
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We have been in one of the worst slumps ever but that ish has finally stopped with this years class. Need another year with six DL recruits and we will be alright.
 
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3 were JUCO transfers, so they would be expected to be gone by now, anyway.

1 was a UF commit that came here when he found out that he couldn't get into Florida, showed up fat, out of shape, and never did anything, anyway.

1 transferred a week after arriving on campus because Big Dan apparently hit him so hard that his butt went through his head.

1 was a guy that had a thing for Ipods, I guess.

1 didn't want to play football or go to college anymore, so he moved home to ATL.

1 went to USU because he didn't like the coaching change. This sort of thing is expected when there is a change of staff.

A couple of others transferred because they were recruited over/didn't pan out, but this happens to almost every class at every big program.

The majority of those left will likely contribute a good amount this year.

Edit: Totally forgot about Justin Meredith. Nobody would have guessed that his hamstring would have caused a permanent issue and he would never play again.
 
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#VFL__ said:
We have been in one of the worst slumps ever but that ish has finally stopped with this years class. Need another year with six DL recruits and we will be alright.
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Yes thankfully we are just one more class away from being really competitive and hopefully two classes away from being a real contender in the SEC. I am still amazed when I look back at these classes how truly awful they were. I'm speaking more to the attrition and not as a knock on our current players. Well that and the fact that in the 2012 class we signed a grand total of 0 offensive linemen.
 
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I laughed when I saw Cordarrelle's name on the list with only 4 stars next to it. Probably fair at the time, but after his time here I feel like he should have had at least 6.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
3 were JUCO transfers, so they would be expected to be gone by now, anyway.

1 was a UF commit that came here when he found out that he couldn't get into Florida, showed up fat, out of shape, and never did anything, anyway.

1 transferred a week after arriving on campus because Big Dan apparently hit him so hard that his butt went through his head.

1 was a guy that had a thing for Ipods, I guess.

1 didn't want to play football or go to college anymore, so he moved home to ATL.

1 went to USU because he didn't like the coaching change. This sort of thing is expected when there is a change of staff.

A couple of others transferred because they were recruited over/didn't pan out, but this happens to almost every class at every big program.

The majority of those left will likely contribute a good amount this year.
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We took a bunch of high risk low reward guys (save for CP of course) because they were easy to get and Dooley didn't have to work hard to get them. No matter how you look at it 8-9 of the players that have already left the program contributed very little. That makes for a very bad class.

I'm sorry but I only see 4 maybe 5 players that will likely contribute this year with only 2 of them being starters.
 
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Lizzard28 said:
I laughed when I saw Cordarrelle's name on the list with only 4 stars next to it. Probably fair at the time, but after his time here I feel like he should have had at least 6.
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I guess he was rated purely as a receiver but dude was a 5 star once he had the ball in his hands that's for sure. It sure would have been awesome to see him more then one year and develop as a receiver.

I really feel bad for Pearson if anyone actually expects him to be CP with the ball in his hands. VP may be good but CP was well CP.
 
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GLDunlap said:
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Thanks for the rundown but you pretty much made my point. We took a bunch of high risk low reward guys because they were easy to get and Dooley didn't have to work hard to get them.

I'm sorry but I only see 4 maybe 5 players that will likely contribute this year. Who are you thinking will?
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Just to clarify. I wasn't really trying to combat what you were saying. I was just pointing out that 20% of that signing class was made up of JUCO players and other SEC teams rejects before even looking into everything else.

Due to a lack of depth I would expect to see all of these guys get some playing time this year out of necessity. Players in front of them will get hurt, too.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
Just to clarify. I wasn't really trying to combat what you were saying. I was just pointing out that 20% of that signing class was made up of JUCO players and other SEC teams rejects before even looking into everything else.

Due to a lack of depth I would expect to see all of these guys get some playing time this year out of necessity. Players in front of them will get hurt, too.
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It's cool man even if you were. It's just a discussion and actually a very good summation of the class on your part. No hurt feelings here either way I hope.
 
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GLDunlap said:
It's cool man even if you were. It's just a discussion and actually a very good summation of the class on your part. No hurt feelings here either way I hope.
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we're all good, dude. It takes more than a conversation about football to hurt my feelings, anyway.
 
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GLDunlap said:
I know I'm being Captain Obvious but this class is starting Rival the 2009 class. We've had 50% attrition already and I only see two players that will be starters this fall. This was a top 20 class. :crazy:

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Tennessee Commitments
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It's apparent that Butch's staff doesn't hold Dooley's ability to evaluate talent in very high regard, we will continue to see more attrition as Butch's players get more experience. There will be additional players from 2012 want out.
 
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Lizzard28 said:
I laughed when I saw Cordarrelle's name on the list with only 4 stars next to it. Probably fair at the time, but after his time here I feel like he should have had at least 6.
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I have never seen a better playmaker ever at UT, he would have touched the ball at least 25 times per game if I were the coach. Even if I had to line him up at QB, that's what I would have done. Just give him the ball and watch him make people look really slow, and poor tacklers, that's what he does.

He is an amazing talent, and even when UT played Bama, he was the best player on the field, UT just didn't get him the ball enough!
 
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Most of them were gone after the first year.

Yet we still have posters on here claiming "everyone has attrition". I doubt many teams lost half of a recruiting class within two years.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
3 were JUCO transfers, so they would be expected to be gone by now, anyway.

1 was a UF commit that came here when he found out that he couldn't get into Florida, showed up fat, out of shape, and never did anything, anyway.

1 transferred a week after arriving on campus because Big Dan apparently hit him so hard that his butt went through his head.

1 was a guy that had a thing for Ipods, I guess.

1 didn't want to play football or go to college anymore, so he moved home to ATL.

1 went to USU because he didn't like the coaching change. This sort of thing is expected when there is a change of staff.

A couple of others transferred because they were recruited over/didn't pan out, but this happens to almost every class at every big program.

The majority of those left will likely contribute a good amount this year.

Edit: Totally forgot about Justin Meredith. Nobody would have guessed that his hamstring would have caused a permanent issue and he would never play again.
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Brilliant!
 
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Vol8188 said:
Most of them were gone after the first year.

Yet we still have posters on here claiming "everyone has attrition". I doubt many teams lost half of a recruiting class within two years.
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That's doubtful. But, you can't sign 25 prospects every year without attrition in your program.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
3 were JUCO transfers, so they would be expected to be gone by now, anyway.

1 was a UF commit that came here when he found out that he couldn't get into Florida, showed up fat, out of shape, and never did anything, anyway.

1 transferred a week after arriving on campus because Big Dan apparently hit him so hard that his butt went through his head.

1 was a guy that had a thing for Ipods, I guess.

1 didn't want to play football or go to college anymore, so he moved home to ATL.

1 went to USU because he didn't like the coaching change. This sort of thing is expected when there is a change of staff.

A couple of others transferred because they were recruited over/didn't pan out, but this happens to almost every class at every big program.

The majority of those left will likely contribute a good amount this year.

Edit: Totally forgot about Justin Meredith. Nobody would have guessed that his hamstring would have caused a permanent issue and he would never play again.
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Good summation. All classes typically have a certain level of attrition for various reasons, but at the end of the day you hope that half wind up being pretty strong contributors to the program.

2012 was particularly bad because, as we all know, we didn't sign a single OL.

Furthermore, if you look at who's left from that class, it looks even worse. By my estimation, we should only expect any significant contribution (defined as taking significant snaps in the 2 deep on O or D) from only two players of the 22 originally from that class...Jason Croom and Danny O'Brien. Bullock did the place kicking in the Spring, but freshman Aaron Medley will likely supplant him in the Fall.

Perhaps Kenny Bynum or LaTroy Lewis will pick up beyond how they played in the Spring, but it's more than fair to say that they have been recruited over and won't see much time outside of maybe Special Teams. That leaves Peterman, Bowles, Blanc and perhaps, on an outside chance, Pig Howard if he comes back.

That means that 3 seasons later, when you need to rely heavily on that class's talent and leadership, we have 2 guys we can expect that from. And let's be honest, Danny O'Brien plays hard but he's just not talented enough to do more than provide depth at the DT position.

So, arguably only 2 of the 22 members of the 2012 class seem to project as strong contributors this year, or 9% of that class. One a backup DT, one as the 4th WR.
 
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This has been the story since the Kiffin Class...no one from his year panned out, maybe one or two.. then into the Dooley years, MR.. we don't need no stinking OL... And we wonder why so many try to point this out when talking about the truly amazing Job that Jones did last year. It is because you have to factor that in when evaluating his performance. The people saying jury is still out on his coaching ability, really have no idea how hard it is to compete with half of a team. And then to beat a TOP10?? cmon, even the Nega's have to give it up.. CBJ gets it. Get on the bus now or go away...
 
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The attrition numbers Looks like we self imposed NCAA sanctions, when we were actually Doolized.

I guess you could say, We were fined 5.3 mil because of our buyout to Dooley.

We pay people not to coach here more than we pay them to coach here. (Fulmer, Dooley)
 
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Sudden Impact said:
The attrition numbers Looks like we self imposed NCAA sanctions, when we were actually Doolized.

I guess you could say, We were fined 5.3 mil because of our buyout to Dooley.

We pay people not to coach here more than we pay them to coach here. (Fulmer, Dooley)
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Dooley sucked but any of us would've taken the ridiculous deal he did. You could certainly say the program was "Dooleyized"....I think in regards to the bad contracts we were "Hamiltonized"
 
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gunner said:
I have never seen a better playmaker ever at UT, he would have touched the ball at least 25 times per game if I were the coach. Even if I had to line him up at QB, that's what I would have done. Just give him the ball and watch him make people look really slow, and poor tacklers, that's what he does.

He is an amazing talent, and even when UT played Bama, he was the best player on the field, UT just didn't get him the ball enough!
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Not disagreeing with you completely on CP and, this may have been before your time, but Carl Pickens was every bit as electric on offense and KR and he dabbled at DB as well.

It's close but I still think I like Pickens better.
 
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