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#552
#552
cncchris33 said:
I’m gonna educate you since our school system has failed to do so.

1. Research. Research my post history and you’ll find I have given Barnes nothing but the benefit of the doubt and have been one of his biggest supporters.

2. Jerry Green brought in tons of talent. Tony Harris, Ron Slay, Vincent Yarbrough, Isiah Victor to name a few. Pearl had numerous top 100 players...Tyler Smith, Duke Crews, Ramar Smith, Jordan McRae, Kenny Hall, Emmanuel Negedu, Trae Golden, Jerome Maymon, etc. Cuonzo Martin got Jarnell Stokes and Robert Hubbs. Again, do some research.

3. I’m not complaining. Just stating facts and spinning ideas about why this staff isn’t landing elite players. It doesn’t mean we cant win without them.

McRae was top 100, maybe top 50, actually, but was a Pearl recruit who was in the same class as Josh Selby, before Selby decommitted.
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I thought that O'Neill had Isiah Victor on the roster. Dickey wouldn't green light him to play because of possible irregularities which lead directly to KO running off to Northwestern in a huff.
 
#553
#553
Lefteye said:
47th nationally through rivals and 9th at his position is pretty highly rated.
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Then it was coaching malpractice by Pearl for sitting McRae for a single minute while putting Junior on the floor. Seems like McRae was in Pearl's doghouse that year.
 
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Lefteye said:
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Hmm okay.
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I doubt that Michigan would have put a 30 point beat down on CBP in his finale had Pearl not raised his ethical standards and benched JM while sliding Stephen Effing Pearl into a regular spot. If McRae was a top 50, WTF was Junior doing on the court at all while McRae languished in the dog house?
 
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#556
Thunder Good-Oil said:
I doubt that Michigan would have put a 30 point beat down on CBP in his finale had Pearl not raised his ethical standards and benched JM while sliding Stephen Effing Pearl into a regular spot. If McRae was a top 50, WTF was Junior doing on the court at all while McRae languished in the dog house?
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I’m not going to try to change your anti Pearl mind. But it could be possible it had ZERO to do with ethical standards and more that McRae, despite his ranking, just wasn’t ready for a ton of minutes. And he could benefit more from watching at that time. But I’m cool with agreeing to disagree tho.
 
#557
#557
Having been a father who coached and/or played on his son's team a few times, there is no way to win. If you play your son, or pass to your son, the griping starts.

Now don't get me wrong. If he always started his son it would have been different, but I think he knew what he would get from him, and used him in those instances where he thought it would help the team win. I'm not saying there couldn't have been some unintended bias on occasion, but I don't think he played him when he thought it would hurt the team.

Just my opinion based on experience with a similar situation.
 
#558
#558
Lefteye said:
I’m not going to try to change your anti Pearl mind. But it could be possible it had ZERO to do with ethical standards and more that McRae, despite his ranking, just wasn’t ready for a ton of minutes. And he could benefit more from watching at that time. But I’m cool with agreeing to disagree tho.
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If that's the case then Pearl did a chitty job coaching JM up. It's not like Pearl played a complicated brand of basketball. But JM wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed either.

BTW, the VN upgrade doesn't replace my bad words with **** anymore. That sux.
 
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#559
Thunder Good-Oil said:
If that's the case then Pearl did a chitty job coaching JM up. It's not like Pearl played a complicated brand of basketball. But JM wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed either.

BTW, the VN upgrade doesn't replace my bad words with **** anymore. That sux.
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He probably did. We’ve had tons of chitty coaches get us to #1 in the land.
 
#560
#560
Junior: 381 minutes

Jordy: 53 minutes

It's worse than I remembered it. Zero excuse for a top 50 recruit playing 5 minutes per game in 10 games while Effing Pearl averaged 10+ minutes per game. Bruce must have known that he was going to get blown out and abused his position to get the kid more minutes than he was worth.
 
#561
#561
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Junior: 381 minutes

Jordy: 53 minutes

It's worse than I remembered it. Zero excuse for a top 50 recruit playing 5 minutes per game in 10 games while Effing Pearl averaged 10+ minutes per game. Bruce must have known that he was going to get blown out and abused his position to get the kid more minutes than he was worth.
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Nvm
 
#562
#562
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Junior: 381 minutes

Jordy: 53 minutes

It's worse than I remembered it. Zero excuse for a top 50 recruit playing 5 minutes per game in 10 games while Effing Pearl averaged 10+ minutes per game. Bruce must have known that he was going to get blown out and abused his position to get the kid more minutes than he was worth.
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Nvm
 
#563
#563
Lefteye said:
Pearl Jr was 07-10, and McRae didn’t get here until 10.
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McCrae didn't play early because he wasn't interested in playing defense. Most had given up on him by his Jr season when he finally woke up.
 
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#564
calban said:
McCrae didn't play early because he wasn't interested in playing defense. Most had given up on him by his Jr season when he finally woke up.
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Agree. You have it with him, I’m getting too old and tired. Haha
 
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calban said:
McCrae didn't play early because he wasn't interested in playing defense. Most had given up on him by his Jr season when he finally woke up.
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McRae didn't play late. 8 minutes in 3 games January-March. A top 50, 4 star recruit on a 19-15 team. That season was a cluster ****. If it wasn't blatant nepotism, CBP should have played JM for developmental reasons. Instead Junior was getting lots of minutes.
 
#566
#566
Man, I totally forgot how highly-rated McRae was. Thanks for correcting that, I was wrong both on that and Cuonzo getting him. Totally forgot Pearl stupidly didn't play him much.
 
#567
#567
Per twitter Tennessee will be by Dekeyvan Tandy’s school next week to do a visit...so Josiah James, Jalen Lecque, KyKy Tandy and Issac McBride all seem to still be in play.
 
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#568
Thunder Good-Oil said:
I thought that O'Neill had Isiah Victor on the roster. Dickey wouldn't green light him to play because of possible irregularities which lead directly to KO running off to Northwestern in a huff.
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Victor was a FR in Jerry Green's first season. Maybe he redshirted in O'Neill's final year, though.
 
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#569
Thunder Good-Oil said:
McRae didn't play late. 8 minutes in 3 games January-March. A top 50, 4 star recruit on a 19-15 team. That season was a cluster ****. If it wasn't blatant nepotism, CBP should have played JM for developmental reasons. Instead Junior was getting lots of minutes.
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McRae had attitude problems, issues with a total lack of strength and an inability to add weight, and wasnt ready for major minutes as a freshman. Think Jalen Johnson in terms of body makeup. Nepotism or not, Jordy wasn't ready physically. He needed that year of development away from the court. His sophomore season saw him struggle with consistency. He would have a 15 point outburst one night, and go 0-6 the next. It wasn't until midway thru his junior year did he really put it all together. He was just one of this guys that needed developmental time to reach his potential. JRich was similar. Both guys were 4 year player who got better every year.
 
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#570
cncchris33 said:
McRae had attitude problems, issues with a total lack of strength and an inability to add weight, and wasnt ready for major minutes as a freshman. Think Jalen Johnson in terms of body makeup. Nepotism or not, Jordy wasn't ready physically. He needed that year of development away from the court. His sophomore season saw him struggle with consistency. He would have a 15 point outburst one night, and go 0-6 the next. It wasn't until midway thru his junior year did he really put it all together. He was just one of this guys that needed developmental time to reach his potential. JRich was similar. Both guys were 4 year player who got better every year.
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JRich played some very good defense as a freshman forward. It was his offense that took off in his last year and a half.

JM was a top 50 recruit that had his redshirt opportunity burned and then he was relegated to the bench. 8 minutes in 3 games through the entire SEC schedule plus the post season. No wonder he had a bad attitude. Stephen Pearl had a ****ty attitude as well, but didn't sit. Pearl's 6th year was coaching incompetence. Dead man walking I guess and he was going to squeeze every last penny out of UT that he could and get Junior plenty of experience. Too bad he wasn't fired a season sooner. An EE buys a lot of rope and he ultimately hung himself. Had he started his show case after the 5th season instead of the 6th even I might have been an advocate of bringing him back after sitting in Time Out for 3 years.

IMO JM is a perfect example of Pearl's tenure. Pearl collected guys with skills that the blue bloods couldn't take a chance with. Chism is probably a huge exception. I don't know if he had any character defects before he got to UT, but he was an outstanding player and solid representative of UT over his entire career. I don't recall anything negative with Weezy. Can't say the same with Pearl's other big dog recruits... Duke, Ramar, Tyler.

Barnes is taking a totally different track and I'm loving it. I hope that he can keep landing the right players even if there aren't 4 or 5 stars next to their names.
 
#571
#571
Cam Tatum had pretty much the same physicality as McRae but averaged more than 10 mpg his first freshman year and more than 18 in his second freshman year.
 
#572
#572
bleedingTNorange said:
Per VQ Josiah James has cancelled his OV to Michigan State, so he will visit Tennessee(this weekend), Clemson and Duke over the next 3 weeks and then likely decide before October.

Jalen Lecque has scheduled an official visit to Tennessee for next weekend.
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So...How did the visit go? Haven't heard a word... Not over yet?
 
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