2020 Presidential Race

I love how the useful pawns on both sides crow about spending as if either of them have one scintilla of nobility. Anybody possessing one iota of honesty would only look on what their side adds to the debt our offspring will be burdened by and be disgusted.

Remember the cold war and mutually assured destruction? Instead of "if you shoot, we'll destroy you", the government spending to harvest votes is "whatever you spend to pull in votes, I'll go higher." The difference is nobody fired the first nuke in the original MAD nuthouse. Maybe we just have to pick members out of the air because we can't afford what they do to get elected/reelected.
 
Biden’s health is seriously something to be concerned about.

The Democrats couldn’t have picked a worse candidate to force their personal agenda on America.

Trump isn’t a saint but he’s not a weak leader either. Shouldn’t be that hard of a choice.
 
Biden’s health is seriously something to be concerned about.

The Democrats couldn’t have picked a worse candidate to force their personal agenda on America.

Trump isn’t a saint but he’s not a weak leader either. Shouldn’t be that hard of a choice.

Yea but feelings
 
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I am an independent voter, neither Repub, nor Dem. I refused to vote for President last year due to an inability to give either a thumbs up. With that said, having seen the Democrat approval of riots, looting, lockdowns, etc... Having seen them threatening to pack the courts, etc... I voted for Donald Trump as well as voting right down the R line. It wasn't a vote for Republicans. It was a vote against the radical left Democrats.

From the sounds of it so far, it sounds like much of the turnout today will be moderate America saying "NO!" to the direction of the Democrat party.
You just summarized my vote perfectly.
 
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I am an independent voter, neither Repub, nor Dem. I refused to vote for President last year due to an inability to give either a thumbs up. With that said, having seen the Democrat approval of riots, looting, lockdowns, etc... Having seen them threatening to pack the courts, etc... I voted for Donald Trump as well as voting right down the R line. It wasn't a vote for Republicans. It was a vote against the radical left Democrats.

From the sounds of it so far, it sounds like much of the turnout today will be moderate America saying "NO!" to the direction of the Democrat party.

Here's the question though....

IF Trump is able to beat the liberals, their propaganda MSM, RINOs, the deep state, FBI, CIA, etc ....strongly rejecting their crazy ideology for more conservative policies...

Will they change their platform, or double down on stupid and head even FURTHER left like the socialists and morons want them to.....same as they did in 2016????

My money is on doubling down...the inmates appear to be running the asylum.
 
Letting Harris take over prior to the midterms ensures the Rs win both houses in 2022 and she could only run 1 time.
I guess there is a silver lining. I'm not sure I'll survive another democrat administration. I literally treaded water for 8 years. I don't know if I care enough to do it again. I'm too close to retirement.
 
Neither candidate is ideal. However, I view Trump as a bulwark against what the left is wanting to do to this country. Kamala Harris has stated in a narrated video the she believes in government creating equal outcomes. That is basically overt Marxism. This is the left's vision for the country, and it scares the crap out of me.
 
I am an independent voter, neither Repub, nor Dem. I refused to vote for President last year due to an inability to give either a thumbs up. With that said, having seen the Democrat approval of riots, looting, lockdowns, etc... Having seen them threatening to pack the courts, etc... I voted for Donald Trump as well as voting right down the R line. It wasn't a vote for Republicans. It was a vote against the radical left Democrats.

From the sounds of it so far, it sounds like much of the turnout today will be moderate America saying "NO!" to the direction of the Democrat party.
^^^ all of this is why I finally registered to vote this year. My family was not into politics, so I never saw voting as something that mattered. But, I've seen enough, just this year, to make me want to do my part. I'm 45 years old and my first vote ever was for Donald J. Trump. I hope there's a whole lot more like me that did the exact same thing.
 
The Republicans had a debt clock on stage at the RNC just 8 short years ago.

The party not in power is the party of fiscal conservatism.

You can pretend all you want that the "conservative" party just lost its soul, but the reality is the conservative soul was stolen. If you offer the voter nothing, most won't vote for you; so the congressional position goes to the other side and you have no chance whatsoever of recovery or doing anything to stop the bleeding. It's simply a no win situation with no fix in sight. Spend like the other side to buy votes or do nothing and leave it all to the other side. We're at the point when citizens of a democracy learned how to drain the coffers - we just had to turn the middlemen in our case.
 
Guess I'm fringe in FL

The only Florida independent I know went Libertarian in the end, but independents are definitely all over the spectrum.

Talking heads always talk about them like they are all lined up on the political 50 yard line, but some of them are standing outside in the parking lot screaming that the party they tend to vote for isn't radical enough.
 
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