2020 Presidential Race

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GoBigOrangeUT said:
They’re not even done counting! How can you claim fraud when you can still win? Jesus Christ it’s not that hard.
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Well... And I know this sounds extreme, but... If they'd detected fraud.

Now, answer my question if you don't mind. You said that "nothing" so far has implied that the courts should need to be involved. You have better insight into that negative-proof than Trump's campaign?
 
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TrueOrange said:
I think you might have confused the “challengers” and the “observers.”

The challengers are the ones that members of both state parties select and approve before the election to make sure the ballots are counted fairly/correctly. They’re about 150 in number and are in there with the ballot counters (along with lawyers from both parties) and watching the ballots, and are still there with the ballot counters at this point in time.

The “observers” are the people allowed outside of the room (there are windows allowing people to look inside), and it sounded like there might not really be a number limit (but I’m not sure). However, by state law, observers - unlike the Republicans’ and Democratics’ challengers - aren’t actually allowed to enter the room or interact with what’s going on in the room or the people in it. In fact, if they try both Republican and Democrat lawyers stop them immediately, and if they continue the police force them to leave.
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No , no Republican challengers have been allowed to watch the counting. This is what one of the lawsuits is about. They were not close enough to see if there were signatures and if the president choice was correctly recorded. The only thing they could see if the ballot was place in a invalid box but then were not able to see if it was a D or R ballot. This is a flawed system and open to bias from the poll worker. What checks are balances are in place? Are the checks and balances administered by individuals from both parties?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yeah there had been all kinds of innuendo but if the GOP gets out foxed politically in a state they control from the top down they own that all by themselves.
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Doesn't matter who is at the top, the work is always done by the people way down the line. It's simply the way bureaucracies roll - especially government type bureaucracies. That thing about intelligence agencies having multiple ways to screw you over - goes for all bureaucracies. Beware of the public sector trade unions.
 
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