2020 Presidential Race

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Orangeslice13 said:
I know several numbers guys. One is a big time Biden supporter. They are all saying this looks bad.
I’ll wait to see how it turns out as it’s outside my area of expertise.
I will say that if it’s true then it’s going to be a major **** show. This wouldn’t flip the election to trump. It would invalidate it and we’d get to do it all over again.
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Your "several numbers guys" are not going to override the professional opinion of The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, who have already referred to the 2020 Presidential election as being, in their words: "The most secure election in history." This agency also added some very strong language to that assessment with this line:

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised." - The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (November 12, 2020)

There is nothing left to turn out. The results were completely valid. There is no "major **** show". We are not doing anything all over again. We had a completely free and fair election and now we have a clear winner by way of valid results, which have been verified with a thorough investigation.

That winner is Joe Biden.

You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
 
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carlos86 said:
Man let me te

lf only you knew how many times SECDEF Mattis lied to or disobey an order from Trump to prevent reckless dangerous actions. DoD officials are doing their jobs defending American national security interests and I hope they continue doing so for another 67 days.
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Not the way this is supposed to work. Rather terrifying actually. Why was the esteemed Mattis fired anyways?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I know several numbers guys. One is a big time Biden supporter. They are all saying this looks bad.
I’ll wait to see how it turns out as it’s outside my area of expertise.
I will say that if it’s true then it’s going to be a major **** show. This wouldn’t flip the election to trump. It would invalidate it and we’d get to do it all over again.
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We wouldn't do it again. My understanding is that state legislators would vote on our behalf.
 
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VolStrom said:
So what you are saying is **** you middle america and your 70 million votes because we won and we'll do what we want?
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That is not what I'm saying at all. Trump claimed a landslide victory in 2016. This dwarfs that landslide.
Trump claimed a mandate and portrayed the left as the enemy.
Biden has a far greater mandate but will not demonize the Trump supporters.
Trump turned his back on blue states and big cities while insulting and threatening them.
Biden will never act as childish and petty.
 
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AM64 said:
It's always about bureaucracies. Bureaucracies aren't run by people at the top; they have their own agenda. If the bureaucracy's agenda coincides with elected officials and their representatives, then it appears they are subservient; if not, they say one thing and do another. Bureaucracy rules are all about preservation, growth, funding, etc - the published mission is secondary and way down the ladder.
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That is what Dems want. Luther has admitted as much. A gov of unelected and TRULY unaccountable....Maybe elections do not have consequences unless it upsets the real apple cart
 
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lostsheep said:
Oh my. Is it too late to go back and change my vote to trump?? I voted for him initially but some chump in the voting center marked it out and wrote in Biden’s name for crying out loud!!
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You know it’s serious business from a reputable journalist when the headline is that it will “break liberals hearts”.
 
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lostsheep said:
Oh my. Is it too late to go back and change my vote to trump?? I voted for him initially but some chump in the voting center marked it out and wrote in Biden’s name for crying out loud!!
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I bet he was a carnival barker in a previous life, or a snake oil salesman.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
We wouldn't do it again. My understanding is that state legislators would vote on our behalf.
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Yeah... I'm sure your assessment is more astute than that of The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, and it will be totally necessary to invalidate the results from "the most secure election in history,".

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised."

How does a professional assessment following an investigation get any more clear than that?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah... I'm sure your assessment is more astute than that of The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, and it will be totally necessary to invalidate the results from "the most secure election in history,".

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised."

How does a professional assessment following an investigation get any more clear than that?
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Wow. You really don't read the posts you reply to, do you? Or is English a second language for you?
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Refuse to allow Biden access to necessary resources in regards to National security.
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Biden is a known leaker; he has never been able to keep his mouth zipped when it comes to state secrets. Not much anybody can do while he has control, but if I were Trump I certainly wouldn't let Biden anywhere near sensitive information. That's just common sense on Trump's part.
 
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carlos86 said:
Man let me te

lf only you knew how many times SECDEF Mattis lied to or disobey an order from Trump to prevent reckless dangerous actions. DoD officials are doing their jobs defending American national security interests and I hope they continue doing so for another 67 days.
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If Mattis lied to the President and/or defied his orders which you have no ****ing idea whether he did or not he should have been fired and possibly prosecuted. Dod officials ARE NOT doing their jobs when they lie to or defy the commander in chiefs legal orders. I know you are reserves but even in the reserves you should know better than this.
 
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I'm pretty satisfied with the election, I predicted Biden would win...missed two state (AZ GA) nailed the Senate +1 and honestly don't care if they get to 50/50 its almost impossible to move anything thru there with filibuster rules. I'm ecstatic the way the House election went...the GOP still has a shot to go +16 and there hasn't been a single loss for a GOP incumbent...this will be an interesting session...every small caucus has a voice Justice Socialists and Blue Dogs...I'm curious if it ends up like 222-213 if 5 of the BDs might change parties
 
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1972 Grad said:
They probably don't want to be identified and terrorized by your people while they are at home.
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“There’s a non-zero number of people in the room,” the Trump campaign attorney replied.

“I’m asking you as a member of the bar of this court,” Diamond said. “Are people representing the plaintiffs in that room?”

“Yes,” the lawyer replied.

I assume that part in bold is something a lawyer doesn't want to hear from a judge and that's why they're quitting.
 
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