2020 Presidential Race

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Orangeburst said:
Yeah thats it

Quinnipiac Poll: 77% of Republicans believe there was widespread fraud in the presidential election; 60% overall consider Joe Biden’s victory legitimate - Hartford Courant
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What does such a poll really tell us? That people who voted for Biden think it was a legitimate outcome, while the people who voted for Trump, tend to believe whatever nonsense he spouts - regardless of how unsubstantiated it is.

This forum serves as a prime example of that. None of his apologists on here even care that Fox News (of all places) has just recently debunked one of the primary voter fraud theories involving the voting systems, Dominion and Smartmatic, because they are scared of being sued. Talk show hosts such as Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo, and Jeanine Pirro have all aired a video involving an objective voting systems expert who thoroughly de-bunked their own claims of fraud. You should take a look at that Eddie Perez video... that is basically what has happened to all of the stupid claims of fraud - completely debunked.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
In what way is Mr Trump a fascist?
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Trump's ideology doesn't meet the definition of fascism.... at least not yet. However, his term isn't over. If Trump were to attempt to use the United States military as a means of retaining power, following a defeat in an election... well, that would be about as fascist as a government leader can get.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump's ideology doesn't meet the definition of fascism.... at least not yet. However, his term isn't over. If Trump were to attempt to use the United States military as a means of retaining power, following a defeat in an election... well, that would be about as fascist as a government leader can get.
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If ands and buts...
 
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AM64 said:
That's simply the flip side of the question. You have no evidence to prove that elections are more secure than at any other time in the past. In fact, voting by mail without ID checks would say it's demonstrably less secure than voting in person - there's no proof of who requested the ballot (if a request was necessary), who received the ballot, who filled in the ballot, or who returned the ballot because it lacks the witness who verifies that he/she verified the photo ID when handing the person a ballot in a secure location, that the person was alone and alone received the ballot, and then another witness to determine that an individual on leaving fed exactly one ballot into the tabulator. The mail in process from a security perspective was BS from the start.
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Luther is a hack.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Trump's ideology doesn't meet the definition of fascism.... at least not yet. However, his term isn't over. If Trump were to attempt to use the United States military as a means of retaining power, following a defeat in an election... well, that would be about as fascist as a government leader can get.
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Trump makes no secret of his desire for unconstitutional powers. Without others saying a hard "No" to him, he would become a fascist dictator. He is trying to overturn an election, for crying out loud, for one reason only -- he lost.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Prison for those who try to usurp the election result. Its a form of coup. Any Congressperson, Pence, or Trump who takes an affirmative step to prevent the peaceful transfer of power on 1/6 or thereafter MUST BE CRIMINALLY CHARGED and tried and convicted, and sent to prison.
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Charged with what?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Prison for those who try to usurp the election result. Its a form of coup. Any Congressperson, Pence, or Trump who takes an affirmative step to prevent the peaceful transfer of power on 1/6 or thereafter MUST BE CRIMINALLY CHARGED and tried and convicted, and sent to prison.
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It would be a terrible look and terrible, but there is nothing illegal about congressional challenges on certification day. It's all legally spelled out.
 
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volfanhill said:
It would be a terrible look and terrible, but there is nothing illegal about congressional challenges on certification day. It's all legally spelled out.
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Its gone too far. You've got allies of Trump proposing military intervention into the election. And he's inviting them to the WH. He has tried to get the states to upend their results. He viciously attacks any Republican who dare not pledge their dying fealty to him.

They must be persuaded that its in their own best interests not to abide this any longer. Charge them and arrest them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Its gone too far. You've got allies of Trump proposing military intervention into the election. And he's inviting them to the WH. He has tried to get the states to upend their results. He viciously attacks any Republican who dare not pledge their dying fealty to him.

They must be persuaded that its in their own best interests not to abide this any longer. Charge them and arrest them.
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