2020 Presidential Race

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Grand Vol said:
Basically, it averages out to 40% of Americans believed there was fraud in the election. Higher for Republicans obviously.

I want to believe I heard that on Fox the other day. Bash away for bringing up Fox News, but it's not the same Fox it was a few months ago.
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Yep. It's much better now
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Nobody is saying number 1. The point is, if you didn’t condemn Antifa or BLM or worse you excused and defended them, you’re being a hypocrite for condemning what happened at the capital. The numerous examples are the media and leftist politicians who were praising or bailing out antifa after their arrests while referring to those at the capital as domestic terrorists. It’s hypocrisy.

If you were referring to my posts, it is extraordinarily amazing that you didn’t see that
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Many were "shares" that gave no in depth explanation, no idea if they were yours or not. I just pick a page to start and read back or forth as necessary. Or ask to save time.
As I said, I hadn't read all the posts and also clearly stated that I might reach further explanation.
Perhaps you didn't see that part. I'll forgo adding the "extraordinarily amazing" descriptive as it seems unnecessary for legitimate questions.

But the bigger question was, (I can just see as I catch up) did those that jumped and labeled the violent/vandalistic scum part of the BLM protests, do the same to these DC punks? Or are they yelling "hypocrisy" while doing the exact same?
 
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chargervol said:
Many were "shares" that gave no in depth explanation, no idea if they were yours or not. I just pick a page to start and read back or forth as necessary. Or ask to save time.
As I said, I hadn't read all the posts and also clearly stated that I might reach further explanation.
Perhaps you didn't see that part. I'll forgo adding the "extraordinarily amazing" descriptive as it seems unnecessary for legitimate questions.

But the bigger question was, (I can just see as I catch up) did those that jumped and labeled the violent/vandalistic scum part of the BLM protests, do the same to these DC punks? Or are they yelling "hypocrisy" while doing the exact same?
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I did. but thus far I have seen many who did not condemn antifa/blm who are condemning the riot at the capital.
 
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evillawyer said:
I agree with this.
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Uh huh. What Joe wants is the old GOP back - the old style, stodgy, don't ruffle feathers GOP that was getting it's butt kicked routinely. He doesn't care much for the newer GOP that learned some new tricks from the dims. He wants the old types who were too good to get down in the mud with the dims and beat them at their own game. Unfortunately when Trump leaves, the GOP will probably return to what Joe wants. I am constantly amazed that liars like Joe can stand in front of a crowd, tell them lies, and they lap it up.
 
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utvolpj said:
Believing there was fraud somewhere and believing there was enough to overturn an election are 2 radically different ideas. I think it's inevitable there was some fraud somewhere but it never reached a critical level like Trump is claiming to get more money from supporters
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Depending on what you call fraud.
If states had followed their own constitution instead of going around their legislative process then it likely the outcome of the election changes.
 
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AshG said:
“The die is cast for the Republican Party. It will be destroyed on January 6th in much the same way the Whig party was destroyed by the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 1854. The act unraveled the Missouri compromise and allowed for the westward expansion of slavery. The party could not survive its factionalism. There could be no more accommodation, compromise and partnership between pro-slavery and anti-slavery Whigs. A new political party was born, the Republican Party. That party will divide into irreconcilable factions on January 6th.

The 6th will commence a political civil war inside the GOP. The autocratic side will roll over the pro-democracy remnant of the GOP like the Wehrmacht did the Belgian Army in 1940. The ‘22 GOP primary season will be a blood letting. The 6th will be a loyalty test. The purge will follow.

Does anybody doubt the outcome of the @IvankaTrump vs. @marcorubio primary in Florida? Anyone willing to make a bet on @robportman? It turns out JFK was right. The problem of trying to ride the tiger is the likelihood of winding up inside the tiger.

The poisonous fruit from four years of collaboration and complicity with Trump’s insanity, illiberalism and incompetence are ready for harvest. It will kill the GOP because it’s Pro Democracy faction and Autocratic factions can no more exist together then could the Whig Party hold together the abolitionist with the Slave master. It won’t happen over night but the destination is clear. The Conservative party in America is dead. It may continue to bear the name “Republican” but it will be no such thing.

Fascism has indeed come to America and as was once predicted: It is wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. This movement must be defeated. It cannot be appeased, accommodated or negotiated with. It must be recognized for what it is and we must all recognize the new age of American politics it has wrought. It has reset the debate entirely.

There are only two sides in American politics now. There is the American side and the Autocratic side. May God help us all if we falter, flag or fail in defense of American democracy.”
Steve Schmidt
The Lincoln Project
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Edit: apparently someone named John Weaver

I wonder if Schmidt is the one being referred to below
 
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Grand Vol said:
Savage AF
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AM64 said:
I am constantly amazed that liars like Joe can stand in front of a crowd, tell them lies, and they lap it up.
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lol..........You can't be serious.
That is the absolute epitome of Trump and his worshipers. Our country has never seen anything like it.
 
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