2020 Presidential Race

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BigOrangeD said:
It does not matter what he does. You'll always be against him. You are way too far left BB.
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Trump was a liberal until a few years ago.

He seems to be angling to be the most fiscally irresponsible president in our history.

He cozies up to authoritarian leaders of socialist countries.

He has praised the use of eminent domain confiscations.

He said he likes people in the military, as long as they don't get captured.

He thinks his job as president is to stir up controversy and portray himself as the hero/victim.

He wants to censor the content of video games.

He intrudes into free markets with tariffs and is destroying markets that American farmers have relied on for decades.

He is a moral reprobate who pays pornstars for sex while his pregnant wife is alone at home, then pays hush money to try to keep it quiet,

AND he is too incompetent to even keep it quiet.

Not to mention the fact that he walks around with a spray tan and died hair in ill-fitting suits looking like some sort of latter day clown-king.

Any reasonable conservative would oppose such an embarrassment.

Instead, if anyone criticizes the emperor you guys will meme at them, post t-shirt slogans, quibble with one out of the 20 things they said, or most-often just dismiss them with labeling or name-calling.

That is how the GOP dies in this country and I don't think it will be good for America when it happens.
 
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Rifleman said:
Trump was a liberal until a few years ago.

He seems to be angling to be the most fiscally irresponsible president in our history.

He cozies up to authoritarian leaders of socialist countries.

He has praised the use of eminent domain confiscations.

He said he likes people in the military, as long as they don't get captured.

He thinks his job as president is stir up controversy and portray himself as the hero/victim.

He wants to censor the content of video games.

He intrudes into free markets with tariffs and is destroying markets that American farmers have relied on for decades.

He is a moral reprobate who pays pornstars for sex while his pregnant wife is alone at home, then pays hush money to try to keep it quiet,

AND he is too incompetent to even keep it quiet.

Not to mention the fact that he walks around with a spray tan and died hair in ill-fitting suits looking like some sort of latter day clown-king.

Any reasonable conservative would oppose such an embarrassment.

Instead, if anyone criticizes the emperor you guys will meme at them, post t-shirt slogans, quibble with one out of the 20 things they said, or most-often just dismiss them with labeling or name-calling.

That is how the GOP dies in this country and I don't think it will be good for America when it happens.
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What is your opinion of the Trump voter?
 
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VolStrom said:
Oh I guarantee that if Warren gets the nomination her claims of being a native American are going to be her nemesis. She cemented that by getting a job by virtue of her claiming something she wasn't. Apparently the democrats do this routinely because their Hollywood elites do the same thing.
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I agree trump will use it. But it seems she has dropped the claims since she found out she is 1023/1024 a liar. So the claims against will no longer hurt her as she has dropped it. It wont move the needle at all like corporate Joe, millionaire Sanders, or lock em up Harris
 
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southgatevol said:
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What is your opinion of the Trump voter?
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I have a lot of respect for people who actually show up and make a choice. Even more so when that choice is as unpalatable as 2016.

Being a citizen means participating. I also believe that the citizen should be holding those elected accountable from both parties.

I will blindly root for the Vols no matter what. I have have never known of a politician worthy of the same devotion. We need more citizens and less people waving pom poms and calling the people on the other side names when it comes to politics.
 
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Rifleman said:
Trump was a liberal until a few years ago.

He seems to be angling to be the most fiscally irresponsible president in our history.

He cozies up to authoritarian leaders of socialist countries.

He has praised the use of eminent domain confiscations.

He said he likes people in the military, as long as they don't get captured.

He thinks his job as president is stir up controversy and portray himself as the hero/victim.

He wants to censor the content of video games.

He intrudes into free markets with tariffs and is destroying markets that American farmers have relied on for decades.

He is a moral reprobate who pays pornstars for sex while his pregnant wife is alone at home, then pays hush money to try to keep it quiet,

AND he is too incompetent to even keep it quiet.

Not to mention the fact that he walks around with a spray tan and died hair in ill-fitting suits looking like some sort of latter day clown-king.

Any reasonable conservative would oppose such an embarrassment.

Instead, if anyone criticizes the emperor you guys will meme at them, post t-shirt slogans, quibble with one out of the 20 things they said, or most-often just dismiss them with labeling or name-calling.

That is how the GOP dies in this country and I don't think it will be good for America when it happens.
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Both Parties are corrupt. The Democrats last candidate was so bad that Trump got elected. I don't see one candidate on their current slate running for the nomination that will be any better.

Maybe it would be a better option if both parties die.
 
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37L1 said:
Both Parties are corrupt. The Democrats last candidate was so bad that Trump got elected. I don't see one candidate on their current slate running for the nomination that will be any better.

Maybe it would be a better option if both parties die.
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I am very much a sucker for Both SIdes are Bad arguments.

It is tempting to believe that both parties rotting off the vine would be best, but I think the political stability of the imperfect system we have is something people take for granted. We have avoided violent revolutions that even much more ancient societies like China have undergone. I don't think some people at the extremes of our political agendas really understand the historical implications of what they advocate for. Most of the mass genocides of the 20th century started with the left or right winning a total victory and going forward with what they thought would be institutionalized utopia.

We need people to participate more, think a little more, and forgive each other our foibles a little more.

We also have a natural strength in state and local governments being their own laboratories of democracy. We need the federal government to be a little more flexible to take up ideas that have worked at the state level. Of course that's how we got the Affordable Care Act, but that is an argument for another thread.
 
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Rifleman said:
I am very much a sucker for Both SIdes are Bad arguments.

It is tempting to believe that both parties rotting off the vine would be best, but I think the political stability of the imperfect system we have is something people take for granted. We have avoided violent revolutions that even much more ancient societies like China have undergone. I don't think some people at the extremes of our political agendas really understand the historical implications of what they advocate for. Most of the mass genocides of the 20th century started with the left or right winning a total victory and going forward with what they thought would be institutionalized utopia.

We need people to participate more, think a little more, and forgive each other our foibles a little more.

We also have a natural strength in state and local governments being their own laboratories of democracy. We need the federal government to be a little more flexible to take up ideas that have worked at the state level. Of course that's how we got the Affordable Care Act, but that is an argument for another thread.
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One of the more coherent and correct statments I have read on this board. Thanks.
 
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Rifleman said:
I am very much a sucker for Both SIdes are Bad arguments.

It is tempting to believe that both parties rotting off the vine would be best, but I think the political stability of the imperfect system we have is something people take for granted. We have avoided violent revolutions that even much more ancient societies like China have undergone. I don't think some people at the extremes of our political agendas really understand the historical implications of what they advocate for. Most of the mass genocides of the 20th century started with the left or right winning a total victory and going forward with what they thought would be institutionalized utopia.

We need people to participate more, think a little more, and forgive each other our foibles a little more.

We also have a natural strength in state and local governments being their own laboratories of democracy. We need the federal government to be a little more flexible to take up ideas that have worked at the state level. Of course that's how we got the Affordable Care Act, but that is an argument for another thread.
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I'm not in favor of violence or bloodshed, but I think the country is in desperate need of some kind of revolution. Partisanship has found its way into every nook and cranny of government, including areas that were never meant to be political. We have lifelong Congressmen and women that build networks of influence and large power bases. The system is corrupt and in its current state, I don't think it can be fixed. Large scale change is needed and if we continue with the current system, they will never come.
 
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