2021 SEC Tournament (seeding, schedule)

#51
#51
The Dog said:
Good, because Bama is going to spank 'em. Of course, the Pearl apologists have a built in excuse, with Cooper hurt and their self-imposed post season ban, "it didn't matter anyway and they still beat UT". I wonder what Chuck Person thinks about Pearl ? I bet Person beats the sh!t out of Pearl when he gets out of prison
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Barnes is a solid coach but is Too set in his ways, doesn’t make adjustments and makes his players play uptight. Pearl coaches circles around Barnes, makes in game adjustments, allows his players to play loose and have fun. Just a few reasons what Pearl is 6-0 vs. Barnes in their last 6 match-ups.
 
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1985Vols said:
Barnes is a solid coach but is Too set in his ways, doesn’t make adjustments and makes his players play uptight. Pearl coaches circles around Barnes, makes in game adjustments, allows his players to play loose and have fun. Just a few reasons what Pearl is 6-0 vs. Barnes in their last 6 match-ups.
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I wonder why Bruce is 52-66 in his other SEC games at Auburn?
 
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It is a huge problem that Pearl has Barnes' number, so much so that it cost the Vols a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament two seasons ago and helped give Auburn the confidence to make a Final Four that has eluded UT for 112 years, but what TG-O says is fair. We all know that Bruce is an extraordinary car salesman, so I would bet anything that his pregame/halftime locker room speeches when facing the Vols are incredibly impassioned and manage to get his kids going.
 
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Seeds should be falling into place after tonight. Missouri at Florida TOMORROW pretty much determines if Florida at TN on Sunday is a play-in game for the 4th double bye.

For TN to jump over LSU, LSU will have to lose to Vandy AND Missouri and TN needs to beat FL. At 9-8 or 10-7 LSU has the head-to-head tie breaker with TN.

Ole Miss, Missouri, and KY can all catch TN and could each at least get double byes based on their records. I’m not clear on all their tie-breaker scenarios to reach 3 or 4.

Ole Miss has the head-to-head tie breaker over TN with their win.

Missouri split with TN but their win over Bama might be the tie break advantage over TN.

KY split with TN but TN’s win over Arkansas might give TN that tie breaker.
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Tuesday 3/2:
6:30 Ark at USC (SEC NW) Arkansas wins
7:00 Aub at Bama (ESPN2) Alabama wins
8:30 Vandy at LSU (SEC NW) LSU wins
9:00 KY at Ole Miss (ESPN) Ole Miss wins

Wednesday 3/3:
6:30 Missouri at FL (SEC NW)
8:30 Miss St at TxAM (SEC NW)

Idle:
Tennessee
Georgia
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(1) Alabama 15-2 .882 (at GA)
(2) Arkansas 12-4 .750 (TxAM)
(3) Florida 9-5 .643 (MZ, @TN)
(4) LSU 10-6 .625 (at Missouri)

(5) Tennessee 9-7 .563 (FL)
(6) Ole Miss 9-8 .529 (Vandy)
(7) Missouri 7-7 .500 (TxAM-ppd, @FL, LSU)
(8) Kentucky 7–9 .438 (USC)
(8) Miss State 7-9 .438 (@TxAM, @Aub)
(10) Georgia 7-10 .412 (Bama)

(n/a) Auburn 6-11 .353 (Miss St)
(11) South Carolina 4-11 .267 (at KY)
(12) Texas A&M 2-6 .250 (Miss State, at Ark)
(13) Vanderbilt 3-12 .200 (at Ole Miss)
 
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The Dog said:
Good, because Bama is going to spank 'em. Of course, the Pearl apologists have a built in excuse, with Cooper hurt and their self-imposed post season ban, "it didn't matter anyway and they still beat UT". I wonder what Chuck Person thinks about Pearl ? I bet Person beats the sh!t out of Pearl when he gets out of prison
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U mean when he gets off probation?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Seeds should be falling into place after tonight. Missouri at Florida TOMORROW pretty much determines if Florida at TN on Sunday is a play-in game for the 4th double bye.

For TN to jump over LSU, LSU will have to lose to Vandy AND Missouri and TN needs to beat FL. At 9-8 or 10-7 LSU has the head-to-head tie breaker with TN.

Ole Miss, Missouri, and KY can all catch TN and could each at least get double byes based on their records. I’m not clear on all their tie-breaker scenarios to reach 3 or 4.

Ole Miss has the head-to-head tie breaker over TN with their win.

Missouri split with TN but their win over Bama might be the tie break advantage over TN.

KY split with TN but TN’s win over Arkansas might give TN that tie breaker.
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Tuesday 3/2:
6:30 Ark at USC (SEC NW)
7:00 Aub at Bama (ESPN2)
8:30 Vandy at LSU (SEC NW)
9:00 KY at Ole Miss (ESPN)

Wednesday 3/3:
6:30 Missouri at FL (SEC NW)
8:30 Miss St at TxAM (SEC NW)

Idle:
Tennessee
Georgia
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(1) Alabama 14-2 .875 (Aub, at GA)
(2) Arkansas 11-4 .733 (at USC, TxAM)
(3) Florida 9-5 .643 (MZ, @TN)
(4) LSU 9–6 .600 (Vandy, at Missouri)

(5) Tennessee 9-7 .563 (FL)
(6) Ole Miss 8–8 .500 (KY, Vandy)
(6) Missouri 7-7 .500 (TxAM-ppd, @FL, LSU)
(8) Kentucky 7–8 .467 (@Ole Miss, USC)
(9) Miss State 7-9 .438 (@TxAM, @Aub)
(10) Georgia 7-10 .412 (Bama)

(n/a) Auburn 6-10 .375 (at Bama, Miss St)
(11) South Carolina 4-10 .286 (Ark, at KY)
(12) Texas A&M 2-6 .250 (Miss State, at Ark)
(13) Vanderbilt 3-11 .214 (at LSU, at Ole Miss)
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For Ole Miss and Kentucky, they’d have to win their last two, LSU lose their last two, us lose to Florida, and Mizzou to lose at least 1. So they’re basically out of the picture. The winner of their game tonight is positioned for the 6 seed and the loser the 8

There won’t be a tie break scenario between us and Ole Miss because they’ll have played one more game. The 2 teams we could have a potential tie break scenario with us LSU and Kentucky. We lose the tie break over LSU, but win it over UK by merit of being Arkansas. In the case of a 3 way tie, Kentucky actually would come out on top w a combined 2-1 record, then LSU, then us. That would prepresent the worst case scenario if Missouri would also beat Florida, we’d drop to the 7th seed. Highly unlikely, but that still the worst case scenario
 
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Man that would be a really ****** scenario. Our game w Florida would then basically be the difference between a 3 seed and a 7 seed.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I wonder why Bruce is 52-66 in his other SEC games at Auburn?
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Seeing as how Auburn was 129-198 in the 20 years before Pearl was hired I guess they’ll take 52-66 with a Final 4 , SEC Championship and SECT championship thrown in as well. I would think most UT fans would be happy with that the past 6 years
 
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golfballs said:
For Ole Miss and Kentucky, they’d have to win their last two, LSU lose their last two, us lose to Florida, and Mizzou to lose at least 1. So they’re basically out of the picture. The winner of their game tonight is positioned for the 6 seed and the loser the 8

There won’t be a tie break scenario between us and Ole Miss because they’ll have played one more game. The 2 teams we could have a potential tie break scenario with us LSU and Kentucky. We lose the tie break over LSU, but win it over UK by merit of being Arkansas. In the case of a 3 way tie, Kentucky actually would come out on top w a combined 2-1 record, then LSU, then us. That would prepresent the worst case scenario if Missouri would also beat Florida, we’d drop to the 7th seed. Highly unlikely, but that still the worst case scenario
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I missed the uneven games played with Ole Miss. Yes, tiebreaker is not in play.

I don’t know who to be pulling for.

Ark/USC doesn’t really matter.

Aub/Bama... guaranteed losing record for Bruce versus just sick of Alabama (Bama has wrapped up #1), don’t really care.

Vandy beating LSU is probably a good thing.

KY/Ole Miss... not sure. Loser won’t catch TN I guess.

FL/Missouri. Missouri can set TN up to steal #4 but TN will have to have an amazing transformation from the earlier TN/FL game (but Missouri did just that to TN).

Miss St/TxAM, don’t really care but it will matter as far as suggesting that there will be a 12/13 game on Wednesday.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I missed the uneven games played with Ole Miss. Yes, tiebreaker is not in play.

I don’t know who to be pulling for.

Ark/USC doesn’t really matter.

Aub/Bama... guaranteed losing record for Bruce versus just sick of Alabama (Bama has wrapped up #1), don’t really care.

Vandy beating LSU is probably a good thing.

KY/Ole Miss... not sure. Loser won’t catch TN I guess.

FL/Missouri. Missouri can set TN up to steal #4 but TN will have to have an amazing transformation from the earlier TN/FL game (but Missouri did just that to TN).

Miss St/TxAM, don’t really care but it will matter as far as suggesting that there will be a 12/13 game on Wednesday.
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Vandy over LSU... however improbable. And I think UK over Ole Miss and neither team can pass us. However that would ruin your hope of UK beating Bama as it would likely mean a 6 seed for UK assuming they beat USC at home
 
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golfballs said:
Vandy over LSU... however improbable. And I think UK over Ole Miss and neither team can pass us. However that would ruin your hope of UK beating Bama as it would likely mean a 6 seed for UK assuming they beat USC at home
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So many scenarios and I guess (assuming they’re outside of the 1st 4 seeds) the possible matchup for TN on Friday rather than Thursday is most impactful for TN to have a favorable draw. I don’t know which team in the log jam I’d want TN to play in a potential Friday game. Avoiding Bama and Arkansas I guess, but between FL, LSU, Missouri, or KY I don’t have a strong preference. They’d all be difficult to match up with.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
So many scenarios and I guess (assuming they’re outside of the 1st 4 seeds) the possible matchup for TN on Friday rather than Thursday is most impactful for TN to have a favorable draw. I don’t know which team in the log jam I’d want TN to play in a potential Friday game. Avoiding Bama and Arkansas I guess, but between FL, LSU, Missouri, or KY I don’t have a strong preference. They’d all be difficult to match up with.
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It’s not possible for us to get a matchup w UK or Missouri on Friday (assuming we aren’t a top 4 seed). Since that would mean LSU losing twice and then owning the tie breaker over us, we’d be 6 or 7. The only possible Friday matchups would be Arkansas (the unlikely scenario above), and more likely Florida or LSU
 
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lawgator1 said:
The conference tournaments should not be played this year. All they do is create opportunity for a slew of teams to have a Covid problem. Just not worth the risk for a few upset specials to back into the NCCA bracket this year.
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100% agreed. The simple fact that the NCAA is selecting "alternates" in case of COVID-19 issues should be enough to dissuade power conferences from having likely-meaningless tournaments that jeopardize the health of their golden geese.
 
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#66
lawgator1 said:
The conference tournaments should not be played this year. All they do is create opportunity for a slew of teams to have a Covid problem. Just not worth the risk for a few upset specials to back into the NCCA bracket this year.
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I agree.
 
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The shittiest of all scenarios left: the 0.002% chance that we could play Kentucky on Thursday, us as the 7th seed and them as the 10th and the winner playing Arkansas
 
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golfballs said:
The shittiest of all scenarios left: the 0.002% chance that we could play Kentucky on Thursday, us as the 7th seed and them as the 10th and the winner playing Arkansas
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Another is missing getting one of the 4 double byes and losing in the finals. Getting to the finals in 3 straight SECTs would be a positive for building up the program, but playing 4 consecutive days in a row starting a week before the NCAAT begins is a negative as far as preparing for the latter.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Another is missing getting one of the 4 double byes and losing in the finals. Getting to the finals in 3 straight SECTs would be a positive for building up the program, but playing 4 consecutive days in a row starting a week before the NCAAT begins is a negative as far as preparing for the latter.
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That’s one reason to be on the other side of Alabama on the bracket and hoping they get beat. Playing at their pace on a rest disadvantage is not ideal. Right now we’re likely to get the 5 seed. I’d rather have the 6 instead for that reason. The quality of our first two opponents wouldn’t really be much different
 
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Missouri’s official website still shows TxAM as postponed, but a makeup doesn’t seem probable.


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Tuesday 3/2:
6:30 Ark at USC (SEC NW) Arkansas wins
7:00 Aub at Bama (ESPN2) Alabama wins
8:30 Vandy at LSU (SEC NW) LSU wins
9:00 KY at Ole Miss (ESPN) Ole Miss wins

Wednesday 3/3:
6:30 Missouri at FL (SEC NW)
8:30 Miss St at TxAM (SEC NW)

Idle:
Tennessee
Georgia
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(1) Alabama 15-2 .882 (at GA)
(2) Arkansas 12-4 .750 (TxAM)
(3) Florida 9-5 .643 (MZ, @TN)
(4) LSU 10-6 .625 (at Missouri)

(5) Tennessee 9-7 .563 (FL)
(6) Ole Miss 9-8 .529 (Vandy)
(7) Missouri 7-7 .500 (TxAM-ppd, @FL, LSU)
(8) Kentucky 7–9 .438 (USC)
(8) Miss State 7-9 .438 (@TxAM, @Aub)
(10) Georgia 7-10 .412 (Bama)

(n/a) Auburn 6-11 .353 (Miss St)
(11) South Carolina 4-11 .267 (at KY)
(12) Texas A&M 2-6 .250 (Miss State, at Ark)
(13) Vanderbilt 3-12 .200 (at Ole Miss)


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FIRST ROUND:
Wednesday, March 10

7 p.m.
Game 1: Seed #12 vs. Seed #13 SEC Network
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SECOND ROUND:
Thursday, March 11

12 p.m.
Game 2: Seed #8 vs. Seed #9 SEC Network

2 p.m.
Game 3: Seed #5 vs. Game 1 winner SEC Network

7 p.m.
Game 4: Seed #10 vs. Seed #7 SEC Network

9 p.m.
Game 5: Seed #11 vs. Seed #6 SEC Network
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QUARTERFINALS:
Friday, March 12

12 p.m.
Game 6: Seed #1 vs. Game 2 winner ESPN

2 p.m.
Game 7: Seed #4 vs. Game 3 winner ESPN

7 p.m.
Game 8: Seed #2 vs. Game 4 winner SEC NW

9 p.m.
Game 9: Seed #3 vs. Game 5 winner SEC NW
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SEMIFINALS:
Sataturday, March 13

1 p.m.
Game 10: Game 6 winner vs. Game 7 winner ESPN

3 p.m.
Game 11: Game 8 winner vs. Game 9 winner ESPN
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CHAMPIONSHIP:
Sunday, March 14

1 p.m.
Game 12: Game 10 winner vs. Game 11 winner ESPN
 
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