Lawrence Wright
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Maybe. As we just watched, it’s very difficult to beat good teams twice and then you add in Spurrier to the equation. At the same time, Tee Martin was a better quarterback than when we played them in September. Let’s be honest Tee Martin wasn’t good. He threw for 60+ yards and got a prayer caught by Peerless Price for a Td. Al Wilson probably wouldn’t have forced 3 turnovers in a second game and Martin probably would’ve had better #s.Yep and we wanted no part of a Florida rematch
They probably would have smoked us in a rematch. UF had, what, 4 turnovers in that game? And we managed to win by a FG in OT?Maybe. As we just watched, it’s very difficult to beat good teams twice and then you add in Spurrier to the equation. At the same time, Tee Martin was a better quarterback than when we played them in September. Let’s be honest Tee Martin wasn’t good. He threw for 60+ yards and got a prayer caught by Peerless Price for a Td. Al Wilson probably wouldn’t have forced 3 turnovers in a second game and Martin probably would’ve had better #s.
It's sour grapes because we don't have that kind of roster.
If it's not purely sour grapes, then it is as though people who use that argument don't see recruiting as much talent as possible to be part of a college football coach's job. It's like the players that you have are irrelevant, and if you are a "good coach" then you'll win titles regardless of the players on the team. When these guys say "I'm not impressed with Coach X because he always has the best players" I'm like "No s**t; isn't that the point?"
How many little engines that could win national titles? I mean, has it ever happened?
The ball definitely bounce the right way that season. Feels like we sold our soul and we haven’t gotten a bounce since then. 2016 in Athens being the exception.They probably would have smoked us in a rematch. UF had, what, 4 turnovers in that game? And we managed to win by a FG in OT?
Every team that wins a title gets fortunate breaks, but we got some big ones that year. UF game, Stoerner fumble, got to play FSU with a backup QB in the title game. Of course we also played most of the season without our starting RB as well.
That first Clemson team does probably fall into that category but even them (especially these days) get elite talent, their classes are just relatively small so the overall ranking is low. Their current class is ranked 37th cause they only have 12 kids but 8 of them are 4-5*. One thing about Dabo’s classes and even those early ones is where the talent is concentrated; DL, QB and offensive skill positions.The only team team I can think of that didn’t win a National title with top 5, elite talent was 2002 Ohio State, which is probably the luckiest national champion of the last 25 years and still has a lot of NFL players on defense. And I guess the recruiting rankings would say 2016 Clemson as well.
2016 Clemson certainly didn't have the depth, but they did have premium talent at a variety of key positions, particularly QB and WR. He was just a true freshman that year, but Dexter Lawrence was the #2 player in the country and was one of their key defensive players.The only team team I can think of that didn’t win a National title with top 5, elite talent was 2002 Ohio State, which is probably the luckiest national champion of the last 25 years and still has a lot of NFL players on defense. And I guess the recruiting rankings would say 2016 Clemson as well.
Now Kirby has taken UGA to another level. Until that win last night he hadn’t. He finally just passed Richt in winning percentage this year and they were even in SEC titles. You can’t go by titles played for as there wasn’t a playoff system under Richt.How many national titles did Richt play for?
Kirby took UGA to another level.
The Coker comparison was absurd.
And your last sentence is entirely untrue, as it suggests even elite talent doesn’t require coaching or motivation.
Bill O'Brien called a terrible game last night, Kirby owes this one to him.
Alabama had no ability to take the top off the defense once Williams went down. That was a game-changer because they were already without Metchie.Bill O'Brien called a terrible game last night, Kirby owes this one to him.
The only team team I can think of that didn’t win a National title with top 5, elite talent was 2002 Ohio State, which is probably the luckiest national champion of the last 25 years and still has a lot of NFL players on defense. And I guess the recruiting rankings would say 2016 Clemson as well.
I thought BoB did okay. It wasn't his best outing, but it certainly wasn't the abortion that was the Iron Bowl. Without Williams, UGA was able to take away everything Bama wanted to do. And even then we got some guys open and were victimized by drops.
If there's a coach that deserved to be slammed, it's Pete Golding. That second half defense was unacceptably bad.