2023 Recruiting

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turbovol said:
Exactly. Harper knows her players but than we do--but the chances of Horston, Jackson and Key staying another year are surely low. And that makes Harper's gamble seem not very wise. Key might stay--I don't think she's athletic enough to play in the WNBA---but the other two? Harper will have to hit another home run with transfers or she will be in serious roster trouble.
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I would say Key is much more likely than the other two by far. She is not listed in the first round right now of the WNBA because it is going to be one of the strongest drafts ever. Jackson is not staying JMO, Horston hard to say if she was making enough NIL money she might be willing to bypass another year. The scary part to me is they all three leave and Powell changes her mind about leaving. She could easily decide to do that if something better came along.
 
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WBB is going to be "different". It's different because it's possible that by staying in college at a place like Tennessee, they can make double or triple or more than what they can make in the W. The first 4 picks only make $70k, right? The current highest-paid player makes $230k annually. The league avg appears to be about $125k and the minimum appears to be about $60k. Plus, I assume the league does not cover off-season training, diet, or nutrition. To become a top player for most women will require doing this out of pocket.

If I'm a LV, I stay as long as I can. I milk the NIL for all it's worth, trying to make at least $100k NIL. Add to that the roughly $50k in benefits from a full-ride scholarship and additional athletic, training, nutrition, and medical benefits, and yeah, I'm staying as long as I can. If I bankroll as much as I can, maybe I can avoid the grind of playing overseas in my early years in the W and I obtain multiple highly respected degrees and connections in Knoxville in case basketball opportunities end sooner than expected.
 
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37620VOL said:
WBB is going to be "different". It's different because it's possible that by staying in college at a place like Tennessee, they can make double or triple or more than what they can make in the W. The first 4 picks only make $70k, right? The current highest-paid player makes $230k annually. The league avg appears to be about $125k and the minimum appears to be about $60k. Plus, I assume the league does not cover off-season training, diet, or nutrition. To become a top player for most women will require doing this out of pocket.

If I'm a LV, I stay as long as I can. I milk the NIL for all it's worth, trying to make at least $100k NIL. Add to that the roughly $50k in benefits from a full-ride scholarship and additional athletic, training, nutrition, and medical benefits, and yeah, I'm staying as long as I can. If I bankroll as much as I can, maybe I can avoid the grind of playing overseas in my early years in the W and I obtain multiple highly respected degrees and connections in Knoxville in case basketball opportunities end sooner than expected.
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It will soon no longer be much of an issue, because the only reason this is in the conversation right now is because of the extra COVID year. Once that goes away, the only players in the situation of deciding to stay or leave will be those that turn 22 during the year of the draft, which shouldn't happen too often.
 
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37620VOL said:
WBB is going to be "different". It's different because it's possible that by staying in college at a place like Tennessee, they can make double or triple or more than what they can make in the W. The first 4 picks only make $70k, right? The current highest-paid player makes $230k annually. The league avg appears to be about $125k and the minimum appears to be about $60k. Plus, I assume the league does not cover off-season training, diet, or nutrition. To become a top player for most women will require doing this out of pocket.

If I'm a LV, I stay as long as I can. I milk the NIL for all it's worth, trying to make at least $100k NIL. Add to that the roughly $50k in benefits from a full-ride scholarship and additional athletic, training, nutrition, and medical benefits, and yeah, I'm staying as long as I can. If I bankroll as much as I can, maybe I can avoid the grind of playing overseas in my early years in the W and I obtain multiple highly respected degrees and connections in Knoxville in case basketball opportunities end sooner than expected.
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After what Rennia went through, I could see them seriously considering a return to Tennessee to take advantage of NIL. Ashley Joens returned to Iowa State so maybe we will get lucky and they all return. Until some of the older players in the WNBA start retiring or they add more roster spots, it’s very difficult to make a team.
 
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luballer said:
After what Rennia went through, I could see them seriously considering a return to Tennessee to take advantage of NIL. Ashley Joens returned to Iowa State so maybe we will get lucky and they all return. Until some of the older players in the WNBA start retiring or they add more roster spots, it’s very difficult to make a team.
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That's a really good point
 
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37620VOL said:
WBB is going to be "different". It's different because it's possible that by staying in college at a place like Tennessee, they can make double or triple or more than what they can make in the W. The first 4 picks only make $70k, right? The current highest-paid player makes $230k annually. The league avg appears to be about $125k and the minimum appears to be about $60k. Plus, I assume the league does not cover off-season training, diet, or nutrition. To become a top player for most women will require doing this out of pocket.

If I'm a LV, I stay as long as I can. I milk the NIL for all it's worth, trying to make at least $100k NIL. Add to that the roughly $50k in benefits from a full-ride scholarship and additional athletic, training, nutrition, and medical benefits, and yeah, I'm staying as long as I can. If I bankroll as much as I can, maybe I can avoid the grind of playing overseas in my early years in the W and I obtain multiple highly respected degrees and connections in Knoxville in case basketball opportunities end sooner than expected.
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Depends on what they can make in endorsements in the WNBA and what they can make playing overseas. But it certainly becomes much more attractive to stay in college, especially for the less than elite players.

And Griner's situation has to make playing in some countries much less appealing now.
 
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Well, I'm sorry if this sounds pessimistic, but if Horston and Jackson leave we will very likely be b-a-d next year. Harper will probably sign two
or more transfers, but there's little chance they'll be as talented as those two.
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
You're right. That sounds pessimistic.
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Still a good chance there will be some de-commits and shuffling around IMO.


As far as players in the portal already….Tamia Ware is worth a long, hard look. She’s small but feisty and a good decision maker. Just not enough minutes at LSU for her with Flaujae.

I suspect Kendall Hunter will be in the portal outta Texas also. She is a dynamite shooter who can really play. If she transfers I hope we have her visit at least.

Guard play is still our bugaboo. Powell will come along I really think, but she hasn’t sorted it out yet. She’s either too aggressive and calls her own number too much or she’s too passive. Need her to score when she can and distribute in transition.

Miles is a very good defender but I don’t see her ever being a big time offensive threat. So we really need a player or two who can run the floor, shoot from outside and handle the ball.

Walker IMO has topped off. She’s shown what she can bring and she plays hard. She’s just limited athletically with her knee and does not get enough lift on her shot from outside. Love the kid and love her heart, but against better competition she just doesn’t have what we need.
 
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tnsportsfan53 said:
Probably pick up a couple from the portal in the spring. Any chance of picking up a sleeper similar to the Darby sisters. What about Lyndie Ramsey of Unaka. 6'0" guard with more athleticism than Tess. High volume scorer.
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tnsportsfan53 said:
Probably pick up a couple from the portal in the spring. Any chance of picking up a sleeper similar to the Darby sisters. What about Lyndie Ramsey of Unaka. 6'0" guard with more athleticism than Tess. High volume scorer.
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Type of player that Indiana and a couple others recruit and turn into star players. Very thin player right now, but she has good size at 6'0' and could see her being a factor for someone as she develops strength and hopefully gains a little weight.
 
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NeedOrange said:
Individual NIL is yours. You take it with you to the pros. All you lose is the team NIL which is typically $25,000
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In that case Paige and Azzi could both leave next year as the likely one and 2 picks then correct? All I hear about is how much more money these kids are making rather than going pro but if that's the case a bunch of teams should be worrying about their star players.

This isn't a dig or trying to start anything... I'm just thinking those two would be two top picks as best friends that may be hard to pass up especially if they r coming off a championship season.
 
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NeedOrange said:
Individual NIL is yours. You take it with you to the pros. All you lose is the team NIL which is typically $25,000
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This is mostly right they won't get to keep the money they get from the Tennessee Lady Vol Boost Her Club which is quickly getting quite popular and could be worth a much as 50 thousand or more to Tennessee female athletes. They would have to be in school to get funds from there. I'm sure they keep all the others where they name and likeness is being used. I would think just the ones that are assured to be a first round draft pick would leave so this should mean Jackson and Horston. I'm not sure Key will be a first rounder in this deep draft. I think she is the one that might stay on and if she stays possibly Horston will stay with her. Jackson I am almost certain is gone.
 
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I would think that a lot of the "outside" NIL endorsements such as the million-dollar Gatorade deal depends upon whether the company thinks tge athlete has more popularity/visibility as a college athlete at a top program or as a pro athlete. Do the number of followers go up or down when they turn pro? Does the WNBA or NCAA get higher tv ratings?
 
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NeedOrange said:
Individual NIL is yours. You take it with you to the pros. All you lose is the team NIL which is typically $25,000
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That depends on the NIL deal. Most of the local ones are structured so you have to stay at that school to meet the terms of the contract.

I don't think most of the LVs deals will follow them.
 
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And1 said:
It will soon no longer be much of an issue, because the only reason this is in the conversation right now is because of the extra COVID year. Once that goes away, the only players in the situation of deciding to stay or leave will be those that turn 22 during the year of the draft, which shouldn't happen too often.
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I said after 20 class Tess class be less players to get of the portal. Lots of pylayers finish school before transfering.
 
#4,650
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VA_VOLFAN said:
In that case Paige and Azzi could both leave next year as the likely one and 2 picks then correct? All I hear about is how much more money these kids are making rather than going pro but if that's the case a bunch of teams should be worrying about their star players.

This isn't a dig or trying to start anything... I'm just thinking those two would be two top picks as best friends that may be hard to pass up especially if they r coming off a championship season.
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I get you. it just those two and a few others (Cavinder twins, Kiki Rice, etc.) are in a different place. They are all ready making much more money than they would as pros. If they are enjoying school they have little incentive to go to the working world. Paige will have 3 more years if she wants, redshirt Junior year, senior year , and Covid year. I think that is a bit much, but she may stay and graduate with Azzi.
 
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