2024 Presidential Race

[LSU-SIU]

So you don't vote, and are advocating for the dissolution of the Union??
If you don't care enough to even vote, then why even take the time to post in the political forum?? At some point you're right to vote may be in jeopardy so I'd recommend exercising it while you have it.

It has nothing to do with whether I am advocating it or not, its going to happen.

then why even take the time to post in the political forum?

Mostly for entertainment.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Who voted for what now? Just because I think Trump sucks doesn't mean I voted for the other side. Supporting one of the teams isn't required

Why wouldn't you? You are happy with the Potato. So, who did you vote for?

At the end of the day Trump isn't going save this country, let's be honest... what exactly would be saved?

 

[utvolpj]

I guess COVID and FaucI had nothing to do with it.

Who put fauci in charge of the covid response for the white house?

 

[Sea Ray]

Other than the border wall, which by itself is not the solution, how will he protect the borders? Does he have a coherent plan for immigration reform? How will he stand up to woke culture?

Sure. He supports a policy of staying in Mexico as you await your hearing. He will not tear down fences that Texas puts up to keep illegals out. He will employ more patrols at the border, possibly the national guard

As for woke policy he will not have a federal policy of supporting trans in women’s sports. He’ll support a bathroom/locker room for women and one for men. He will seek to hire based on ability, not to check certain boxes. Do you want your press secretary to be adept at answering questions or would you rather this person check a race and sexual orientation box? Such policies get more dangerous when you’re hiring people for secret service and national defense

 

[utvolpj]

Why wouldn't you? You are happy with the Potato. So, who did you vote for?

Can you link where I've ever said that?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Can you link where I've ever said that?

Well, you didn't say those exact words... you said you were better off than 4 years ago. Most sane people would say that's about as good as its going to get for you.

Who did you vote for?

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I think it is Because we know who he is….he is an authentic statesman that truly cares for this country. We are in trouble as a country and many see him as our last hope. Should we turn the reigns over to someone else who (generally speaking) has not lived up to their campaign promises in the past?

Once again I’ll ask…..What is wrong with making our country great again??

If you really believe the second part of your first statement, I have some Bibles I will sell you

 

[utvolpj]

Well, you didn't say those exact words... you said you were better off than 4 years ago. Most sane people would say that's about as good as its going to get for you.

Both my wife and I make more money and our investments are up. How does that have any relationship to me supporting Biden? That's freaking stupid

 

[Sudden Impact]

My post indicates Trump provides us the best chance to continue as the once great nation we were. The alternative expedites the path we are on…..failure at every turn. Border, Economy, Energy, Foreign Affairs, on and on

Neither one of these Candidates or past Candidates provides any hope of making this country great again. It is just a catchy slogan. This country is divided and it gets worse every year due to politics.

Unless it compromises or finds some common ground don't expect greatness if it is divided.
It is divided and a divided country cannot be "Great" with all the turmoil we are seeing today.
Best to find Common Ground and work from the center vs letting the Extremes run the show.
Extremes are what we are facing today with the choice of Harris or Trump and some division within the Republican party.

How can you be great if you are so divided?

 

[Majors]

Both my wife and I make more money and our investments are up. How does that have any relationship to me supporting Biden? That's freaking stupid

For context, same job or different jobs? Four years ago you could have been part time at Marshall’s and now you’re full time at 84 Lumber. Investments up is vague..401K, real estate, individual investments?

 

[EasternVol]

Sure. He supports a policy of staying in Mexico as you await your hearing. He will not tear down fences that Texas puts up to keep illegals out. He will employ more patrols at the border, possibly the national guard

As for woke policy he will not have a federal policy of supporting trans in women’s sports. He’ll support a bathroom/locker room for women and one for men. He will seek to hire based on ability, not to check certain boxes. Do you want your press secretary to be adept at answering questions or would you rather this person check a race and sexual orientation box? Such policies get more dangerous when you’re hiring people for secret service and national defense

Those are reasonable steps except for using the National Guard since that's not what they're for, but it's hardly immigration reform. Does he have a long term solution to the problem?
Has he said anything concrete about his toilet master plan or how he will not support trans in women's sports?
His VP running mate wants to open thousands of civil service jobs to patronage, which is all about checking boxes.
Are you saying Sarah Huckabee Sanders was adept at answering questions?

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[utvolpj]

For context, same job or different jobs? Four years ago you could have been part time at Marshall’s and now you’re full time at 84 Lumber. Investments up is vague..401K, real estate, individual investments?

New job with a large raise that included stock. I'm in IT not part time retail

 

[BreatheUT]

What it comes down to .. what policies are going to effect you and your family.. for me, it’s inflation, taxes, safety (with all these people coming across the border and we don’t know who the h3ll they are).. all of the rest of that stuff is just distraction and only the people without families, lives, or deductive reasoning skills fall into that trap

The rest of the issues is for gaslighting when you can't win the argument of ideas. Did he say black jobs? Did he argue she is a DEI candidate? People better wake up, at least the sensible independents. The remaining are just leftists who believe in things that have destroyed empires of the past. History has repeated that pattern over time.

 

[Majors]

New job with a large raise that included stock. I'm in IT not part time retail

Very nice, congratulations! That large raise isn’t being maximized to what could have been by COL being higher now vs. then. It’s a daily living tax we all are going through.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Who put fauci in charge of the covid response for the white house?

Trump went in his first term depending on several people to lead him thru the swamp. That was a mistake. He has admitted to this and vowed not to let it happen again. It’s either place yhour hope here or jump in the swamp.

It’s a choice we have to make. I know what I m choosing.

 

[utvolpj]

Very nice, congratulations! That large raise isn’t being maximized to what could have been by COL being higher now vs. then. It’s a daily living tax we all are going through.

A col increase caused by the fiscal policies of the past 2 admins. That's why I would never want either back in the WH

 

[BreatheUT]

Another day, another bundle of noncitizen voter registrations discovered on state voting rolls. But there’s still nothing to see here — so say the left and their election integrity-denying accomplices in corporate media.

On Thursday, Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose announced he was directing local elections officials to remove nearly 500 foreign national registrations from Ohio’s voter rolls. The suspected illegal registrations were detected as part of a statewide audit of Ohio’s voter registration database.

‘Shockingly Easy for Noncitizens to Vote’​

Democrats dismiss the idea that illegal aliens and other foreign nationals will break the law and risk felony charges by violating the honor system that’s supposed to bar noncitizens from voting in federal elections. At the least, they delude themselves and others.

As the New York Post reported in June, government agencies in the vast majority of U.S. states “are providing voter registration forms to migrants without requiring proof of citizenship.”

Ohio Elections Chief Finds 499 More Noncitizens Registered To Vote

With three months to go before November’s presidential election, the need to clean up the voter rolls is becoming more urgent every day.

thefederalist.com

Imagine what will happen in states that will refuse to do audits.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Both my wife and I make more money and our investments are up. How does that have any relationship to me supporting Biden? That's freaking stupid

Okay, but why wouldn't you support voting for the Potato. What is your point?

I initially agreed with you to start with, but you changed your whole position during this process.

Who did you vote for? What else you got?

 

[utvolpj]

Okay, but why wouldn't you support voting for the Potato. What is your point?

I initially agreed with you to start with, but you changed your whole position during this process.

Who did you vote for? What else you got?

What position changed? I'm doing better personally in spite of the fiscal policies. If I disagree with just about everything both candidates stand for why would I support one? You're just not making any sense

 

[Sudden Impact]

Trump went in his first term depending on several people to lead him thru the swamp. That was a mistake. He has admitted to this and vowed not to let it happen again. It’s either place yhour hope here or jump in the swamp.

It’s a choice we have to make. I know what I m choosing.

Trump employs "yes men/women. When they disagree with him then then they become the fall guy. It is simple. Trump does not make mistakes, it is his way or the highway. The problem is he contradicts himself depending on the group of which he is speaking. One extreme in politics is feeding the other to separate the issues and divide the country.
Both Candidates need to state what they are going to do with no exceptions without backtracking. Both candidates exercise Smoke and Mirrors, effectively with no compromise.

 

[BreatheUT]

Pretty much, Trump pretty much says what everyone is really thinking.. he just doesn’t know how to play the smooth politician game very well and say it diplomatically not gonna lie, during the black journalist conference, it was funny as h3ll, but to win he needs to not be so truthful

Trump was right. Horrible questions. The democrats didn't even care to show up. Over 30 minutes late which is bad professionalism. The mics didn't work. It was a bad display of professionalism overall at that conference and said more about the conference than it did Trump. The "I gotcha" questions only made it worse. However, if he would've had more of a Vivek quick mind, he could've delivered resounding knockouts that worked to his total benefit. He's just not that type of speaker.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Neither one of these Candidates or past Candidates provides any hope of making this country great again. It is just a catchy slogan. This country is divided and it gets worse every year due to politics.

Unless it compromises or finds some common ground don't expect greatness if it is divided.
It is divided and a divided country cannot be "Great" with all the turmoil we are seeing today.
Best to find Common Ground and work from the center vs letting the Extremes run the show.
Extremes are what we are facing today with the choice of Harris or Trump and some division within the Republican party.

How can you be great if you are so divided?

Agree and who has caused this division?? Calling one group “deplorable“ or using the term “maga” to designate those who are for Trump is the biggest example of divisiveness in Politics today. It’s the Left’s strategy ( Rules for Radical’s). The majority of Conservatives don’t believe this. Are there some nuts….yes, but it is not a strategy with Trump. Heck, he has gone to Haarlem, appeared on BJC (where Kamala was supposed to appear but did not), and has reached out to all communities. It is paying off but it will take time. Just listened to “Black Women for Kamala“ this morning and they told the white women to “F off”.

Bottom line, should Trump win, the Left will unleash turmoil on the streets, increase made up Judicial upevil and create all sorts of diversions. The reason they do this is because they know that conservative policies work FOR ALL people and they cannot have this. The Left thrives when there is division and turmoil (SA - Rules for Radicals).

 

[LSU-SIU]

What position changed? I'm doing better personally in spite of the fiscal policies. If I disagree with just about everything both candidates stand for why would I support one? You're just not making any sense

You went from if Trump is all we got than the country is lost (or very similar) to whatever you are doing now. I agree with that point, the country is lost but than you are now onto a TDS Luther discussion.

You're not making any sense.

Who have you been voting for?

Trump isn't the problem, Americans are the problem.

 

[BreatheUT]

MSNBC is trying to convince democrats Harris can win.

MSNBC is far worse than CNN and more dangerous. I started to see CNN take some of their overt liars and racists off the air. MSNBC doesn't.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Trump employs "yes men/women. When they disagree with him then then they become the fall guy. It is simple. Trump does not make mistakes, it is his way or the highway. The problem is he contradicts himself depending on the group of which he is speaking. One extreme in politics is feeding the other to separate the issues and divide the country.
Both Candidates need to state what they are going to do with no exceptions without backtracking. Both candidates exercise Smoke and Mirrors, effectively with no compromise.

That is what makes this election interesting. We saw how this country performed (pre-covid) with Trump and we saw how it worked under Harris / Biden.

Each of us will have the opportunity which we think will serve us, our kids and grandkids the best in the future.