2024 Presidential Race

Ex-Minnesota bar owner whose family-run business was Torched in 2020 Riots rips ‘criminal’ Gov. Tim Walz: ‘Complete loss of leadership’​


MINNEAPOLIS — A bar owner whose nearly century-old watering hole was torched by rioters during the 2020 George Floyd riots slammed Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as a “criminal” who let the city descend into a lawless hellscape by refusing to immediately call in the National Guard.

Bill Hupp, who owned the Hexagon Bar in the Seward neighborhood, roared that the fiery destruction of his family-run business rested on Walz’s shoulders.

“It’s just complete neglect of the people you are supposed to represent,” the 74-year-old father of six said of Walz’s actions at the time.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/10/us-ne...pt-gov-tim-walz-complete-loss-of-leadership/#
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Hupp’s Hexagon Bar was burned down during the riots after George Floyd was killed by police officers.

“He could have called [the guardsmen] in [but] he didn’t,” Hupp added. “I didn’t have a drop of water put on my place. Not a drop of water for those three and a half days! Crazy. It’s [a] complete loss of leadership, totally.”

 
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Ok, so take the names and the political affiliation away…..which would you support (Or it appears you would prefer who you would NOT vote for)

Were you better off 4 years ago or today?
Lower taxes or higher?
Lower fuel prices or higher?
a Secure southern border or wide open border?
tough on crime or tough on law abiding citizens by allowing criminals on the street?
fighting drug cartels or beholding to them allowing them to become filthy rich by flooding our streets with fentanyl?
support women’s sports by keeping men out women’s sports or allow men to infiltrate and ruin sports for women ?
Less regulations letting you live your life free or being told what/how you will live your life?
Making America the super power we are and keeping pease thru strength or go the direction we are going today?
vote for one who‘s policies have remained the same over the last 8-10 years vs. one that changes on policy daily?
Allow us to keep our guns or gun confiscation ?
Give me the opportunity to keep what I earn vs illegals taking I earn?

you can knit pick any one of these but overall, the decision, for me, it appears to be an easy decision.
vs
Neither spouts lies about elections being "stolen".
Neither has promulgated an armed riot in our nation's Capitol Building.
Neither is a convicted felon.
Neither promotes grabbing random women "by their pusy".
Neither has been impeached... twice.
Neither has filed bankruptcy... six times.
Neither has kissed Vlad Putin's ass... repeatedly in public.
Neither has engaged in nepotism with their kids.
Neither has called racists in Charlottesville "very fine people".
Neither has multiple employees now serving prison sentences.
Neither imposed a Muslim travel ban.
Neither has called John McCain a loser.
Neither is stupid enough to appoint Jeff Sessions as Attorney General.
Neither is stupid enough to appoint Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing and Development.
Neither withdrew the US from the Paris Agreement on climate change.
Neither have suggested vaccinations cause autism.
Neither have accused Democrats or Republicans of "treason" for not applauding during a State of the Union Address.

I could go on for days.

Trump will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents our nation has ever endured.

I honestly understood folks opting for him over Hillary in '16, but at this point, fool you twice, shame on you.

I wanted someone from the left to lay out reasons to choose Harris. These are the closest posts I've seen in this thread to show the general mindset of a typical voter from each party.

I will be voting for Trump because I agree with the reasons in @Buddy’s Bandit's post more than I do @MontyPython's post.
 
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WATCH: Democrat Unhappy with How Tim Walz Handled Minnesota Riots​


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It is not just Republicans who are raising criticisms of the way Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) handled the George Floyd riots in his state.

 
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Exclusive — Ben Carson: ‘Quite Clear’ Harris-Walz Trying to Con the American People and Lie Their Way to the Presidency​


It is “quite clear” that Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) are trying to con the American people and lie their way into the presidency, Dr. Ben Carson said during an appearance on Breitbart News Saturday.

 
people got ticked she stole Trump's ideas so they are leaving en masse...


Lol. Sure thing . Shows zero reason why they are leaving. Place looked packed when he did a shot inside. And that sure as heck wasn't tons of people leaving. Maybe just normal people. Who the hell goes to, and stays at, one of these things. Same applies to Trump. Those people, at all rallies, need a life
 
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Lol. Sure thing . Shows zero reason why they are leaving. Place looked packed when he did a shot inside. And that sure as heck wasn't tons of people leaving. Maybe just normal people. Who the hell goes to, and stays at, one of these things. Same applies to Trump. Those people, at all rallies, need a life
people can only withstand so much cackling
 
I remember those from 2016 this far out. It was cute. I also remember Biden leading Trump by 10 points this time of year in 2020 (Hillary too in 2016), and it was razor thin when the actual votes were counted. The betting odds changed a lot on election night. Trump out performs the polls.
The polls were favoring Trump. It’s been nothing but bad news since the Democrats fired Biden.
 
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I wanted someone from the left to lay out reasons to choose Harris. These are the closest posts I've seen in this thread to show the general mindset of a typical voter from each party.

I will be voting for Trump because I agree with the reasons in @Buddy’s Bandit's post more than I do @MontyPython's post.
Sorry to be a snarky dick about this, but it's true...

The truth is that your vote (presuming you're a TN resident) - along with most of those from pro-Trump PF voters - really makes no difference. That Trump will win Tennessee is a foregone conclusion.

My vote, however, for Harris here in North Carolina - is actually meaningful. My state is definitely a battleground that either candidate could win. The ads on TV are already non stop.

Once again, the election will boil down to the decision by voters in AZ, WI, MI, PA, GA, NC and maybe a couple other states.

The PF likely has a fair number of folks from both GA and NC. These are the minds here you should convince.
 
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if the presidency had not been stolen from Trump, the wall would have been completed by now and mexico would have paid for it in tariffs imposed on them by Trump. And the US would not be over run with illegals, many of which are criminals and gang members sent here from other countries who emptied their prisons and mental institutions.



"(Bloomberg) -- Venezuela’s rate of violent deaths dropped to its lowest level in more than two decades following years of massive migration as both criminals and victims fled the nation’s economic crisis."
 

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