2024 Presidential Race

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McDad said:
For fundraising and voter turnout, I guess it is better when polls show you trailing somewhat several weeks out with rising numbers the closer it gets to election day.
Whether my guess is right or wrong, no doubt some consultant has run the KPIs on the dynamic to see which is best for fundraising and turnout.
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In 2022, Rasmussen told the Rs what they wanted to hear instead of what they needed to hear.

They then doubled down on the Kari Lake nonsense. Kari lost for one reason and one reason only: she was an unlikeable and whiny bitch that underperformed literally almost every other R on the ticket....
 
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CobbVol said:
I am salty because I have been told walls don't work but I am seeing that is not the case around the circus going on in Chicago.
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I can understand your point. However, consider it from this perspective: the Dems have proven Trump right about something else they have argued against.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
In 2022, Rasmussen told the Rs what they wanted to hear instead of what they needed to hear.

They then doubled down on the Kari Lake nonsense. Kari lost for one reason and one reason only: she was an unlikeable and whiny bitch that underperformed literally almost every other R on the ticket....
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Ok.

My reply wasn't about Rasmussen. I don't even watch the poll numbers.

My reply was about the concept of poll dynamics and the motivation to donate or vote based on where a candidate is polling relative to time remaining till E day.
 
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dalton_vol said:
So she's pushing a 25% unrealized gains tax?
That should help the economy

I can't think ofthe correct terminology
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I'm trying to figure out how exactly that would even work. I doubt she understands what unrealized means. At that point, you cash out into cash, gold, bitcoin, etc. and let them figure it out.
😂 That States that would be impacted the most would be California, New York, etc. You'll see a huge mountain of sales to pay the tax every year. I'm trying to figure out if there is no market for the asset how one would even determine the amount of unrealized lose or gain?

(this is beside the whole constitutional problem of it)
 
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I don't care much about polls. Betting odds seem to me a better indicator. In the last 24 hours or so, it's basically swung from a Harris margin-of-error favorite to a Trump margin-of-error favorite. I'm guessing that's because of the RFK news which more than offset the DNC bump (so far at least). If Nikki Haley or Tulsi Gabbard were on the ticket instead of Trump, this would be a name-your-score election for Republicans.
 
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McDad said:
Ok.

My reply wasn't about Rasmussen. I don't even watch the poll numbers.

My reply was about the concept of poll dynamics and the motivation to donate or vote based on where a candidate is polling relative to time remaining till E day.
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It gets back to same point. The Rs under Trump would rather post polls showing a result that clearly does not reflect reality. See 2022.

The Ds woukd rather push polls with too close to call race for fundraising purposes and bottom ballot races...
 
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What definition of weird would this satisfy?

Also, you can become addicted to anything that releases endorphins and of course it is a little sad, but a 25 year old story about somebody leaning on his support structure is just kinda how life is supposed to work. Should we just be electing people who are addicted to money and power? Give me a pothead instead, please.

Reminds me of an old UCB sketch where Einstein couldn't get to his life's work because he was jerking off 20x a day.

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McDad said:
I don't see it that way.

Care to unpack it for me?
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Well, sure, if you tax the unrealized gains, what's the issue with taxing unrealized losses? If there is no bounds to taxation than the whole point of just compensation goes out the window, you just call it a tax. Its a complete attack on property by the federal government, which is the whole purpose.

Of course, I won't get into there is no way of really administrating this and so forth. If I remember right the Saudis tried something like this, which resulted in many of the elites being tortured.

Where is the nexus to the federal government i.e. commerce to where one with property would even be impacted, meaning you had no income?

If you legally tax unrealized gains on non-commerce, than why can't they tax unrealized losses? You'll eventually end up with 0% equity, or could very easily.

Here is an administrative problem... the agencies have now been partially stripped of their regulatory ability. How exactly would an individual determine a corporation which they own stock in which is private is worth? Or is the IRS going to go investigate and assess?

Most of this doesn't make sense which is why basically no countries do it i.e. Banana Republic.

I agree that corporations have way too much power over the people, but that should be handled as a subject on its own.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
In 2022, Rasmussen told the Rs what they wanted to hear instead of what they needed to hear.

They then doubled down on the Kari Lake nonsense. Kari lost for one reason and one reason only: she was an unlikeable and whiny bitch that underperformed literally almost every other R on the ticket....
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I would say the reason she lost is the stop the steal talk. She was saying her election would be stolen before November
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Not that I think it's a good idea, but the 25% tax on unrealized capital gains would only apply to Americans with a net worth over 100 million dollars.

That's probably about 25,000 Americans.

Again, not that I think it's a good idea at all.
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thats how income tax started.
thats how taxes on SS started.

and even if it did magically stay at the top, it would still have huge impacts because those people are the ones investing in stuff now. you take away 25% of their profit and they are going to be less likely to invest. and those who did will make less money to have to invest the next time.

its a self defeating plan, which is why it would trickle down pretty fast to us normal people.
 
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