2024 Presidential Race

[Sandman 423]

It's telling that your first reaction is to go after a guy standing up for his disabled minor son being attacked by the conservative media. Your tribalism is the only thing that is consistent.

I didn't call him out at all. I called you out for supporting a politician for making personal attacks. Big difference Troll man.

 

[Sandman 423]

Yep. Dispicable. Also dispicable is claiming Obama wasn't born here. Trump did that. Claiming Michelle Obama is a man, many Trumpers do that, while also claiming her kids aren't her kids. Anyone who believes these things, or spreads them, is a POS. Do you agree?

Of coarse it is despicable. Be consistent is all I ask.

 

[Majors]

Not a good look by those who vetted him. A weird wolf in sheep's clothing. The guy makes it easy to dislike him and his lies. Gives another glimpse into who he is.

 

[Sandman 423]

Not a good look by those who vetted him. A weird wolf in sheep's clothing. The guy makes it easy to dislike him and his lies. Gives another glimpse into who he is.

I bet the word "weird" has been used more in the last month than the last 100 years.

 

[midnight orange]

Not a good look by those who vetted him. A weird wolf in sheep's clothing. The guy makes it easy to dislike him and his lies. Gives another glimpse into who he is.

Nothing burger. If you have special needs kids you’re going to be yanking them at times. They should let this one go.

 

[Orangeslice13]

It's disgusting

But only seems to be a problem when it’s their team being made fun of.

 

[Majors]

Nothing burger. If you have special needs kids you’re going to be yanking them at times. They should let this one go.

Hmm, wrong answer. Never a good idea to yank a kid or a kid with special needs whos just walking. Bad look on national television, especially after his Twitter battle with Ann Coulter to do this.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Still wild to me that the idea of raising taxes on people with over $100M (again, one hundred million US dollars) makes certain 60K-a-year-salary types FURIOUS

Because it’s a lie. They never actually raise taxes on the “over 100 million” crowd without giving it back in tax loopholes.
Most of the time people with over 100 mil don’t make taxable income so raising an income tax on them is a nice sound bite but actually worthless. Especially so when you have a government that just prints fiat money without regard to a budget. 30% inflation over the last 5 years is one serious tax hike on those making 60k a year. And both sides of our 2 party system are guilty as sin. Neither sid can point fingers.


But I digress

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Federal Income Tax
Inheritance Tax
Alternative Minimum Tax

Always starts as a tax on “somebody else”….

The 1% stock buyback tax (another horrible policy idea) has already been proposed to be increased by several multiples already

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Because it’s a lie. They never actually raise taxes on the “over 100 million” crowd without giving it back in tax loopholes.
Most of the time people with over 100 mil don’t make taxable income so raising an income tax on them is a nice sound bite but actually worthless. Especially so when you have a government that just prints fiat money without regard to a budget. 30% inflation over the last 5 years is one serious tax hike on those making 60k a year. And both sides of our 2 party system are guilty as sin. Neither sid can point fingers.


But I digress

They are talking about people with net worth over 100M, not taxable income over 100M.

But yes, I get your point...

 

[Orangeslice13]

They are talking about people with net worth over 100M, not taxable income over 100M.

But yes, I get your point...

Makes no difference.
People in that “tax bracket “ are not getting taxed.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Makes no difference.
People in that “tax bracket “ are not getting taxed.

As someone who has done enough tax work in that arena, yes, they are....

 

[Orangeslice13]

As someone who has done enough tax work in that arena, yes, they are....

Lol
Ok

 

[midnight orange]

Hmm, wrong answer. Never a good idea to yank a kid or a kid with special needs whos just walking. Bad look on national television, especially after his Twitter battle with Ann Coulter to do this.

Hmm, not asking for advice. It’s totally normal with special needs kids.

 

[Orangeslice13]

As someone who has done enough tax work in that arena, yes, they are....

I’m sure you’re good at your job too but I know a contractor who should be in the 200k income range. When he got done with tax loopholes he got money back. The kicker is he had zero quarterly filings. So he paid nothing in but got money back. on top of that he was audited and won. It’s a wonderful system we have going.

 

[dalton_vol]

Once. Then lost to man in a basement.



That was stolen.

 

[Majors]

Hmm, not asking for advice. It’s totally normal with special needs kids.

No it’s not. But please keep defending it as “totally normal” gives a glimpse into your life as well. Abuse those kids.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I’m sure you’re good at your job too but I know a contractor who should be in the 200k income range. When he got done with tax loopholes he got money back. The kicker is he had zero quarterly filings. So he paid nothing in but got money back. on top of that he was audited and won. It’s a wonderful system we have going.

Huge difference in between 200K and 100,000,000.00.....

One thing Ive learned over 25 yrs is dont trust people when they talk about how much they make. Almost always, the quiet ones are doing better than the ones who brag about beating the system....

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Good grief. Trump had a good record and isnt unelectable, other than spending, and you are going to get spending regardless of who, as that is domain of Congress.

Only reason you and others feel he isnt electable, is because you dont personally want him, yet he was vastly democratically elected. The meaningless character aspect that seems to bother some seems to be no issue for Dems,as Harris isnt supported by anyone, other than the fact she isnt Trump.

But hey, yall want to throw the baby out with the bathwater,be my guest.

He lost to a dementia patient in 2020 and he’s going to lose to an imbecile in 2024. If he can’t beat terrible candidates like those two, how can you say he’s anything other than unelectable?

The answer is to nominate someone who isn’t so polarizing that half the country despises him / her. Almost anyone who ran in the Republican primaries would have fulfilled that requirement.

 

[McDad]

I’m sure you’re good at your job too but I know a contractor who should be in the 200k income range. When he got done with tax loopholes he got money back. The kicker is he had zero quarterly filings. So he paid nothing in but got money back. on top of that he was audited and won. It’s a wonderful system we have going.

What you're calling "loopholes" is actually tax code or tax law.

Be careful to not repeat propaganda.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Give me a break with your analytics. The same can be said for Harris. Trump was a much better President than Harris would ever be.

Some of yall are so propogandized with BS, you cant see the forest for the trees. Down right pathetic lack of logic.

Everything you say here may be true. But he has a pretty good chance of losing to someone who could not run a lemonade stand successfully.

Scream about cheating as much as you want but this should not be close and it is a virtual dead heat. He makes politically stupid blunders. I'm down in the dumps about it because if she is elected, we may have two years of pure hell if Congress and the Senate follow as well. If the Dems do away with the filibuster, it may be game over.

 

[McDad]

if Congress and the Senate follow as well. If the Dems do away with the filibuster, it may be game over.

Retain your optimism.
The 3 what ifs are unlikely.

 

[Sandman 423]

He lost to a dementia patient in 2020 and he’s going to lose to an imbecile in 2024. If he can’t beat terrible candidates like those two, how can you say he’s anything other than unelectable?

The answer is to nominate someone who isn’t so polarizing that half the country despises him / her. Almost anyone who ran in the Republican primaries would have fulfilled that requirement.

Do it like survivor. If he loses, he has to leave the island immediately. Give him the tiki torch as a consolation prize.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Retain your optimism.
The 3 what ifs are unlikely.

I hope you are right. But it is precariously too close for any comfort.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

What you're calling "loopholes" is actually tax code or tax law.

Be careful to not repeat propaganda.

The vast majority of people with $100M net worth fall into two categories.

1. Sr. Executive for public traded company (lots of transparency around comp) or a transparent compensated employee (think athlete)

2. Grew a company to be worth 9 figures (usually you get to that size by not screwing people over)

The 3rd largest criteria is inherited wealth. This is the group that tends to screw over people since they never had to build from bottom up...