2024 Presidential Race

News media isn’t essential. Honest/unbiased news media is essential. There is a difference.
i think bias in the media is natural and unavoidable. The media trying to pretend that they don’t have a bias is the problem. Just own up to it. Most US cities used to have a conservative paper and a liberal paper. You read both and drew your own conclusions. And it worked
 
Here is why I don't think the right-wing outrage over Hitler comparisons is genuine :


^^^^ The right-wing has been too quiet over this, and too forgiving of it. ^^^^

This righteous indignation is phony as hell.

There's no "outrage", it's humorous to this right wing guy. I'm still interested in knowing how Harris and others are going to peacefully allow a fascist threat to our democracy assume office without looking like complete fools.
 
On garbage…
It was an unforced error for the Trump rally to have the comedian make that joke. However, as it regards the island of Puerto Rico, it has been known to have significant recycling and rubbish issues.

About Biden’s comment, it once again highlights how democrats and media get to mind read and editorialize comments. Prominent figure says something, and we’re told what she/he really meant wasn’t what they actually said. Usually results in a favorable interpretation for one side and an unfavorable one for the other.

I've been to PR a few times, there's a lot of garbage lying around. If you ever go to Old San Juan the day before trash day it's piled up all over the street. Stinks to high heaven.
 
There's no "outrage", it's humorous to this right wing guy. I'm still interested in knowing how Harris and others are going to peacefully allow a fascist threat to our democracy assume office without looking like complete fools.
According to Trump .... she's a fascist too.
 
That's why it was critical to the success of trumpism to convince people that the media was biased and dishonest.

Because trumpism could never thrive in a well informed society.

Are you saying people have to be convince of that?

I'm so confused. Nobody has to be convinced of that. The only person that would have to convince of that is the mental ill person like yourself that wears a face diaper. Of course, trying to convince the mentality ill that they are ill is a tough job all by itself.
 
When Teddy Roosevelt charged up the hill, it was a hill of garbage..the history books omit this fact.
 
I can easily believe that.

Of course, you'll believe all kinds of stuff. Global sea levels are rising so great the people in the Louisiana probably won't be able to get out in the next million years.

We're getting support, supplies, boats and equipment together now. With a bit of luck... we'll save a few.
 
Of course, you'll believe all kinds of stuff. Global sea levels are rising so great the people in the Louisiana probably won't be able to get out in the next million years.
Show me where I said that .... and I will never post in the politics forum of VolNation again.
 
Show me where I said that .... and I will never post in the politics forum of VolNation again.

No you just imply stuff and say that NASA said it. Guys, "climate change"... its huge. Just shut up and go put your mask back on.

Don't worry you're not alone... .Luther is a double diaper wearer. Claims the high road when he voted for 3 people who admitted to murdering an American kid.

You guys got it all figured out.
 
One was said by a third rate comedian (who I had never heard of)
The other was spoken the President of the United States.
See the difference?
That's not a difference. He had a stadium full of people laughing along with calling Americans garbage, immediately crying like a baby when it's flipped back at you is weak as hell
 
Show me where I implied that the people of Louisiana "won't be able to get out in a million years."

This is rich.

You didn't say it, you avoided the real discussion. If the sea water rises, the **** on the coast gets flooded.... its not complex.

Yes, you would believe almost anything... which is why you wore that mask with pride.
 
I've been to PR a few times, there's a lot of garbage lying around. If you ever go to Old San Juan the day before trash day it's piled up all over the street. Stinks to high heaven.

it's almost like this is a real thing (the joke by the unknown to me insult comic wasn't funny to me... ymmv)

 
There's no "outrage", it's humorous to this right wing guy. I'm still interested in knowing how Harris and others are going to peacefully allow a fascist threat to our democracy assume office without looking like complete fools.
The same way they did in 2016, I guess.
 
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I've been to PR a few times, there's a lot of garbage lying around. If you ever go to Old San Juan the day before trash day it's piled up all over the street. Stinks to high heaven.
I was there less than a year ago and that's a ridiculously stupid description of it
 
Not sure I understand your question.
I believe the news media is essential.
Not debating how necessary it is.

asking if you think it belongs as one of the "estates" that controls the masses? Do you agree it is the "fourth estate for controlling the masses" or do you believe "news media is not something that is controlling the masses"? where on that spectrum do you put it?
 

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