2024 Presidential Race

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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
I wonder how much Harris is paying these actors/singers/losers to appear at rallys?

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How can Kamala possibly think that trotting out Cardi B, Beyonce, and x,y,z famous actors actually will appeal to the blue collar rust belt voter? You know, the voter block she actually needs in order to win the election? She is beyond out of touch with reality.
 
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Matt2496 said:
How can Kamala possibly think that trotting out Cardi B, Beyonce, and x,y,z famous actors actually will appeal to the blue collar rust belt voter? You know, the voter block she actually needs in order to win the election? She is beyond out of touch with reality.
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All about “middle class” families.
 
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Ashevolle said:
If you think the inflation problem is a result of the last 4 years, you clearly don't understand what's going on. But hey, some people just can't see too far in front of their nose and kick the dog when things go wrong, because the dog is the closest thing to blame.
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So how much does the cost to produce and ship products affect prices? Energy prices affect everything that moves.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Yeah, that teenager that died last week because she couldn't get an abortion has nothing to do with it. Or forcing rape victims to have babies. We all just want to freely kill all the babies. Duh.
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You know, this is a very frustrating take on abortion from both sides- let's say for brevity we'll call this RIH (rape, incest, harm to mother).

First, let's just all agree there will never be a national ban on abortion. Trump himself said he doesn't support it. Many republicans say I ONLY support abortion for RIH....Democrats say I support abortion BECAUSE of RIH. In actuality, neither side gives a crap until it's near election time or seems advantageous to them.

Much like old west bank robbers (who would light on fire the furthest building from the bank to create a distraction) abortion, trans, etc. issues are merely distractions to keep people from paying attention to the crushing debt these buffoons are imposing upon our great grandchildren. If Kamala knew for certain that flipping to pro-life would win her the election, she would do it tonight. Vice versa for Trump. These people do not care about you or the future of this country.

RIH accounts for about 1.5% of all abortions. Only 8% of abortions are done by people aged 19 and under. 90%-ish of abortions are done by adult women and have nothing to do with life-or-death situations.

Abortions hit their all-time high around the end of Regan/beginning of HW Bush at around 1.5mil per year. That number steadily dropped over the decades to an all-time low of 850,000 in 2017 (down around 50% from an all-time high in 1991). Many celebrated/bemoaned the overturn of Rowe v Wade. Few realize abortions have actually gone up since then. Trump was the first President in 30+ years that saw an increase in abortions during his term (8%). Some say limiting funding for birth control caused this, while others say it was due to expanded access to abortions in liberal states.

No matter what side you're on, I think most would agree it's typically not a great experience for women. Access to contraceptives has been shown to be the best tool for driving down abortions.

But hey, if the need for abortions went away, that would be one less thing for the left/right to get people riled up about. They don't want these complicated issues eliminated; they want you distracted.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Yeah, that teenager that died last week because she couldn't get an abortion has nothing to do with it. Or forcing rape victims to have babies. We all just want to freely kill all the babies. Duh.
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Amazing to care so much for a cause but not enough to know the young ladies name you’re advocating for. Saying that teenager shows you truly don’t care at all.
 
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Really have no idea what the outcome of this election will be because I know X and Insta feed me articles and stories that align with my beliefs. So it’s easy to get fooled into thinking everyone agrees with you when you spend a lot of time on these platforms. At this point, both sides are confident and think the other side is in panic mode.
 
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So as the election enters the final stretch the RCP betting odds aggregate is converging back to a toss up. It peaked around 4 days ago right at 64% for Trump and has been coming down ever since. Right now it’s 58.3% Trump. So just like all the rest of the predictors, polls or odds or tea leaves, Vegas seems to be moving towards a toss up also. @BowlBrother85 I’m guessing you actually like the sentiment indicated in THESE odds … right?

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The Original Fade said:
Really have no idea what the outcome of this election will be because I know X and Insta feed me articles and stories that align with my beliefs. So it’s easy to get fooled into thinking everyone agrees with you when you spend a lot of time on these platforms. At this point, both sides are confident and think the other side is in panic mode.
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I think Trump carries everything but the blue wall. Nevada. Arizona. NC. GA etc.

What I’m worried about is MI, PA, and WI. If she’s sweeps, it’s over.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So as the election enters the final stretch the RCP betting odds aggregate is converging back to a toss up. It peaked around 4 days ago right at 64% for Trump and has been coming down ever since. Right now it’s 58.3% Trump. So just like all the rest of the predictors, polls or odds or tea leaves, Vegas seems to be moving towards a toss up also. @BowlBrother85 I’m guessing you actually like the sentiment indicated in THESE odds … right?

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I'm still going to say that betting odds mean nothing .... they are not forecasts or predictors.

Also, these 5 right-leaning pollsters are factoring too heavily into the aggregates :

Rasmussen Reports
Trafalgar Group
Data Orbital
Insider Advantage
Atlas Intel

As soon as the latest Rasmussen Reports poll is dropped off the Real Clear Polling calculus, they always have an instant update ready to go, and they are never transparent with how their data was compiled. That is suggestive of an agenda.
 
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It all boils down to ... does this country have enough citizens that are allowed to vote that are ignorant enough to vote for Harris. Probably, but I don’t think so this time, I think more will hold their nose and vote for Trump rather than the certain disaster of Harris. What a damn catastrophe we’ve put ourselves in.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:


^^^ this is why I no longer identify as a Republican folks. The Republican party did almost nothing to keep the Dimwits from stealing another election. Trump and his team have done this all on their own. They did very little to support Trump and get things done between 2016 and 2018 when the Republicans had Trump AND Congress and could have REALLY helped get our country back on track. They didnt support him because he is an outsider that isnt bought and paid for by the MIC and other donors like they are.

Its absolutely disgraceful. The right wing and left wing in DC are parts of the same sick bird. They do little to nothing to represent those who elected them. They bow down to their billionaire backers.
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The republicans are the bigger problem. Democrats are way more radical but they stick together. Republicans are spineless
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm still going to say that betting odds mean nothing .... they are not forecasts or predictors.

Also, these 5 right-leaning pollsters are factoring too heavily into the aggregates :

Rasmussen Reports
Trafalgar Group
Data Orbital
Insider Advantage
Atlas Intel

As soon as the latest Rasmussen Reports poll is dropped off the Real Clear Polling calculus, they always have an instant update ready to go, and they are never transparent with how their data was compiled. That is suggestive of an agenda.
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So what’s your prediction. Not a gotcha. Genuinely curious.

I’ve got it 312-226 with Trump sweeping the blue wall. Tight races across the board.

Won’t be surprised if she wins a close one though. I could see her sweeping the wall as well for a 270-268 win. I would be WAY more surprised if she picked up GA, NC, Arizona on the way.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm still going to say that betting odds mean nothing .... they are not forecasts or predictors.

Also, these 5 right-leaning pollsters are factoring too heavily into the aggregates :

Rasmussen Reports
Trafalgar Group
Data Orbital
Insider Advantage
Atlas Intel

As soon as the latest Rasmussen Reports poll is dropped off the Real Clear Polling calculus, they always have an instant update ready to go, and they are never transparent with how their data was compiled. That is suggestive of an agenda.
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The consensus usually leans left though. Has in 2016 and 2020.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
So what’s your prediction. Not a gotcha. Genuinely curious.

I’ve got it 312-226 with Trump sweeping the blue wall. Tight races across the board.
Won’t be surprised if she wins a close one though. I could see her sweeping the wall as well for a 270-268 win. I would be WAY more surprised if she picked up GA, NC, Arizona on the way.
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I really don't know what to expect. Nothing will surprise me. I do not envision either candidate sweeping the battleground states, however.

I don't think the polls have been much help this time. I don't think anyone knows who is going to win right now. Partisanship has infiltrated the election news cycle to such an extent (from both sides) it's hard to know what to trust and what to dismiss.

I will say that I think Harris has a very good shot at winning NC.
 
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