2024 Presidential Race

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VOLS INC. said:
My family and I have stopped investing, tithing, saving, etc. we essentially live off of the minimal amount of money that we can, and we send the rest to the US treasury. We write a big check every month.

Because they know best! They will spend it wisely. 😉
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You are a patriot!
 
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luthervol said:
I've been pretty clear that I will support any candidate who repudiates trumpism.
We'll just have to see how Vance evolves.
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Hopefully he does.

But we need to repudiate the policies of the current Democrat party as well. It's the biggest reason Trump won. Between open borders, lax enforcement of laws, commitment to expensive foreign conflict......

All this has resulted in a significant drain on the economy, inflation is killing the middle class.

IMO Harris/Biden's campaign was run as if this were a robust economy and people weren't hurting. They were really out of touch with the average American.

This was a choice between two flawed candidates, I thought it would be close but Kamala would win. In retrospect I think the single biggest factor in her losing was her inability or unwillingness to separate her candidacy from Biden.
 
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LouderVol said:
did you miss this thread pre-election results? the blue hats were gloating bigly. so big that one of them refuses to show their face to eat crow.
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Oh, I don't blame you .... We democrats deserve it.

"I've been informed by a close adviser that a recount will not be mandated by law."

^^^^ How Walter Mondale began his concession speech in November of 1984. ^^^^

My favorite political quote, by the way.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Oh, I don't blame you .... We democrats deserve it.

"I've been informed by a close adviser that a recount will not be mandated by law."

^^^^ How Walter Mondale began his concession speech in November of 1984. ^^^^

My favorite political quote, by the way.
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don't get me wrong, many of them are going way, way too far. all this talk about retribution does nothing. but again its not a one sided issue. both sides were doing it, and ignoring when their own side did it, because they weren't part of the threatened group.

both sides need to actually hold their own side accountable. based on the results in 2024 the Dems need to start first.
 
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LouderVol said:
don't get me wrong, many of them are going way, way too far. all this talk about retribution does nothing. but again its not a one sided issue. both sides were doing it, and ignoring when their own side did it, because they weren't part of the threatened group.

both sides need to actually hold their own side accountable. based on the results in 2024 the Dems need to start first.
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Yeah .... but I don't think we have ever had such a lopsided election cycle in the White House and both chambers before. There is no spinning this - we got our a$$ kicked sideways. It was ugly.
 
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LouderVol said:
which is more scientifici: blindly trusting what people were telling you, or looking at the data and doing the math on the particle sizes involved?

yes it was. it was only the scientists that weren't clear. Fauci's own emails said from day one the masks weren't going to work. the science never changed, only your perception of it. you kept your head buried and refused to even acknowledge the actual data.

what's worse, is anyone who actually did any research on those they were listening to, you know a more scientific approach than blindly trusting their status, would have known Fauci's history. he already had a history of running social experiments to detriment of those he was supposedly helping while driving division within the nation with all of his lies during the AIDs scare. but you fell into the White Coat fallacy, no science involved.

it was never about harmony, it was about control. what is harmonious about telling people they can't go outside? What is harmonious in taking actions that drove up child suicide rates higher than their Covid deaths? what was harmonious about people losing their jobs, separating them from their loved ones, and threatening actions against them for noncompliance? anyone who applies the least bit of logic, a cornerstone of science, would know you are spouting as much BS now, as they were back then.

and instead of admitting you were wrong, moving on, and looking to correct past mistakes, you know the whole scientific process, you instead double down on being wrong back then.
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Doubling down? Head in the sand? How do you figure? You guys maintain the false assumption that I was somehow pro-mask.
That's simply lazy on your part. I hated masks and wore them only when I had to.
And when I had to; I cut the inside lining out to make it less invasive.
I simply recognized the fact that the world was in a pandemic with great unknowns that included catastrophic worst case scenarios.
The last thing that was needed was idiot fringes......which were plentiful.
 
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KB5252 said:
Hopefully he does.

But we need to repudiate the policies of the current Democrat party as well. It's the biggest reason Trump won. Between open borders, lax enforcement of laws, commitment to expensive foreign conflict......

All this has resulted in a significant drain on the economy, inflation is killing the middle class.

IMO Harris/Biden's campaign was run as if this were a robust economy and people weren't hurting. They were really out of touch with the average American.

This was a choice between two flawed candidates, I thought it would be close but Kamala would win. In retrospect I think the single biggest factor in her losing was her inability or unwillingness to separate her candidacy from Biden.
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I agree. I've always said that it wasn't about trump's policies.
 
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