2024 Presidential Race

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LouderVol said:
is it? thats an assumption, because nothing is shown for the X axis. that could 100% be an arbitrary line, that could be votes over beer consumption per inning of baseball watched. it could be votes per 1000 counted. it could be votes per Honda accords.

they are literally giving you half the information and hoping you make an assumption that pisses you off. no honest statistician is going to present a chart without the X axis filled in. given that its obviously a political take designed to make you angry, and you don't have enough information to even know if you actually should be angry.
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Exactly. There is no way to know what the hell that means, given what information was provided.
 
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LouderVol said:
is it? thats an assumption, because nothing is shown for the X axis. that could 100% be an arbitrary line, that could be votes over beer consumption per inning of baseball watched. it could be votes per 1000 counted. it could be votes per Honda accords.

they are literally giving you half the information and hoping you make an assumption that pisses you off. no honest statistician is going to present a chart without the X axis filled in. given that its obviously a political take designed to make you angry, and you don't have enough information to even know if you actually should be angry.
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Who said I was pissed off, you seem more angry than me..

It is a ratio of votes, and of course it is time, not your off the wall hypotheticals. LikeI said, I dont know if accurate.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Who said I was pissed off, you seem more angry than me..

It is a ratio of votes, and of course it is time, not your off the wall hypotheticals. LikeI said, I dont know if accurate.
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someone was upset enough to post it without knowing what it really says. they just know someone told them it fits some preconcieved bias, so they jump on it.

it COULD be time. that may even be the most reasonable ASSUMPTION. but that doesn't make it the case. like I said, whoever made that chart, did so in a dishonest manner; which makes me suspicious regardless of the subject matter, or how I feel about it.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Who said I was pissed off, you seem more angry than me..

It is a ratio of votes, and of course it is time, not your off the wall hypotheticals. LikeI said, I dont know if accurate.
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Why not show the whole graph? There is no way that was done by accident. Nobody who is trying to prove something legitimate is that sloppy. There is no way to even know what the hell it's trying to show.

It looks like something designed to rile people up, without actually having to lie and present false data. This way, it allows someone who is already of a mind to believe that fraud occurred, to fill in the blanks for themselves as to what it actually means.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have said it before .... An echo chamber is what they seem to prefer. For them, this forum is more about seeking an affirmation of their belief system, than it is having constructive debates with substantive dialogue, where opposing perspectives are being presented.
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Seems this problem is prevalent.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Why did you include my post with this?
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You brought up echo chambers and seeking affirmation. This Democrat rep is stating that he’s receiving backlash from his colleagues and others for trying to discuss an issue in which they have differing opinions.

I replied to your post to make the point that it seems to be a prevalent sentiment.
 
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Even Post-Election, The Media Still Can’t Grasp That They’ve Lost America’s Trust​

It’s been a week since Donald Trump’s landslide re-election and some Democrats are using words like “realignment,” “self-reflection” and “regret.” It seems most on the losing side are rethinking their far-left policies on immigration and the entire social agenda.

Let’s wait and see because for the left, these are matters held as near-religious doctrines.

One group apparently having no regrets, remorse or even self-reflection is the media, which overwhelmingly favored Kamala Harris for president.

nypost.com

Even post-election, the media still can’t grasp that they’ve lost America’s trust

The mainstream media refuses to admit the people who live in the vast red territory between New York and California are worth understanding.
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LouderVol said:
someone was upset enough to post it without knowing what it really says. they just know someone told them it fits some preconcieved bias, so they jump on it.

it COULD be time. that may even be the most reasonable ASSUMPTION. but that doesn't make it the case. like I said, whoever made that chart, did so in a dishonest manner; which makes me suspicious regardless of the subject matter, or how I feel about it.
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It is deductive logic...it is Time. But whatever, my guy won and I am happy as a clam.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Seriously.

What do you think that graph shows without the independent variable data from the x-axis displayed (it should be below the horizontal line)? There is no way to know what the hell that even means ... but please tell us if you know.
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You think it's perfectly fine to have a normal practice of taking over a week to count ballots. There is very little you do understand.
 
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just bob said:
You think it's perfectly fine to have a normal practice of taking over a week to count ballots. There is very little you do understand.
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LOL. In Arizona, it is normal practice, and within their laws.

Now, answer my question. It seems like you are trying to dodge it :

What conclusion can be drawn from that graph, or any graph for that matter, without displaying the independent variable below the x axis - that's the horizontal line?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL. That doesn't make any sense. No graph has any meaning when it is void of the independent variable. Do you think that graph reveals some form of election fraud? If so, please explain why.
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says the guy who used “logic” to argue about diary rings for weeks..lmao
 
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Orangeburst said:
says the guy who used “logic” to argue about diary rings for weeks..lmao
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It really seems like you guys just want to change the subject .... and do not want to answer the question :

Do you think that graph, without an independent variable below the x axis, proves election fraud? Simply saying that it should represent "Time" doesn't tell us anything about how it proves fraud. It doesn't tell us anything at all, actually.
 
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Orangeburst said:
It is deductive logic...it is Time. But whatever, my guy won and I am happy as a clam.
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sure, but why do they want you to deduce anything? why not flat out present the WHOLE truth?

this falls into that saying "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics". its an easily avoidable basic "mistake" that is going to call into question what is being presented.
 
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C-south said:
You didn’t know diaries were kept in trapper keepers and easily forged?
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I have long since admitted, I was probably wrong .... I was skeptical of its contents because the couple who found it were clearly out to make as much money as they could from it, from the moment they found it. It was also sold to Project Veritas, who has a history of tampering with evidence and bribing witnesses to lie for them ....

Now that I have shown that I can admit when I was wrong, and explained why ... can anyone answer this question :

How does that graph prove that fraud occurred, when it doesn't even include an independent variable?
 
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