2024 Presidential Race

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Septic said:
I hear you saying he made the judgement call and that it was the wrong call. At what point does donny take any blame for anything he's done? Where does the buck stop where you work?

Scores of his administration's top officials, cabinet members, Generals, physicians and other experts have called the guy a buffoon at best while he blames them for his failures. Is there any point where you hold the b-list real estate agent accountable for anything? And if not, why should Biden be held accountable for the failures of his handlers?
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And that's the biggest red flag with Trump. Some very sharp, non swamp people, say he's a moron.
 
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volfanhill said:
Disagree there would have been. Now Clinton would have seized massive power. Shut shat down left and right. Biggest piece of credit I give Trump. Not trying to over extend executive power during Covid. I can't think of another POTUS in my lifetime who wouldn't have seen that as a great excuse to take more control.

He was right. I was wrong
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I don’t think Covid would have happened had Hillary been POTUS. But everything else you mentioned is correct.
 
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volfanhill said:
And that's the biggest red flag with Trump. Some very sharp, non swamp people, say he's a moron.
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I can't think of anyone that doesn't see him as a meal ticket saying that he's got the chops to be the leader of the free world.
 
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Septic said:
I hear you saying he made the judgement call and that it was the wrong call. At what point does donny take any blame for anything he's done? Where does the buck stop where you work?

Scores of his administration's top officials, cabinet members, Generals, physicians and other experts have called the guy a buffoon at best while he blames them for his failures. Is there any point where you hold the b-list real estate agent accountable for anything? And if not, why should Biden be held accountable for the failures of his handlers?
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I admitted it was the wrong call, but hindsight is 20/20. I can see why he made it. WTH would anyone he or his advisers know about a pandemic. And frankly, he didn't implement any oppressive measures. All done at state level.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump did not lose because of covid. He lost because enough people were motivated to end his bizzaro world ego mania tour to shut him down. The worry now is that enough Dems are disillusioned with Biden, given his age, that they stay home.

A lot can happen between now and then. Who knows, maybe Trump will mix and match enough people in his noggin to raise questions abiut his age, too. He'll be 78 soon.
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Of course there's going to be other reasons for people. That's always going to happen. That was the hot button issue though,at that time,and no matter what good was going to be done, it wasn't going to be enough. I do agree with disillusioned voters this election mostly due to "been there, done that" and age. I don't want to vote for Trump again, but nobody else is really standing out unfortunately.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I admitted it was the wrong call, but hindsight is 20/20. I can see why he made it. WTH would anyone he or his advisers know about a pandemic. And frankly, he didn't implement any oppressive measures. All done at state level.
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So you're blaming him? Or not?

Was he responsible for trotting out Fauci and then sticking with him?
 
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Orangeburst said:
Septic you said you would vote for Haley, someone who worked for Trump, so you don't question her judgement.
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The argument isn't about who he hired, it's that almost everyone he hired and worked with him closely think he's a g.d. idiot.
 
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vols40 said:
Shocking that Neocons oppose a president who did not get us involved in new wars.
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It's not shocking that a MAGA sycophant would try to boil all of these people down to butthurt warmongering neocons.

do better.
 
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vols40 said:
And everyone from St Nikki's home state are endorsing President Trump
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What does that have to do with all of Trumps men calling him an unfit buffoon? Why do you keep moving the goalposts?

I get it, it's an answer I wouldn't envy having to overcome, it's tall fence to climb.
 
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Septic said:
What does that have to do with all of Trumps men calling him an unfit buffoon? Why do you keep moving the goalposts?

I get it, it's an answer I wouldn't envy having to overcome, it's tall fence to climb.
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Neocons litter that trash list from nbc news to CNN to wapo so don't tell someone about "lowering the bar"
 
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vols40 said:
Neocons litter that trash list from nbc news to CNN to wapo so don't tell someone about "lowering the bar"
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Why did donny hire all those neocons? Seems like serious leadership flaw to hire so many from the "trash list."
 
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Septic said:
Why did donny hire all those neocons? Seems like serious leadership flaw to hire so many from the "trash list."
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Fair point. Still doesn't mean that they aren't part of the swamp and have axex to grind like middle school girls. If it is any consolation they won't make the list this time
 
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