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allvolrecruiting said:
He's a known seller in the postseason. Those teams at Marquette were far too talented to exit when they did each year.

First round exit (2021-22) - Justin Lewis (17ppg/8rpg), Darryl Morsey (13 ppg), Kam Jones, Tyler Kolek, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, Oso Ighodaro
Second round exit (2022-23) - Jones, Kolek, OMP, Oso
Sweet 16 exit (2023-24) - same team but no OMP. However Kam Jones and Tyler Kolek continued their quick development and turned into two of the best guards in the country

Those last two years were arguably a top 5 team and played one second weekend game. Let's add some context to those numbers. I get Kolek was dealing with injuries but still. Then like you said he already followed Barnes once in a major job and failed to even win a tournament game. He's better as the underdog in a job with less pressure it seems like
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But it's still year over year improvement after a tenure that never saw him win an NCAAT game.

And with that 2021 team (his first team), especially, it seems like you're giving a lot of misplaced credit to the kind of players those guys would become, not who they were at the time as freshmen and sophomores. Kam Jones, Tyler Kolek, Olivier-Maxence Prosper, Oso Ighodaro...all those guys were contributors (Kolek in particular), but not really the studs they later became. They averaged a combined 26 ppg, 11 rpg, 9 apg. Certainly nothing to sneeze at or discount, but split amongst 85 combine minutes.

My point is that if the expectation is that when Barnes hangs it up, that we will hire someone with more combined experience, recognition, and credentials than Shaka Smart, I think people are likely in for a rude awakening. If you could guarantee me we'd get him, I'd take it immediately, because in all likelihood, we will do much worse in at least one of the bolded areas. It doesn't mean that coach will be a worse coach, but there will be a lot of risk involved, and I've lived far long enough to see Tennessee butcher it's fair share of coaching hires in attempt to go cheap and/or find lightning in a bottle. It's a gamble.
 
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War room this morning basically said no idea what Mallory is going to do Saturday. Very weird considering Virginia doesn't have a coach, Marylands coach very well might go to Villanova, I can't imagine the Hokies have any NIL money. Guess we will see where he ends up.
 
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Chaz-Vol said:
War room this morning basically said no idea what Mallory is going to do Saturday. Very weird considering Virginia doesn't have a coach, Marylands coach very well might go to Villanova, I can't imagine the Hokies have any NIL money. Guess we will see where he ends up.
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Most expect him to recommit to Virginia, have to wonder if he talked to Odom and was assured of him getting that job once VCU season was over
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Hope we pass on this kid and just use the portal.

Kid likely wouldn't contribute next season and would more than likely transfer anyways.
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I tend to agree in general that there’s probably only around 10-15 high school recruits that are ready to contribute as freshman and if they are then they are also 1&D candidates or can be bought away by a different college team like the guard who left Auburn for bama this year. NIL$ appears to have better value on portal transfers
 
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walkenvol said:
I tend to agree in general that there’s probably only around 10-15 high school recruits that are ready to contribute as freshman and if they are then they are also 1&D candidates or can be bought away by a different college team like the guard who left Auburn for bama this year. NIL$ appears to have better value on portal transfers
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I think it's significantly more than 10-15, but it requires the right fit and circumstance, and perhaps one's definition of "contribute".

Simply based on ranking and perceived talent, Zakai Zeigler wouldn't have been on anyone's preseason list of freshman contributors before his first year. Same for Grant Williams. Mid-majors across the country have freshmen making major impacts every year...then they enter the portal and cash in. Just look at the guys we've been in contact with.
 
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Legion of Doom said:
I think Vols get him. No reason in world for anyone to pick Virginia over Vols with where programs are at.
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Well when it’s your home state school and the team you grew up rooting for there’s your reason.

If any of us would have ever had the chance to play for UT we would in a heartbeat. I’d say most would choose us over a team like Duke or Kansas.
 
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