2026 QB Faizon Brandon's Mom to sue state of NC

[volinSmyrna]

There will no longer be a need for the term VFL. They will only be a VOL until someone outbids us. Forget about stadium and facilities upgrades once the university becomes financially responsible for the athletes as "employees". The entire budget will be spent on paying youngsters that are, for the most part, not mature enough to handle the sudden influx of wealth. Child actors have not lived very long lives, on average, for the same reason. I would be more excited if they were all coming here for the right reasons and not just as mercenaries. Not one single coach or player at ANY level of sports deserves to make the money they do. There are a lot of people with jobs that can have a legitimate effect on everyone that don't make as much combined.

Tell me you don't understand Economics or how markets work without telling me...

 

[deatojl]

BS!! Keep the playing field level! What's good for the goose is good for the gander!! Sorta goes back to the old saying "them thats got,,, gets!"

To be clear, I don't agree with NIL being banned for public schools, I was merely offering reasoning on why that ban may not apply to private schools. I also think this will be a pretty easy lawsuit to win and get the ban overturned. Generally speaking, though, if the government isn't providing the same funding for private schools that they are to public schools, why should they have the same oversight power over them?

 

[Pride85]

Or maybe VFL will be more prestigious and only given to those who stay throughout their entire college career. By the way we were paying our players long before this.

I’m all for child labor. Let’s go straight North Korea on these players. Nil deals of a couple nickels.

Should I have to blue font this.

Tell me you don't understand Economics or how markets work without telling me...

Interesting takes.
1) Paying the players or not, their benefits FAR outweigh anything a student can ever hope to earn if they spent a lifetime working while they go to school. I would like you to show me ANY evidence of a 6 figure payout to any one prior to NIL. Unlimited food, best housing available, free health care and paid tutors with a chance to start a career without any debt was always there as well. VFL is a term that is going the way of the dodo rapidly.

2) Pretty immature take (blue font or not) considering the "normal" students...you know the ones that actually have to find a way to pay to get an education, get zero benefits from going to school. Most would kill to have a complete free ride worth of tuition, little less the other benefits. A significant portion of them will go on to have an actual REAL impact on the rest of us. NIL was intended to allow the athletes to be able to set up a session to sign autographs and get paid for it, or to act as a spokesperson. The claim was that it would never be a pay for play scheme. Only a true idiot believed that was ever going to be the case.

3) Yes, that type of economics drives the drug cartels. If we make it and get them hooked on it, we can charge unlimited amounts for it. We all pay for those big TV contracts in increased cost for all the products being advertised. If your emphasis is economics, look up "wage push inflation", you might find it eye opening.

For those thinking I am just picking on the athletes, actually read my post. You might have missed a word or two.

 

[Erich]

To be clear, I don't agree with NIL being banned Generally speaking, though, if the government isn't providing the same funding for private schools that they are to public schools, why should they have the same oversight power over them?

Well, the lawsuit isn’t asking for government oversight of private schools. It’s challenging the arbitrary restriction of NIL for public school students.

If a student is an actor, musician, or tech whiz they are absolutely free to earn income. No logical reason to restrict athletes.

 

[newyorkvol]

Interesting takes.
1) Paying the players or not, their benefits FAR outweigh anything a student can ever hope to earn if they spent a lifetime working while they go to school. I would like you to show me ANY evidence of a 6 figure payout to any one prior to NIL. Unlimited food, best housing available, free health care and paid tutors with a chance to start a career without any debt was always there as well. VFL is a term that is going the way of the dodo rapidly.

2) Pretty immature take (blue font or not) considering the "normal" students...you know the ones that actually have to find a way to pay to get an education, get zero benefits from going to school. Most would kill to have a complete free ride worth of tuition, little less the other benefits. A significant portion of them will go on to have an actual REAL impact on the rest of us. NIL was intended to allow the athletes to be able to set up a session to sign autographs and get paid for it, or to act as a spokesperson. The claim was that it would never be a pay for play scheme. Only a true idiot believed that was ever going to be the case.

3) Yes, that type of economics drives the drug cartels. If we make it and get them hooked on it, we can charge unlimited amounts for it. We all pay for those big TV contracts in increased cost for all the products being advertised. If your emphasis is economics, look up "wage push inflation", you might find it eye opening.

For those thinking I am just picking on the athletes, actually read my post. You might have missed a word or two.

Isn’t a “scholarship” for an athlete actually a “pay to play scheme?” Are they getting those academic benefits because of their academic prowess? Or their athletic capabilities? So what makes capitalizing on name, image and likeness any different? If your NIL isn’t worth anything, you won’t make anything. So in that respect, the scholarship is more of the pay for play scheme than the NIL

 

[NomadVol]

Interesting takes.
1) Paying the players or not, their benefits FAR outweigh anything a student can ever hope to earn if they spent a lifetime working while they go to school. I would like you to show me ANY evidence of a 6 figure payout to any one prior to NIL. Unlimited food, best housing available, free health care and paid tutors with a chance to start a career without any debt was always there as well. VFL is a term that is going the way of the dodo rapidly.

2) Pretty immature take (blue font or not) considering the "normal" students...you know the ones that actually have to find a way to pay to get an education, get zero benefits from going to school. Most would kill to have a complete free ride worth of tuition, little less the other benefits. A significant portion of them will go on to have an actual REAL impact on the rest of us. NIL was intended to allow the athletes to be able to set up a session to sign autographs and get paid for it, or to act as a spokesperson. The claim was that it would never be a pay for play scheme. Only a true idiot believed that was ever going to be the case.

3) Yes, that type of economics drives the drug cartels. If we make it and get them hooked on it, we can charge unlimited amounts for it. We all pay for those big TV contracts in increased cost for all the products being advertised. If your emphasis is economics, look up "wage push inflation", you might find it eye opening.

For those thinking I am just picking on the athletes, actually read my post. You might have missed a word or two.

You make some points but this oldie but goodie has to die.... ITS NOT FREE it's an exchange for services that many live with the effects for years to come. Prior to NIL they regularly pushed players out by any means necessary. Most they pass them along and they don't get an education but they get well... Why do you think the NCAA started tracking graduation rates because those millionaire coaches, boosters and the university didn't care about those players.
Normal students wouldn't get a free ride UNLESS they had something the university wants. There are plenty of normal students getting free rides for academics or some skill they can pimp.

This free stuff is a false premise.

Again I see where you are coming from and love the convo but I disagree with the what they were being given anything. Next thing I'll here is it's all on the players if they don't graduate. Ha ha. You to need to talk to some divison 1 athletes about what they had to do to maintain their scholly and what classes they could take and how much workout, film study, and practice was required to perform at that level. Don't waste your breathe on well Dobbs.... for every Dobbs there are 300 Marty and Maliks that barely have a 2.0 GPA. (Marty and Malik , white and black men no not funny? Whatever)

I honestly had no idea what they went thru. I only know 3 big time athletes and I'm 49 yrs old, the schools were UT, Penn State, and Kansas so I don't have a mountain of evidence. I'm even more impressed with walkons after listening to these guys because 98% of them have no chance in the NFL and yet do it for love of the game... Then they leave and no one knows them so they don't even get something based off fame.

Look change is hard but gloom and doom from a so called place of good ol days is a fallacy. Just because you thought they were the good ol days don't mean everyone else thought the same. From votes to BCS to computer systems to top 4 to playoffs -- all were supposed to end it as we know it.... In some ways it does but mostly it just evolves and you keep watching lol.

Go Vols

 

[MurphyVol]

It already has. College is simply football's minor league.

I actually think it might have saved college football. I've wondered for years why someone didn't start a semi-pro league for kids right out of high school. You could pay them and you offer some type of insurance. The NFL doesn't require you to go to college, it only requires you to be 3 years removed from high school.

 

[newyorkvol]

I actually think it might have saved college football. I've wondered for years why someone didn't start a semi-pro league for kids right out of high school. You could pay them and you offer some type of insurance. The NFL doesn't require you to go to college, it only requires you to be 3 years removed from high school.

And that NFL rule is really the crux of the problem. They have no interest and no reason to invest in a “developmental” league. Let the colleges figure it out. Saves them billions. They could expand their rosters to 85 and have a 32 team “minor” league to accommodate the true pro prospects and let college ball be just that. But why should they?

 

[MemphisVol77]

The entire budget will be spent on paying youngsters that are, for the most part, not mature enough to handle the sudden influx of wealth. Child actors have not lived very long lives, on average, for the same reason.

Do you have any kind of empirical data to support that? Or are you going off your feels?
A lot of child actors were exploited by their horrible parents/guardians. There are several sensationalized examples from the 80'/90's.
Exploitation was the problem.
Now there are many laws in place protecting the well being of child actors. Such as laws limiting their time on set, or laws requiring a significant portion of child actor's earnings be placed in trusts.

3) Yes, that type of economics drives the drug cartels. If we make it and get them hooked on it, we can charge unlimited amounts for it. We all pay for those big TV contracts in increased cost for all the products being advertised. If your emphasis is economics, look up "wage push inflation", you might find it eye opening

Those big contracts started exploding in the 80's. None of the money from the TV contracts has ever been paid to players. Advertising dollars have been paying the costs the entire time.

NIL won't save the system, neither will NIL break the system.

Your analogies are all over the place.

 

[Dansky]

This NIL will eventually end sports as we know it ! BS!

I’m guessing Tennessee money hasn’t made it to the household (mother) yet.

 

[volinSmyrna]

Not one single coach or player at ANY level of sports deserves to make the money they do.

3) Yes, that type of economics drives the drug cartels. If we make it and get them hooked on it, we can charge unlimited amounts for it. We all pay for those big TV contracts in increased cost for all the products being advertised. If your emphasis is economics, look up "wage push inflation", you might find it eye opening.

My original response was based on your take of they don't "deserve" it. Socialism 101...pick up an Econ textbook and/or learn some history of places that deemed people didn't "deserve" things.

Trust me, I'm pretty well-versed in cost-push inflation. Thanks.

I guess I'm just lost on your premise. Do you think players should NOT receive any benefits? If your answer is "a scholarship is benefit enough", then you can just stop right there. If you are saying that players shouldn't become "employees" of the university, then I fully agree with you.

 

[DaddyChad]

Interesting takes.
1) Paying the players or not, their benefits FAR outweigh anything a student can ever hope to earn if they spent a lifetime working while they go to school. I would like you to show me ANY evidence of a 6 figure payout to any one prior to NIL. Unlimited food, best housing available, free health care and paid tutors with a chance to start a career without any debt was always there as well. VFL is a term that is going the way of the dodo rapidly.

2) Pretty immature take (blue font or not) considering the "normal" students...you know the ones that actually have to find a way to pay to get an education, get zero benefits from going to school. Most would kill to have a complete free ride worth of tuition, little less the other benefits. A significant portion of them will go on to have an actual REAL impact on the rest of us. NIL was intended to allow the athletes to be able to set up a session to sign autographs and get paid for it, or to act as a spokesperson. The claim was that it would never be a pay for play scheme. Only a true idiot believed that was ever going to be the case.

3) Yes, that type of economics drives the drug cartels. If we make it and get them hooked on it, we can charge unlimited amounts for it. We all pay for those big TV contracts in increased cost for all the products being advertised. If your emphasis is economics, look up "wage push inflation", you might find it eye opening.

For those thinking I am just picking on the athletes, actually read my post. You might have missed a word or two.

Well I had a response typed out but for some reason the page updated and deleted it.

I think we’re in agreement on one thing. Players aren’t for the most part capable of taking the money they’re given and using it responsibly. I would like there to be some attempt at educating players to use that newfound wealth responsibly.

 

[VolJarhead]

I actually think it might have saved college football. I've wondered for years why someone didn't start a semi-pro league for kids right out of high school. You could pay them and you offer some type of insurance. The NFL doesn't require you to go to college, it only requires you to be 3 years removed from high school.

I disagree. All of the "leagues" that have been developed seemed to collapse and have struggled to ever gain traction. The NFL rule regarding the 3 years has allowed them to avoid hiring guys that create a PR nightmare. They get into college and get a decent screening before the draft. I'm a bit surprised that age discrimination seems to legally work with the NFL. I'm also not a lawyer. I'm just a local yocal that thinks it is odd.