2nd Half of Oregon game not just Inexperience and Depth?

[BellottiBold]

The Ducks are top 10-ish in number of overall offensive plays per game, but bottom 20-ish in overall time of possession. Very telling stat.

But that's by design...

One thing that Easterbrook doesn't discuss here, and a big reason why I see CK as a perfect fit at Oregon, is that since Chip Kelly became HC the defense has been incorporated into this program's identity. What I mean by that, is CK as the OC obviously had his stamp all over the offense. But now that he's HC, we're starting to see his ideas adapted by the defense. The reality is that right now, Oregon sacrifices its defense in the sense that the staff and players EXPECT to be on the field longer than everyone else, and they KNOW that they will not be a defense that shuts everything down. Instead they will rotate a ton of guys to keep reasonably fresh, and they'll look to create turnovers. Everytime they take the field, they know that whatever happens, THEIR offense can score quicker than the other guys if they need to. (And that's basically true.) The Oregon O either fires properly and marches into the endzone in less than 2 minutes, or it's stopped, and they try again next series. That's all there is to it. This is very much a numbers game for Oregon - they firmly believe (everybody standing on that sideline) that eventually the O will click - so as long as they are slowing down the other team here and there, they are in decent shape.

 

[volinexile17]

But that's by design...

One thing that Easterbrook doesn't discuss here, and a big reason why I see CK as a perfect fit at Oregon, is that since Chip Kelly became HC the defense has been incorporated into this program's identity. What I mean by that, is CK as the OC obviously had his stamp all over the offense. But now that he's HC, we're starting to see his ideas adapted by the defense. The reality is that right now, Oregon sacrifices its defense in the sense that the staff and players EXPECT to be on the field longer than everyone else, and they KNOW that they will not be a defense that shuts everything down. Instead they will rotate a ton of guys to keep reasonably fresh, and they'll look to create turnovers. Everytime they take the field, they know that whatever happens, THEIR offense can score quicker than the other guys if they need to. (And that's basically true.) The Oregon O either fires properly and marches into the endzone in less than 2 minutes, or it's stopped, and they try again next series. That's all there is to it. This is very much a numbers game for Oregon - they firmly believe (everybody standing on that sideline) that eventually the O will click - so as long as they are slowing down the other team here and there, they are in decent shape.

Interesting post, but it doesn't sound like the way to win close games. Given Oregon ever plays another close game.

 

[volinexile17]

they'll be favored in every game, not relavant to what i'm talking about. they still aren't a top-5 team IMO. i expect at least 2 losses.

I usually ignore posts/threads out of the first page, but I recently discovered I can easily search my old steps.

This thread is less embarrassing for me than some of my other predictions. (Some are really bad - I think I said Allan Carson was faster than Devrin Young....don't know why I was so down on DY.)

Has Oregon changed your mind at all?

 

[StoVol]

easterbrook is a big phat fail according to some guys that actually know something about football... check this dismantling of his shallow research

Gregg Easterbrook spread offense fail | Smart Football

Gus M says:
October 14, 2010 at 4:41 pm

Easterbrook is merely a (sometimes) entertaining read. You have to give up on the fact that he is an expert on football. He exaggerates things all the time.

Here’s a fairly recent example. Easterbrook wrote:

“In last year’s playoffs, Arizona led Green Bay 31-10 in the second half — and was lucky to prevail in overtime. From the point of the 31-10 lead, Cardinals coaches called 16 passes and six rushes. Incomplete passes kept stopping the clock and keeping the Packers in the contest: After reaching a 31-10 edge, had the Cactus Wrens done nothing but run up the middle for no gain, the Pack’s comeback might not have happened. ”

You read this without watching the game and you think about how badly the Cards blew it by stopping the clock completely. But that’s not what happened.

What actually happened was that Green Bay scored a TD, recovered an onside kick, then scored another TD. So the Cards never had the ball offensively with a 31-10 lead. They next had the ball with a 31-24 lead.

Second of all, the stat 16 passes and 6 runs is misleading because 11 of the passes and three of the runs happened with the game tied.

Third, Arizona didn’t stop the clock with a bunch of incomplete passes. Warner had only 2 incomplete passes after it was 31-10.

another

Teo says:
October 14, 2010 at 5:08 pm

MAN that ESPN article is AWFUL. I don’t know what’s worse, “standard 50 plays college playbook”, “Oklahoma ran the Franklin spread to get to the BCS title game”, “the wishbone today has completely disappeared (HELLO GEORGIA TECH)”, or the whole part about the different option plays. Seriously, i have been reading Smartfootball for a couple of years now and i could put together a better article.

 

[bam15]

easterbrook is a big phat fail according to some guys that actually know something about football... check this dismantling of his shallow research

Gregg Easterbrook spread offense fail | Smart Football

Gus M says:
October 14, 2010 at 4:41 pm

Easterbrook is merely a (sometimes) entertaining read. You have to give up on the fact that he is an expert on football. He exaggerates things all the time.

Here’s a fairly recent example. Easterbrook wrote:

“In last year’s playoffs, Arizona led Green Bay 31-10 in the second half — and was lucky to prevail in overtime. From the point of the 31-10 lead, Cardinals coaches called 16 passes and six rushes. Incomplete passes kept stopping the clock and keeping the Packers in the contest: After reaching a 31-10 edge, had the Cactus Wrens done nothing but run up the middle for no gain, the Pack’s comeback might not have happened. ”

You read this without watching the game and you think about how badly the Cards blew it by stopping the clock completely. But that’s not what happened.

What actually happened was that Green Bay scored a TD, recovered an onside kick, then scored another TD. So the Cards never had the ball offensively with a 31-10 lead. They next had the ball with a 31-24 lead.

Second of all, the stat 16 passes and 6 runs is misleading because 11 of the passes and three of the runs happened with the game tied.

Third, Arizona didn’t stop the clock with a bunch of incomplete passes. Warner had only 2 incomplete passes after it was 31-10.

Everyone was laughing at this guy.

One of the worst articles I've ever read.

 

[volinexile17]

easterbrook is a big phat fail according to some guys that actually know something about football... check this dismantling of his shallow research

Gregg Easterbrook spread offense fail | Smart Football

Gus M says:
October 14, 2010 at 4:41 pm

Easterbrook is merely a (sometimes) entertaining read. You have to give up on the fact that he is an expert on football. He exaggerates things all the time.

Here’s a fairly recent example. Easterbrook wrote:

“In last year’s playoffs, Arizona led Green Bay 31-10 in the second half — and was lucky to prevail in overtime. From the point of the 31-10 lead, Cardinals coaches called 16 passes and six rushes. Incomplete passes kept stopping the clock and keeping the Packers in the contest: After reaching a 31-10 edge, had the Cactus Wrens done nothing but run up the middle for no gain, the Pack’s comeback might not have happened. ”

You read this without watching the game and you think about how badly the Cards blew it by stopping the clock completely. But that’s not what happened.

What actually happened was that Green Bay scored a TD, recovered an onside kick, then scored another TD. So the Cards never had the ball offensively with a 31-10 lead. They next had the ball with a 31-24 lead.

Second of all, the stat 16 passes and 6 runs is misleading because 11 of the passes and three of the runs happened with the game tied.

Third, Arizona didn’t stop the clock with a bunch of incomplete passes. Warner had only 2 incomplete passes after it was 31-10.

another

Teo says:
October 14, 2010 at 5:08 pm

MAN that ESPN article is AWFUL. I don’t know what’s worse, “standard 50 plays college playbook”, “Oklahoma ran the Franklin spread to get to the BCS title game”, “the wishbone today has completely disappeared (HELLO GEORGIA TECH)”, or the whole part about the different option plays. Seriously, i have been reading Smartfootball for a couple of years now and i could put together a better article.

Fair enough. I've never read Smart Football. I'll put it in my rotation.

 

[StoVol]

Fair enough. I've never read Smart Football. I'll put it in my rotation.

not pickin on you bro... thanks for bringin somethin to the board... i never would have even suspected easterbrook to be ignorant if i hadn't seen the article on smartfootball the day before... when i read your op the name rang a bell and i thought you'd want to know what some fairly knowledgeable football guys think about his reasoning