4.8 seconds?

#52
#52
BondJamesBond said:
If he had taken the shot against Barnes direct instruction, whether he hit it or missed, he would have been on the bench for the remainder of the year. CRB does not tolerate insubordination.
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And you of course have proof that Barnes ran a play to get him a wife open to to the basket only to have him veer away from a clear slam?
 
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Caz said:
Whatever, but we had every opportunity given to man to ice this game and we didn’t.
We lost and we have only ourselves to blame.
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A freak of an athlete passing up a wide open dunk to secure a 4 point lead and icing the game is much more bizarre than the 4.8 second scenario in this thread.
 
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This team should have never let Vandy get close to them in the 2nd half. Vandy is not a good basketball team, and we are supposed to be. None of this should have ever mattered. That's the story of the game, not the weird ending, in my mind.
 
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tdd said:
When you play not to lose, as we did, you get beat every time. Barnes teams always play tight and have a tendency to play nervous. He also makes them afraid to fail. This makes them even more tight in pressure type situations. We go .500 the rest of regular season, bow out first or second game of SEC tournament and then don't make it through first weekend of NCAA tournament. If JJJ doesn't make it back, it could be worse than those scenarios. We really have been overrated all season. Sorry, but the truth will stand when the world is in fire. Go VOLS.
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I disagree on JJJ coming back. We played 2 of our best games of the season vs KU and Zona without him. The problem I see with him is he’s either a major asset when he’s on the floor or he’s a major liability. When he’s on, we’re practically unbeatable, but when he’s off, he almost single-handily defeats us cause he rarely changes his game, regardless of how his game is going. Without him, it forced others to take shots that otherwise may be deferred to JJJ or “hogged” by JJJ for lack of a better word. It’s almost like when Tillman came back and we felt like we had to get him the ball or owed it to him, despite our 3 biggest wins coming without him on the field.

UK: 2-8 (1-6 from 3)
UF: 2-11 (0-5 from 3)
Vandy: 1-7 (0-3 from 3) limited his 3’s this game
 
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tdd said:
When you play not to lose, as we did, you get beat every time. Barnes teams always play tight and have a tendency to play nervous. He also makes them afraid to fail. This makes them even more tight in pressure type situations. We go .500 the rest of regular season, bow out first or second game of SEC tournament and then don't make it through first weekend of NCAA tournament. If JJJ doesn't make it back, it could be worse than those scenarios. We really have been overrated all season. Sorry, but the truth will stand when the world is in fire. Go VOLS.
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I wouldn’t call it play not to lose. UT wins that game 99 out of 100 times playing conservative. The refs were anxiously blowing their whistle on touch fouls in last 18 seconds calling 6 intentionally the same refs swallowed their whistle the whole 2nd half Key got face planted one time. Watch it over in slo mo ref braces his lips to call a foul but UT got the ball so he swallows the whistle. For some reason they decided to let the game go both ways. although UT came up on shortend of FTs. Maybe that’s on us not driving more but they didn’t call some when we drove JP & ON. Vandy played a real good game they hit a lot of shots right before shot clock violations around 20 points came on last second desperation shots. It was either they suddenly got great at running the clock and cashing in or this was their lucky day. That will never be replicated by Vandy IMO.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
I wouldn’t call it play not to lose. UT wins that game 99 out of 100 times playing conservative. The refs were anxiously blowing their whistle on touch fouls in last 18 seconds calling 6 intentionally the same refs swallowed their whistle the whole 2nd half Key got face planted one time. Watch it over in slo mo ref braces his lips to call a foul but UT got the ball so he swallows the whistle. For some reason they decided to let the game go both ways. although UT came up on shortend of FTs. Maybe that’s on us not driving more but they didn’t call some when we drove JP & ON. Vandy played a real good game they hit a lot of shots right before shot clock violations around 20 points came on last second desperation shots. It was either they suddenly got great at running the clock and cashing in or this was their lucky day. That will never be replicated by Vandy IMO.
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We can't continue (every game) to blame the refs for us not playing good basketball. Vandy is a good team and beat us on that night in Nashville. If we don't play better today, we will get another L. Missouri is a much better team, and they can shoot the 3 ball. I'm saying we go .500 the rest of regular season and lose the first 1-2 games in both SEC and NCAA tournaments. Barnes teams don't get better they regress this time of year. I am sorry to say this, but history is history. We just do not have anyone that can score consistently.
 
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tdd said:
We can't continue (every game) to blame the refs for us not playing good basketball. Vandy is a good team and beat us on that night in Nashville. If we don't play better today, we will get another L. Missouri is a much better team, and they can shoot the 3 ball. I'm saying we go .500 the rest of regular season and lose the first 1-2 games in both SEC and NCAA tournaments. Barnes teams don't get better they regress this time of year. I am sorry to say this, but history is history. We just do not have anyone that can score consistently.
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Except they got better last year and went to two SECT title games before that. But other than that.
 
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tdd said:
When you play not to lose, as we did, you get beat every time. Barnes teams always play tight and have a tendency to play nervous. He also makes them afraid to fail. This makes them even more tight in pressure type situations. We go .500 the rest of regular season, bow out first or second game of SEC tournament and then don't make it through first weekend of NCAA tournament. If JJJ doesn't make it back, it could be worse than those scenarios. We really have been overrated all season. Sorry, but the truth will stand when the world is in fire. Go VOLS.
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You say that but, strangely, we played better overall when we didn’t have JJJ. I’m guessing that had more to do with fresher legs and teams scheming us better now with more film to watch that’s it does JJJ being out but him being out doesn’t mean all is lost.
 
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VolGee4 said:
On that subject, review is almost always wrong on resetting a clock. As you say, the official’s signal is when the clock should be stopped- not when the actual play occurs.

I saw someone say that their addition of 0.8 when Vandy called TO was really not correct. I didn’t watch again, so I don’t know.
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They probably use intent to blow
 
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#64
JJJ is a good player but he not one of those guys that I think oh no we are in trouble if he doesn't play.
 
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ColinS said:
JJJ is a good player but he not one of those guys that I think oh no we are in trouble if he doesn't play.
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I beg to differ. He is a lock down defense guy. Can be put on the opposing team's best player and gets the job done.
 
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charleyhorse said:
Brought to you by Mr Shows.. how did they get 19 min and 40 sEC with only 2 fouls in the half.. watch the replay and count # of Tn bodies who end up on floor at some point.. and adding time to the xlock
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Shows is terrible. I hate any game he calls. These SEc refs have to be full time guys no excuse for it. The conference is printing money but can not afford full time officials.🤷‍♂️
 
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tdd said:
We can't continue (every game) to blame the refs for us not playing good basketball. Vandy is a good team and beat us on that night in Nashville. If we don't play better today, we will get another L. Missouri is a much better team, and they can shoot the 3 ball. I'm saying we go .500 the rest of regular season and lose the first 1-2 games in both SEC and NCAA tournaments. Barnes teams don't get better they regress this time of year. I am sorry to say this, but history is history. We just do not have anyone that can score consistently.
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You have to speak up about reffing win or lose. Because there’s no accountability from the SEC Administration. The only recourse or just to keep them on their heels is to let it be known if refs were missing a bunch either vs your team or both ways. If you clam up and just eat the status quo it will get worse. UK keeps a run down of each ref that calls their games and has them rated from undesirables to the best. Go on their board sometimes they will say so & so is reffing we lost 4 times when he reffed. It’s not a lot but it’s something otherwise there’s no accountability and the I don’t care rears it’s head among the refs.
 
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Pride85 said:
Yeah, that is what I thought.
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Clearly you didn't think. So you think a freshman player should ignore his coach telling him directly not to shoot and there would be no consequences? CRB will sit a player down 30 seconds after entering a game for not doing exactly what he said. If you haven't seen that, I can't help you. I wish I could make you smarter, but that's above my skill set. I don't know why people like you can't just acknowledge reality.

You have no idea what instructions he was given. But pretend you do.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
Clearly you didn't think. So you think a freshman player should ignore his coach telling him directly not to shoot and there would be no consequences? CRB will sit a player down 30 seconds after entering a game for not doing exactly what he said. If you haven't seen that, I can't help you. I wish I could make you smarter, but that's above my skill set. I don't know why people like you can't just acknowledge reality.

You have no idea what instructions he was given. But pretend you do.
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The same can be said for you. I have asked for the evidence to back up your statement that he was directed to run away from the basket on that play. None of your statement above even remotely fills that request. You stated that Rick Barnes told him not to shoot the ball. Do you have evidence to that effect? He has stated several times in multiple interviews he wants him to be more aggressive. It is hard to believe he would tell him to do the exact opposite at a critical point in the game.
 
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Pride85 said:
The same can be said for you. I have asked for the evidence to back up your statement that he was directed to run away from the basket on that play. None of your statement above even remotely fills that request. You stated that Rick Barnes told him not to shoot the ball. Do you have evidence to that effect? He has stated several times in multiple interviews he wants him to be more aggressive. It is hard to believe he would tell him to do the exact opposite at a critical point in the game.
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Barnes said he should have shot it. BondJamesBond is just running his mouth.
 
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