40% of the Democratic Party is anti-Semitic

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volbound1700 said:
That is why we beat UK in 1917? Also, the wars in the late 20th/early 21st Century have been far more lopsided and we have lost every one.
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We were on the UK's side in 1917. And our contribution to victory in WWI wasn't enormous.
Where have we fought those recent wars? Logistics matter.
Through the Korean War we generally fought regular army vs regular army with a lot of large battles. Since then, not so much, which gives advantage to the weaker foe. Someone said that in VN we were the Redcoats.
 
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EasternVol said:
We were on the UK's side in 1917. And our contribution to victory in WWI wasn't enormous.
Where have we fought those recent wars? Logistics matter.
Through the Korean War we generally fought regular army vs regular army with a lot of large battles. Since then, not so much, which gives advantage to the weaker foe. Someone said that in VN we were the Redcoats.
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I meant 1776, mind went to another place.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Well that’s different. Obviously.

And a better comp for the Confederate flag is the Palestinian keffiyeh.

Wearers and displayers of both will tell you it is some sort of symbol of heritage. Both will invoke similar notions of pride, solidarity, etc.

But the “rules” on who gets to decide what the symbol means are vastly different.

For the keffiyeh - those who display it get to decide what it means.
For the rebel flag - those that don’t like it get to decide what it means.
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I was a groomsman at a Palestinian wedding last weekend. I got to keep my keffiyeh.

The reception was held at a club that needed extra police protection due to death threats being made towards the club and its members. That was a fun twist.
 
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MercyPercy said:
I was a groomsman at a Palestinian wedding last weekend. I got to keep my keffiyeh.

The reception was held at a club that needed extra police protection due to death threats being made towards the club and its members. That was a fun twist.
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As you are certainly entitled to. I’m sure there are weddings that incorporate the stars and bars.

And how does your Palestinian friend feel about his keffiyeh? Bet he sees it as a symbol of his culture and heritage.

How do Jewish people feel about it the keffiyeh? As they see people masked up in it torching Israeli flags and screaming “beat that effing Jew!”

Those that say the wearers/displayers of the keffiyeh decide what it stands for don’t afford the same to the wearers/displayers of the confederate flag. That was the point.

Unfortunate that the wedding was marred by such ugly threats.
 
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85SugarVol said:
As you are certainly entitled to. I’m sure there are weddings that incorporate the stars and bars.

And how does your Palestinian friend feel about his keffiyeh? Bet he sees it as a symbol of his culture and heritage.

How do Jewish people feel about it the keffiyeh? As they see people masked up in it torching Israeli flags and screaming “beat that effing Jew!”

Those that say the wearers/displayers of the keffiyeh decide what it stands for don’t afford the same to the wearers/displayers of the confederate flag. That was the point.

Unfortunate that the wedding was marred by such ugly threats.
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Everyone's free to decide the what if anything either symbol represents. Wearers of the keffiyeh and those who fly the Confederate flag are all entitled to their views, as are those who don't use either.
 
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EasternVol said:
Everyone's free to decide the what if anything either symbol represents. Wearers of the keffiyeh and those who fly the Confederate flag are all entitled to their views, as are those who don't use either.
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Sure, a reasonable position.

We both know that’s not how it shakes out though.

2 different sets of rules governing who decides what Symbols & Slogans mean.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Sure, they objected to the method of funding. Doesn’t change the fact that they actually voted against the Israeli aid package.
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Doing the same thing Roger is doing lol, throw in a poison pill and say "they hate Israel" (or even more dishonest, "they hate Jews") if they don't accept it
 
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NashVol11 said:
Doing the same thing Roger is doing lol, throw in a poison pill and say "they hate Israel" (or even more dishonest, "they hate Jews") if they don't accept it
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Again, did the Democrats propose an alternative aid package for Israel?
 
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85SugarVol said:
Again, did the Democrats propose an alternative aid package for Israel?
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Why are you deflecting? Whether or not they did would change nothing about the dishonesty of "can you BELIEVE they voted against this bill out of sheer evil???" lol
 
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NashVol11 said:
Why are you deflecting? Whether or not they did would change nothing about the dishonesty of "can you BELIEVE they voted against this bill out of sheer evil???" lol
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lol. You a little spazzy tonight. They voted against it.

I never said they were evil for it. I know why they voted against it - they would never, ever vote to defund the IRS.
 
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I remember not long ago the people had a disdain for the IRS in general. Now you have some that want a bigger IRS. Of course if you make below 400K you got nothing to worry about 😉

To the actual bill, where is the money to allocate going to come from? Better get used to living within ones means. Of course people are going to complain when they can’t afford current COL, yet the Dems want their cake and eat it as well. Looming in the near future is a freaking cliff.
 
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