50 million Americans sometimes struggle to eat

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droski said:
i love the fast food is cheap argument. i 100% guarantee you i can make a far healthier meal for at least 2/3s price of mcdonalds for a family of 4. canned tomatoes and beans and rice aren't expensive.
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We used to have a person assigned in each home that would be responsible for the cooking of family meals. But over the past 40 years, we've gradually seen a decline in these people and their craft is becoming a dying profession. What were they called? I've completely forgotten their name... :banghead2:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Food deserts... the white man doesn't want supermarkets that sell fruits and vegetables in inner city neighborhoods. All they want to sell in the hood are Debbie cakes and malt liquor.

Michelle Obama Takes On Food Deserts (VIDEO)
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I don't know too many white men selling anything in da hood. I do know alot of Arabs getting govt. loans selling malt liquor, cigs. & lotto tickets and getting rich off of it. (Atleast here in Memphis)
 
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tri_vol said:
Lady told me once that she needed government assistance cause she had been unemployed for over a year. Felt sorry for her till 10 minutes later she admitted that she could get a job but didn't like her field and didn't want to go back to school. She was gonna let the government take care of her.
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Used to hang out with a guy last year that was unemployed from GM. Quit hanging around after he was complaining about his unemployment running out and how he now has to either go to school or find a job. He should have been doing that from the very beginning.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Used to hang out with a guy last year that was unemployed from GM. Quit hanging around after he was complaining about his unemployment running out and how he now has to either go to school or find a job. He should have been doing that from the very beginning.
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Spot on..
 
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myrobbins7 said:
I don't know too many white men selling anything in da hood. I do know alot of Arabs getting govt. loans selling malt liquor, cigs. & lotto tickets and getting rich off of it. (Atleast here in Memphis)
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The Arabs and Koreans are just the puppets. The white man is ultimately pulling all of the strings.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
We used to have a person assigned in each home that would be responsible for the cooking of family meals. But over the past 40 years, we've gradually seen a decline in these people and their craft is becoming a dying profession. What were they called? I've completely forgotten their name... :banghead2:
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Alice the maid
 
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and how does removing one salary from a household give them more money for food?
 
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utvolpj said:
and how does removing one salary from a household give them more money for food?
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I'm generalizing. It ain't absolute... will not work for everyone. But I will say this, since women have left the home, you have seen the types of problems pop up with childhood obesity and more dietary problems as a whole.

It would be alot more feasible for most families to do if they scaled back some. Instead of the BMW or big suv, they could actually live in their means and buy used or get a toyota/honda.

The average new home today is twice as large as it was in the 1970's. Scale back... I'm not saying that the gov't needs to step in and force this (that would be communist). But it seem slike families need to make better financial decisions and weigh what is actually in the best interests of the family.
 
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#39
Read an interesting take on how Walmart actually keeps people poor and doesn't help them move up in the world by providing inferior products at lower cost, forcing people to replace them at a higher rate than something made with quality materials and higher control.

Take a dresser for example, something that is handmade for $1200 versus a dresser made from pressboard from Walmart. The handmade one will possibly last for generations, whereas the Walmart one might last for 3 years before falling apart, if that.

I haven't shopped at Walmart for anything but food since 2007, and even then it's been strictly for emergency things. I usually build my own furniture or buy from Goodwill and refurbish it.

But I digress...

Even though I'm mostly socialist, I think the welfare system needs to be seriously reformatted and the cheaters need to be caught. I feel bad for the kids mostly.
 
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VOLatile said:
Read an interesting take on how Walmart actually keeps people poor and doesn't help them move up in the world by providing inferior products at lower cost, forcing people to replace them at a higher rate than something made with quality materials and higher control.

Take a dresser for example, something that is handmade for $1200 versus a dresser made from pressboard from Walmart. The handmade one will possibly last for generations, whereas the Walmart one might last for 3 years before falling apart, if that.

I haven't shopped at Walmart for anything but food since 2007, and even then it's been strictly for emergency things. I usually build my own furniture or buy from Goodwill and refurbish it.

But I digress...

Even though I'm mostly socialist, I think the welfare system needs to be seriously reformatted and the cheaters need to be caught. I feel bad for the kids mostly.
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1. You will love this video.

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2. If you fully reform welfare to the point where you don't reward women with checks for getting pregnant and have policies that run the fathers out of the home, you will turn the black community around in 30 years.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
2. If you fully reform welfare to the point where you don't reward women with checks for getting pregnant and have policies that run the fathers out of the home, you will turn the black community around in 30 years.
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I actually believe this to be quite true.
 
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utvolpj said:
and how does removing one salary from a household give them more money for food?
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there's a study out there that shows that a single parent, earning minimum wage, with 3 kids actually has more disposable income than a similar family that earns 60k/year.
 
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VOLatile said:
Read an interesting take on how Walmart actually keeps people poor and doesn't help them move up in the world by providing inferior products at lower cost, forcing people to replace them at a higher rate than something made with quality materials and higher control.

Take a dresser for example, something that is handmade for $1200 versus a dresser made from pressboard from Walmart. The handmade one will possibly last for generations, whereas the Walmart one might last for 3 years before falling apart, if that.
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I understand what they article was getting at, but I don't see how it's Wal-Mart keeping people poor by providing cheaper prices for lower quality products. If someone wants something more expensive, they can pay for it. If they want it cheaper, they can pay less.

It's not like Wal-Mart is the only one that sells dressers. If someone is poor and can't move up in the world because they have to buy a cheaper dresser instead of the real wood, they have other issues than what they're buying.

I just bought a shelf for my living room not long ago. Sure, I coulda paid hundreds if not more than a thousand for one that would last for 100 years. Instead I opted to pay about a $100 for one from Target that's probably pressboard. Is it going to crap out in three years? No. It's a shelf. It sits there with books on it.
 
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MG1968 said:
there's a study out there that shows that a single parent, earning minimum wage, with 3 kids actually has more disposable income than a similar family that earns 60k/year.
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That is probably correct. Single parent with 3 kids earning minimum wage would qualify for food stamps, rental assistance, Tenncare/Medicaid, families first etc.
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TheDeeble said:
I understand what they article was getting at, but I don't see how it's Wal-Mart keeping people poor by providing cheaper prices for lower quality products. If someone wants something more expensive, they can pay for it. If they want it cheaper, they can pay less.

It's not like Wal-Mart is the only one that sells dressers. If someone is poor and can't move up in the world because they have to buy a cheaper dresser instead of the real wood, they have other issues than what they're buying.

I just bought a shelf for my living room not long ago. Sure, I coulda paid hundreds if not more than a thousand for one that would last for 100 years. Instead I opted to pay about a $100 for one from Target that's probably pressboard. Is it going to crap out in three years? No. It's a shelf. It sits there with books on it.
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Wal-Mart isn't directly the culprit, but their ads and the "cheap aura" about the company is. Wal-Mart, in the end, is there to make money. They provide cheap, crappy products to consumers and promote the low price. People think, "Hey, I can go to Wal-Mart and spend half of what I can at another store and then buy more of something I want later," without ever realizing that it's a far inferior product.

This goes for all of the companies that promote low prices.
 
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VOLatile said:
Wal-Mart isn't directly the culprit, but their ads and the "cheap aura" about the company is. Wal-Mart, in the end, is there to make money. They provide cheap, crappy products to consumers and promote the low price. People think, "Hey, I can go to Wal-Mart and spend half of what I can at another store and then buy more of something I want later," without ever realizing that it's a far inferior product.

This goes for all of the companies that promote low prices.
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what is the inferior and superior product here?

WM carries national brands.

Should everyone shop at Whole Foods (the ultimate food rip off)?
 
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volinbham said:
what is the inferior and superior product here?

WM carries national brands.

Should everyone shop at Whole Foods (the ultimate food rip off)?
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There was a similar store in Nashville that I tried to sell hydroponic tomatoes to a few years ago. They told me I would have to ship my tomatoes to their distributor in Cincinnati and they would get them from there. I live 30 mins. from their store. :crazy:

I took a look at the tomatoes they were selling (which looked horrific) $4 a lb. (which makes good sense considering their distribution idiocy) Last time I went by there, they were no longer in business.
 
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VOLatile said:
Wal-Mart isn't directly the culprit, but their ads and the "cheap aura" about the company is. Wal-Mart, in the end, is there to make money. They provide cheap, crappy products to consumers and promote the low price. People think, "Hey, I can go to Wal-Mart and spend half of what I can at another store and then buy more of something I want later," without ever realizing that it's a far inferior product.

This goes for all of the companies that promote low prices.
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Aren't pretty much all businesses, in the end, there to make money? Whether it cheap products or high quality if no money is made, they will not have a business for long.

See, I think they do realize it's a far inferior product. And even if they didn't, I'd think once they got burned they'd realize, "Hey, this stuff is low quality." And if they continue to spend large sums of money replacing stuff they bought cheap, well then they have bigger problems to deal with than what they're buying.

But then again, I also realize that living within your means and not taking on rediculous debt is a good thing, so I don't know if I follow the common line of thought of many Americans today.
 
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