51% of Americans pay no Fed income tax

#26
#26
Money put in offshore accounts would have already been taxed when received as income. The Alternative Minimum Tax negates shelters and deductions.

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Good read.
 
#27
#27
I listened to a Warren Buffet interview, where he said it was very easy to pay zero income tax for people in his income bracket. he said you setup a company to loan money from a holding company to your company and you could always show a loss. I'm paraphrasing here, he said he didn't do it because he thought it was ethicly wrong, but he said it was perfectly legal.

buffett is full of it. what % of billionares or teh ultra rich have 95% of their net worth tied up in a public, not private, company they themselves control. i bet a very small percentage. his tax rate is so low because he never sells any of his stock and dividends are taxed at 15%. arguing this is normal for rich people is absurd.
 
#28
#28
I don't know...offshore accounts, tax shelters, deductions. I'm not rich enough to know how it works.

tax shelters are generally something from the 80s that don't exist anymore. reagan basically put the tax shelters out of business. real estate is really the only legal way to avoid taxes because of the deprication and 1031 exchanges, unless you count muni bonds. personally i'm all in favor of changing those rules. i've never understood while real estate gets these advantages.
 
#29
#29
Good read.

I read. He said, "I seriously doubt most of those in the top quintile actually pay the top rate".

My guess is that most in the top quintile get hit with the Alternative Minimum Tax and don't have the resources for Skyscraper Shuffle, The Venti, The Bountiful Loss, etc.
 
#31
#31
I listened to a Warren Buffet interview, where he said it was very easy to pay zero income tax for people in his income bracket. he said you setup a company to loan money from a holding company to your company and you could always show a loss. I'm paraphrasing here, he said he didn't do it because he thought it was ethicly wrong, but he said it was perfectly legal.

You are citing the Buffets of the world. Most rich do not fall in that category. Obama classifies the rich as those earning $250,000 or more.
 

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