8 UN employees killed as revenge for burning of Koran

[utvolpj]

Just curious if all the 1st Amendment Defenders cross referenced their replies in this thread to any in threads about the 'Ground Zero Mosque'?

Disclaimer: I think Jones is an a$$hat that knew exactly what he was doing. I also believe he did nothing illegal. I'd hate to see anyone burn the flag but I couldn't legally stop them.

I understand where you're going with that and would like to think my responses are consistent

 

[therealUT]

The funniest thing about this outrage LG is having is while I don't agree with the preacher's actions, his point was pretty much proven with these Islamic reactions.

Because Afghanistan is the only Muslim nation, right? Add to that, Afghanistan was relatively peaceful until this past week?

*This post has been brought to you by sarcasm. Sarcasm, when slamming your own head against your desk doesn't quite do...

 

[therealUT]

By the way, if the following does not scare you more than any Muslim ever could (see what I did there???), then you should lose your right to vote (unless, of course, you are over 30 and have a job):

Reid: Probe of Quran Burning Considered

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says congressional lawmakers are discussing taking some action in response to the Koran burnings of a Tennessee pastor that led to killings at the U.N. facility in Afghanistan and sparked protests across the Middle East, Politico reports.

“Ten to 20 people have been killed," Reid said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “We’ll take a look at this of course. As to whether we need hearings or not, I don’t know.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham said Congress might need to explore the need to limit some forms of freedom of speech, in light of Tennessee pastor Terry Jones’ Quran burning, and how such actions result in enabling U.S. enemies.

"I wish we could find a way to hold people accountable. Free speech is a great idea, but we're in a war," Graham told CBS' Bob Schieffer on “Face the Nation” Sunday



Read more: Senators Want to Punish Koran Burning - Koran Burning - Fox Nation

I like how, according to Graham's skewed world-view, freedom of speech is simply a good idea, not an inalienable right!

Let me be the first to extend my thanks and appreciation to the voters of Nevada and South Carolina.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

obviously there isn't, based on our testing, but they will get good knowledge about putting on condoms and understanding homosexuality. most government schools have become lib indoctrination camps. need need to study math and science when you can get a job with the government

is that ok milohimself?

Somebody didn't get their diploma...

 

[utvolpj]

By the way, if the following does not scare you more than any Muslim ever could (see what I did there???), then you should lose your right to vote (unless, of course, you are over 30 and have a job):



I like how, according to Graham's skewed world-view, freedom of speech is simply a good idea, not an inalienable right!

Let me be the first to extend my thanks and appreciation to the voters of Nevada and South Carolina.

the Constitution's really just a guideline

 

[volinbham]

By the way, if the following does not scare you more than any Muslim ever could (see what I did there???), then you should lose your right to vote (unless, of course, you are over 30 and have a job):



I like how, according to Graham's skewed world-view, freedom of speech is simply a good idea, not an inalienable right!

Let me be the first to extend my thanks and appreciation to the voters of Nevada and South Carolina.

Wow.

 

[therealUT]

Wow.

Yes, I just sent the good Senator an email. Hopefully, it gets through his staffers...

 

[BeecherVol]

Yes, I just sent the good Senator an email. Hopefully, it gets through his staffers...

Doubtful.

Your opinion is wrong, hateful, and those viewing will see you as the minority that had nothing to do with why they got where they are. Thus your opinion will be viewed as irrelevant.

 

[therealUT]

Doubtful.

Your opinion is wrong, hateful, and those viewing will see you as the minority that had nothing to do with why they got where they are. Thus your opinion will be viewed as irrelevant.

Most of the time I would agree with you, however, I have noticed that I usually get responses (even phone calls) from federally elected officials when they have an option to put your rank down for your prefix. As well, I try to make my letters as diplomatic and compelling as is possible concerning the situation.

The thing that might keep this from being viewed, though, is the fact that I am not one of his constituents; this is the first time I have felt I needed to contact someone on whom my vote has no impact.

 

[rjd970]

By the way, if the following does not scare you more than any Muslim ever could (see what I did there???), then you should lose your right to vote (unless, of course, you are over 30 and have a job):



I like how, according to Graham's skewed world-view, freedom of speech is simply a good idea, not an inalienable right!

Let me be the first to extend my thanks and appreciation to the voters of Nevada and South Carolina.

Grahams anti-constitutional talk should be making headlines. That is crazy.

 

[gsvol]

 

[VOLatile]

Wow... that's some impressive cameltoe.

 

[Through_The_T]

Ah, another SC government official doing us proud. Graham is an embarrassment and a fool...

 

[therealUT]

Would you care to explain why the Iranian government would want to work with us on anything of substance? I think its a stretch to think they would. Short of us taking their stance toward Israel. Or are you suggesting going thru the population.

I am currently reading Rumsfeld's memoirs, Known and Unknown, and he claims that the Iranian government immediately reached out to the US government to express their condolences, after the 9/11 attacks. The claim is substantiated by both the NYTs and the WP, on September 12, 2001.

While the sympathies expressed were most likely insincere, the opportunity was certainly there for our government to talk with the Iranians and change our diplomatic approach to them.

 

[therealUT]

Coventional units keep the security as tight as possible. Unconventional units cannot do their jobs without security or logistical support for that matter. Afghanistan isn't ready to take on that responsiblity and won't be anytime in the near future.
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General Hugh Shelton advocated, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs in the fall of 2001, that our only military response towards al Qaeda should be air strikes and CIA operations in country.

I understand your concern about logistics, as we conventional infantry units routinely found ourselves as the shaping efforts for Task Force and ODA; however, I also put great trust in Shelton's knowledge of the capabilities and limitations of all things unconventional.

 

[BeecherVol]

I am currently reading Rumsfeld's memoirs, Known and Unknown, and he claims that the Iranian government immediately reached out to the US government to express their condolences, after the 9/11 attacks. The claim is substantiated by both the NYTs and the WP, on September 12, 2001.

While the sympathies expressed were most likely insincere, the opportunity was certainly there for our government to talk with the Iranians and change our diplomatic approach to them.

Interesting. I agree the sincerity was likely not heart felt.

Is it possible that they saw a militant in Bush and thought they could get off the future strike list with such a move? It would have to be something along those lines assuming they really didn't mind 9/11 happening.

 

[CSVol]

I am currently reading Rumsfeld's memoirs, Known and Unknown, and he claims that the Iranian government immediately reached out to the US government to express their condolences, after the 9/11 attacks. The claim is substantiated by both the NYTs and the WP, on September 12, 2001.

While the sympathies expressed were most likely insincere, the opportunity was certainly there for our government to talk with the Iranians and change our diplomatic approach to them.

This is a fact that is conviently overlooked by many. It goes deeper than merely Rumsfeld's narrative. Earnest or not, a true diplomat would have known how to twist this to our advantage.

 

[gsvol]

 

[gsvol]

 

[rjd970]

Somebody actually gets it:

There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we will kill you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies criticizing you for “racism” and “Islamophobia.”

Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks : Sam Harris

 

[gsvol]

Somebody actually gets it:



Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks : Sam Harris

Strange, without reading my posts, rjd seems to be coming around to my way of thinking.

The politically correct policy:

DO burn (many) Bibles in Afghanistan, to avert moslem riots.

DO NOT burn qu'rans in America, again, to avert moslem riots!

Who gives a rat's ass if moslems riot?

Additionally:

YouTube - Obama - The "Mansourian" Candidate, and Wallace

and:

Obama camp denies Sutton story - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

I believe Percy Sutton was one of the Tuskegee Airmen.