9-11 Myth Video........

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So, you guys are telling me that you do not believe that a man claiming to be a hard-line GOP, hosting a video compilation on Google is not 100% trust worthy?

What is the world coming too when you cannot trust Google and you tube....

Shame on you!
 
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I watched this last nite, it is believeable, and I'm hardcore conservative. The fact that building 7 went down the next day and had very little damage compared to the other buildings that were right under the 2 towers yet they didn't crumble. that's very interesting. and the fact that when they were showing how in a demolition explosions go off before it crumbles, and you can see before the floors crumble to a certain point that there are explosions going off. weird. or how bout how on those floors the workers heard construction going on and saw a lot of dust, but no one there. all of it is just a little weird.
 
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I like many here would hate to know that our own nation, for whatever reason, would orchestrate and attack on our own people/soil for a political point. These things are intresting to me though if for no other reason than this, would'nt an entity who would do this count on the majority of especially conservatives to discredit the possibility of such a sries of events, and its authors? In 30 years time down the road should it become fact, how many conservatives here would admit...I was wrong, and I was wrong as well for not being open minded to the possibility?
 
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Aren't hyper-conservatives typically the ones that come up with nutjob stuff like this though?

If this were proven to be true, I'd have no problem admitting I was wrong, but honestly . . . isn't this out there no matter which political party you are associated with?
 
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fascinating to note that many who believe these 9-11 conspiracies are the same ones who wonder if the Holocaust really occurred.

Building 7 collapsed because it was heavily damaged when 200 million pounds of WTC 1 and 2 collapsed close by.

Debunking The 9/11 Myths - Mar. 2005 Cover Story - Popular Mechanics

page 5 specifically references WTC 7. did you know that fire burned, uncontrolled, for hours on the 5th floor?

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.
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MG1968 said:
fascinating to note that many who believe these 9-11 conspiracies are the same ones who wonder if the Holocaust really occurred.
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Yeah . . . There aren't too many people who only believe in one conspiracy theory. Typically the same people who think there was something fishy about 9/11 also lay in bed at night wondering about the Holocaust and why we made a "lunar" landing at Area 51.
 
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GAVol said:
Yeah . . . There aren't too many people who only believe in one conspiracy theory. Typically the same people who think there was something fishy about 9/11 also lay in bed at night wondering about the Holocaust and why we made a "lunar" landing at Area 51.
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Wouldn't that be true because its a matter of perspective? Some people do believe the government of the United States are doing things that some would label conspiracies, because of entities like the FBI,CIA, and others. Of course to be objective if those 1st two mention can't/won't even share data when it even involves the security of a nation its probably doubtful that high maintenance conspiracies could be operated. I think it just boils down to some people trust, some don't.
 
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Interesting movie...

Too be honest you have to look at what happend on 9/11 and ask if what you saw was the truth or not. See if it was a 737 and not a 747 that hit the towers, it's plausable that some freakish occurance of events could have happened bein' when they built the towers, they were basing it on the size of planes back then.. and the 747 doesn't compare to older planes. But the 737 isn't too much bigger than the 707 so you can rule that out.

The buildings falling... 3 of them... 1 was not even near the plane crashes, nor the closest to the towers as I recall and had minimul damage. No visible internal structural damage. The buildings went down in the fashion of a controlled demolition and to this day, those are the only steel buildings that fell because of fires.

No building and I repeat no building falls at a free fall speed and in it's own shadow like that without extra help. Itt should have toppled due to the fact that each floor should offer resistens and the planes did not exactly hit the middle of the building. Most of these things I know because my father studied some engenering, also the steel in the buildings could not be even warped by jet fuel fire, it's max burn temp is just above half of what is needed to even begin to affect the steel.

And lets not forget the IRS building that fell also, it was not even the closest building to the towers but it fell when it had minimal damage.

I've seen too many controlled demolations with my father and that was a controlled demolation... There is no doubt in my mind.

And what about the white house? Yhey found a passport that was on the plane but no wings or nothing else exept a fanblade that was way to small to be an airliner engine. No wings on the outside? I mean those things would have sheered off and stayed outside as showed in other photos in the movie.

You know what's ironic about the whole thing? The movie V for Vendeta was right, the best way for a goverment to controll it's people is to scare them into obedience and that's exacly what happend. As soon as that happend the patriot act came into effect.

PS

One more thing, how the hell do you highjack a plane with box cutters!? (It's the reason that even nail clippers became forbidden on flights.)


In no way am I saying this was an act by the governemnt, hell, if anything I'd say that the highest tier staff of WTC would be the main ones to blame if these were to be put to the main media (CBS, NBC etc).

Just my 2 cents -- If you have any furthur information to counter please tell... These are always good for H.S. research papers, my teachers love controversial subjects that aren't too grim. :idea:
 
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how the hell do you highjack a plane with box cutters!? (It's the reason that even nail clippers became forbidden on flights.)
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You threaten a couple of people and tell everybody there's a bomb on board.

In no way am I saying this was an act by the governemnt, hell, if anything I'd say that the highest tier staff of WTC would be the main ones to blame if these were to be put to the main media (CBS, NBC etc).
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Not sure I understand what you are saying. Who are you calling "highest tier staff of the WTC"?

my teachers love controversial subjects that aren't too grim. :idea:
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3,000 people dying on a September morning not grim enough for you?
 
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Thanks for cherry-pickin' the last one to make me look like a dick. :good!:

I didn't mean for it to sound like that, some times I don't proof read... as you can tell.

Not sure I understand what you are saying.
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I was implying that if this video were to be proven true that I would not see it as the government were responsible.. but more as the top WTC staff (ie president of WTC)
 
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Not trying to make you look like anything - just responding to your post. My question is, why would the people that run the WTC want to destroy their own buildings and kill all their tenants?
 
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WTC 5. Enough said... Billions and billions of dollars in cases that just disapeared... insurance benefits.. who knows -- There are some sick people out there and will stop at nothing to fulfill their $$ needs.

Please no more question.. I can't think straight
 
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I'm pretty sure thay nobody just stashes away "billions and billions" in cases.
 
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