9 wins, no room and #1 class...

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Tennessee has 28 scholarships for this class. I truly believe that with 9 wins and some coming in a dominating fashion and closer than expected losses to UF and Alabama, that TN will have to tell some guys who are committed to think about some other options.
Looking at all the uncommitted out there right now is a kid in the candy store and it is really good to be on so many kids list still. After we start the season I think we improve in mind of many kids, and lots of other programs decline (Miami, ND, UCLA).

I want to look by position and say who I think may have to move.

RB: I think we may get Dyer. If we do not I think we will get Palardy's Italian sounding teammate whose name I am too lazy to look up right now. Giovanni Bernard? Anyway I think we are graduating Hardesty and we will give out 1 scholarship here. No way that Seastrunk and Dyer both want to come, and I think if Dyer and Storm Johnson both wanted to come, we would just take Dyer.

FB: Channing Fugate. His Rivals rank sucks, but that is because they view the entire state of Kentucky as not good at football. He is the third best prospect in the state to them and yet is a 3 star. Had a great start to his year: Breathitt County star, and University of Tennessee committ, Channing Fugate ran the ball 13 times, for 224 yards and five touchdowns Friday night, in a 58-24 victory over Mercer County.

QB:
Quit dreaming, Phillip Sims is not switching his commitment (even though Askew will not stop working him). We have no depth here because Coleman left but I believe we are not having to count Lamaison in this class because he is already there. I think we will take Bray and that might be it. We also are still talking to Baty. Many believe that if the staff really wants him we could still get Brunetti away from WVU, but at this point I think that would mean that we failed to get Bray.

OL:
Zach Fulton, very close relationship with the coaches and was considered the best looking OL in camps where he played with higher ranked players. Coaches love his potential and this 3 star is not going anywhere as a commit and may shoot up the rankings.
Jose Jose, we do not want to burn any bridges in Miami. He is real big, he is not the most explosive.
Marques Pair. I would say that if I had to guess on the guy who might end up getting walked back if push came to shove it would be this young man. He is listed as the 22nd best recruit in SC and we have guys on the board who we would be delighted to have.

Who do we want on the OL (probably our biggest position of need)? Damien Robinson, James Stone, Arie Kouandjio (and little brother next year maybe) and current Alabama commit JaWuan James.

K: Michael Palardy. The lowest ranked kid on the board who there is no way we do anything but adore the rest of the way. He is an absolute beast of a kicker and could be a gamechanger under Neyland's maxims.

WR:
Markeith Ambles and Matt Milton are two 4 stars with upside. They could each end up being better than Prater. Demarco Cobbs may complete this group, but Meline may be interested still as well. We only take 4 stars at this point at this position IMO and no changes will be made. Kenny Stills and Ted Meline are also very real possibilities. Interestingly Trovon Reid, Shakim Phillips and Joshua Reese are all technically still possible at this point. I do not expect any of them, but I do expect TN to develop a great reputation amongst this class of WR after we play Nu'Keese and Teague a ton.

TE:
Delvin Jones and we are done. This is helped by Mosely being here as well. Welcome Jamal, at UT we do not mind white women dating our football players.

DT:
John Brown was a 5 star DT coming out of HS and then he had to go the JUCO route. The staff loves him.

Pat Harris chose us over Utah and Utah State...He is called a beast by some, but I do not think he is as highly coveted by other schools as many of the guys on our board at DT. I do think they are stronger on him than on

Risean Broussard. He never got the LSU offer and some are nervous that if he does he may bolt. Having him in purple and gold may work out okay. "Idiot! Crazy! Know nothing!" well that is because of the following...

Who else are we in the running for?
George Uko I think is coming: George Uko - Yahoo! Sports
He is an absolute stud. He is taking an official in October.

Kelcy Quarles:
Kelcy Quarles - Yahoo! Sports
He committed a very long time ago (11/08) to the Gamecocks and after this season I think he may start feeling better about us. He is probably coming to visit very soon...
and Todd Chandler
Todd Chandler - Yahoo! Sports
out of Miami who may want to be coached by Warren Sapp's coach instead of staying home and playing for a new coach (Miami may well have a firing after this season)

DE
Jacques Smith may be called the cornerstone of the class even if he ends up as a cornerstone. This guy has been recruiting for the Vols, he is a freakish athlete and a great kid.
J.C. Copeland a 4 star and not going anywhere.
We are also in it for
Ego Ferguson J.R. Ferguson - Yahoo! Sports who is coming out of Hargrave, has friends here, has visited here and likes us and
Ronald Powell who is a 5 star DE and who most say will choose between USC and UF. We are running third even though we offered first, but I think if we can get him out here we may well end up with him.
Harris, Broussard etc. What if we end up with an awesome season and Uko and Chandler want to come?
If either of them came it would be the most talented DE group at school since Sean Ellis and Leonard Little. TN has some pretty good tradition as well with Reggie White.

LB is where I think things could change maybe more than anywhere else. Our starting LB is smaller than me! That is not to mock the kid, it is to point out that we have an all NFL staff but we do not have an Al Wilson, a Raynoch Thompson or an Eric Westmoreland.
We are currently looking at this class:
JC player Bruce Irvin who is a grown man coming into the OLB spot who is looking so good that USC is reportedly sniffing around (according to his JC's main citizen reporter)
3 star Michael Taylor who was courted by Miami, GT, VT and most of the SEC LSU, Georgia, Bama but not Florida
and 3 star Ralph Williams whose offer list included Michigan, FSU and Miami but who is 77th at his position according to Rivals.
Lance Thompson pulled Taylor out of Atlanta (an area we need to keep pulling from) and Ralph Williams is a Miami guy who Gran brought. Look at the talent at the position considering us still:
Rivals.com Prospect Rankings
Jeff Luc and C.J. Mosley.
Mosley is an Alabama boy, 8th best prospect in the state to Rivals who has us alone as an SEC school in his top 5. C.J. Mosley - Yahoo! Sports
Jeff Luc is the player many of us recruiting junkies dream of. Jeff Luc - Yahoo! Sports We have to battle UF, and OSU and USC but most people seem to think he is a Seminole.
We are also still in it for Victor Burnett from CA who is coming for a visit.
I would love to get Khairi Fortt, Christian Jones or LaDarius Owens but I think we get none of them. We do get Josh Shirley though from CA and that is a great get! Travis Williams is also possible.

Safety:
Our new Eric Berry is Dietrich Riley from CA. Our new Eric Berry will probably be no one, because he is superman, but Riley is a very talented player and back there with JJ they will have sick athleticism comparable to Berry and Morley with two brains instead of one.

DB:
It would be great to pull Milliner away like Janzen Jackson but no one at Alabama is getting fired and I do not see it happening. Could we get Lamarcus Joyner? Yes and we could get Luc, but it is much much more likely they both end up at FSU.
If we get a visit from Joshua Shaw, we may get him, which would be unreal in terms of CA talent coming east this year. John Fulton is a SC boy interested in us but strong lean to play for Spurrier. If they suck this year and Garcia melts down again, I think we could get him.
Wright to USC, Mitchell to FSU, but we are in the running. Cody Riggs is Geralds little bro, and we could possibly maybe get him but I think he is headed to UF.
If we get none of these guys we may end up with Hurd, or Trimble.



So what would happen if we had a final 15 that looked like:
James Stone
Damien Robinson
Arie Kouandjio
JaWuan James
Dietrich Riley
DeMarco Cobbs
Joshua Shaw
Josh Shirley
Jeff Luc
Ronald Powell
Ego Ferguson
Bray
Dyer
Uko
Quarles or Chandler

You would see Ralph Williams to Miami as a switch, Marques Pair to SC as a switch and Risean Broussard to LSU as a switch without really any hard feelings.


TN would also if that fantasy occurred, have the number 1 class, surpassing Texas.

The woman that you are referring to did not date Mosley. And for the record her dad is not a big time donor nor is he a bank president. Gundy and Holder decided that 3 run-ins with the law in 6 months was enough for them.

This article was released on the Tulsa World website yesterday evening.


Previous rape complaint filed against former OSU player
OSU starting tight end Jamal Mosley left the team this week. CORY YOUNG/Tulsa World file


By SUSAN HYLTON World Staff Writer
Published: 9/4/2009 9:16 PM
Last Modified: 9/4/2009 10:51 PM

STILLWATER — Jamal Mosley, who quit the OSU football team after being accused of raping a female student in August, had been accused of raping another student in March, the Tulsa World has learned.

A rape examination was performed and evidence was collected in that earlier allegation, but the case was closed when the victim decided not to cooperate in the investigation.

“At this time the victim is not sure if she wants to press charges because she does not want the suspect to lose his scholarship,” according to the Oklahoma State University Police Department report, dated March 12, that was obtained by the Tulsa World.

The report says the woman went into Mosley’s room at Bost Hall late on the night of March 6 and waited for his arrival.

When he arrived, she thought he was drunk because of his behavior and loudness, which she said was the opposite of his “normal shy self.”

The woman told campus police that she told Mosley “no” and tried to push him off when he initiated physical contact, according to the report.

She said he pinned her hands above her head and broke her zipper when he pulled off her jeans before forcing intercourse on her, the document says.

She told police that she went home but returned to Mosley’s room after he sent her a text message about 12:30 a.m. March 7, asking her to come back and discuss the situation. She said she left again when he again initiated sexual contact, according to the police report.

She told police that the two later exchanged text messages:

“That’s so messed up how you just took advantage of me and you have no idea,” the report says she wrote to Mosley.

Mosley replied that he was sorry. Two days later, he texted again, saying, “Do what you have to do,” the police report says.

A source close to the Cowboys football program indicated that Mosley and the woman dated for two months after the alleged rape.

OSU spokesman Gary Shutt said he is not sure whether evidence collected in the closed case was kept on file or destroyed.

Shutt said police are still investigating the rape that is alleged to have happened in August.

A relative of the woman in that case said most of the rumors going around on radio and Internet forums are completely false.

It is Tulsa World policy not to identify alleged victims of sexual assault or their relatives.

“The talking heads have been vicious, and it’s unfortunate. We’re talking about a lady whose life is already traumatized, and they’re just feeding the fire for ratings,” said the victim’s relative, who serves on the board of governors for the OSU Foundation.

The relative said one of the biggest rumors is the notion that Mosley, a starting tight end, did nothing wrong and was railroaded out of town in a political deal.

“She knew him. I don’t know if she was dating him or not, but to me that doesn’t matter,” he said. “You can’t rape your girlfriend.”

The relative said he believes that Mosley’s actions — two alleged rapes and a marijuana charge — during his time at OSU should be “enough to kick you off any team.”

OSU football coach Mike Gundy announced earlier this week that Mosley, a sophomore starter, had left the team for personal reasons.

The victim’s relative said his family member is white but that the woman who told police Mosley raped her in March is black, “so they can’t pull the race card on it.”

The victim’s relative said the incident is a “lose-lose situation” for everyone.

“We as a family … have left it in the hands of the DA,” he said.

Gundy was not available for comment Friday, a university spokesman said. Gundy deferred all questions to Shutt.

Shutt said campus police have no formal policy on notifying the coaching staff when one of their players is a suspect in an alleged crime.

“They’re not obligated to,” he said. “With the incident in March, the coaches were not told about it because the reporting party did not want to pursue it, so the case was closed. The police did not contact the coaches about this incident once it was closed.”

When Mosley and his teammate Dexter Pratt were being investigated in June on an allegation that they had marijuana in their apartment, police called coach Dale Patterson in an effort to locate the players for questioning, records show.

“I contacted coach Patterson of OSU football to inform him what I found in Pratt’s and Mosley’s residence,” the officer said in the report.

According to the report, police were dispatched to an “unoccupied room.”

A residential assistant told the officer no one was living in the apartment, but the officer wasn’t convinced after seeing a television that had been left on and marijuana residue on a coffee table, according to the officer’s report.

The RA then told police that the two football players lived there, according to the officer’s report.

Mosley and Pratt blamed a woman from Oklahoma City for bringing the marijuana to their residence and said their use was “experimental.”

Records do not indicate that the woman was charged. Marijuana possession charges were filed against Mosley and Pratt in July.

World sports writer Bill Haisten contributed to this story.


By SUSAN HYLTON World Staff Writer
 
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The woman that you are referring to did not date Mosley. And for the record her dad is not a big time donor nor is he a bank president. Gundy and Holder decided that 3 run-ins with the law in 6 months was enough for them.

Poke Grad. You have now gone to different threads to post this story while not making it clear which part you are writing and which part was in the story.

Sounds like a black girl claims she was raped last spring by Mosley and then she dated him for two months and never pressed charges. The coaches were not aware of this.

Then over the summer he smoked some weed and lied about it and got a misdemeanor possession rap.

Then he dated a white girl. Her dad is not a booster, but her aunt is a big booster? Then he was run out of town. If he was a rapist I would expect Mr. "I am a grown man" Gundy to distance himself instead of saying he is a great teammate.

Is the white girl who slept with him a relative of yours?
 
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A little dilusional but I like your thinking. There is 0 chance that our class finishes like that.. I do think we get one of Uko, Quarles, and Chandler. We probably won't get a top RB, but will likely take a guy like Keon Williams.

We are still a decent season or two away from a top class.

JMO

Are you surprised how great this class is turning out? At safety with Dixon and Cooper possible it is better than I could even guess back then!
 
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Are you surprised how great this class is turning out? At safety with Dixon and Cooper possible it is better than I could even guess back then!

No not really. I never said I didn't have faith in the staff. I still stand by what I said, and I don't think we get the #1 class. Personally, I think you are that delusional Tennessee fan that thinks we will get every prospect that visits, which so many other fan bases make fun of us. I still think you need to start thinking a little more realistically and sum up your thoughts a little better.

The only two prospects that I currently think we have a good shot at that I didn't previously are Luc and Chaz Green.
 
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No not really. I never said I didn't have faith in the staff. I still stand by what I said, and I don't think we get the #1 class. Personally, I think you are that delusional Tennessee fan that thinks we will get every prospect that visits, which so many other fan bases make fun of us. I still think you need to start thinking a little more realistically and sum up your thoughts a little better.

The only two prospects that I currently think we have a good shot at that I didn't previously are Luc and Chaz Green.

This coaching staff certainly thinks they will get every prospect that sets foot on rocky top that they want. I know we won't land all the top guns but with kiffin and company on the job I like our odds.
 
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No not really. I never said I didn't have faith in the staff. I still stand by what I said, and I don't think we get the #1 class. Personally, I think you are that delusional Tennessee fan that thinks we will get every prospect that visits, which so many other fan bases make fun of us. I still think you need to start thinking a little more realistically and sum up your thoughts a little better.

The only two prospects that I currently think we have a good shot at that I didn't previously are Luc and Chaz Green.

Come on man, we turned down Leifheit and will only take Stone if we miss bad and we do lead for D Robinson. How about when I was guessing on guys, I picked one who was committed to Alabama and now he will probably be joined by a guy everyone assumed was Florida's and a stud JUCO. So we get 3 OL commits who are better than the 4 guys you said we would be lucky to get 1 of.

We are doing better than my "delusional class".

I was way off on the California recruits but I never thought we would end up with both Luc and Christian Jones and that is a very real possibility.

We also are going to have decommits and kids who are urged to look elsewhere and it will not all be grades.

I did not accuse you of not having faith in the staff, I wanted you to acknowledge that this class is shaping up incredibly well!

I would not repost this to get e-cred, I just guessed on guys and I underestimated the staff. I thought we would have a number 1 class, but I also thought 9 wins and now 8 is the only real possibility.

There is no way at this point I think to overestimate the staff. What Rival fans make fun of us for thinking we get everyone? I have only ever said I thought we get 1 top RB, and it is Dyer and I still think we get him. I think rival fans are too busy crying to mock TN. If you do not think South Carolina would be devastated as a state to lose Byrnes boys and Quarles...Florida to lose Chaz Green, Luc, Palardy, C Jones etc?

We are recruiting incredibly well at 4-4. At 8-4 I think we will definitely have the number 1 class and I think we will have more momentum than anyone in the country for next years class. Eventually we will be in the spot of Alabama and Florida in terms of depth scaring off young talent, but like those teams we will also be attracting the interest of everyone because we will be perceived as an elite team.

Kiffin and staff have done all of this in 1 year. That is amazing and wonderful.
 
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Come on man, we turned down Leifheit and will only take Stone if we miss bad and we do lead for D Robinson. How about when I was guessing on guys, I picked one who was committed to Alabama and now he will probably be joined by a guy everyone assumed was Florida's and a stud JUCO. So we get 3 OL commits who are better than the 4 guys you said we would be lucky to get 1 of.

We are doing better than my "delusional class".

I was way off on the California recruits but I never thought we would end up with both Luc and Christian Jones and that is a very real possibility.

We also are going to have decommits and kids who are urged to look elsewhere and it will not all be grades.

I did not accuse you of not having faith in the staff, I wanted you to acknowledge that this class is shaping up incredibly well!

I would not repost this to get e-cred, I just guessed on guys and I underestimated the staff. I thought we would have a number 1 class, but I also thought 9 wins and now 8 is the only real possibility.

There is no way at this point I think to overestimate the staff. What Rival fans make fun of us for thinking we get everyone? I have only ever said I thought we get 1 top RB, and it is Dyer and I still think we get him. I think rival fans are too busy crying to mock TN. If you do not think South Carolina would be devastated as a state to lose Byrnes boys and Quarles...Florida to lose Chaz Green, Luc, Palardy, C Jones etc?

We are recruiting incredibly well at 4-4. At 8-4 I think we will definitely have the number 1 class and I think we will have more momentum than anyone in the country for next years class. Eventually we will be in the spot of Alabama and Florida in terms of depth scaring off young talent, but like those teams we will also be attracting the interest of everyone because we will be perceived as an elite team.

Kiffin and staff have done all of this in 1 year. That is amazing and wonderful.

Crap like that is why I don't have any respect for you. Outside of Lord Vader and delusional Tennessee fans nobody thinks we currently lead for Robinson. Some people believe UT may end up with him, but we certainly do not lead for him by any means.

Personally, I would rather be a realist and while holding out hope that we get some of these guys rather than believe we get them and possibly get disappointed. But whatever, you have your views I have mine. This is the last time I'm going to debate you about opinions, however delusional they may be.
 
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Crap like that is why I don't have any respect for you. Outside of Lord Vader and delusional Tennessee fans nobody thinks we currently lead for Robinson. Some people believe UT may end up with him, but we certainly do not lead for him by any means.

Personally, I would rather be a realist and while holding out hope that we get some of these guys rather than believe we get them and possibly get disappointed. But whatever, you have your views I have mine. This is the last time I'm going to debate you about opinions, however delusional they may be.

Interesting you bring that up. We had that discussion in private yesterday. I agree, but I don't think we are really going after Robinson. We want Coleman. And I do think we take Stone. James and Moses are likely as well. Cullen if he comes. Everybody wants him.

So my prediction would be OT Pair, OT James, OG Moses, OT/G Cullen, OG Stone as the OL commits. We'd take OT Coleman if we could get him.
 
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Interesting you bring that up. We had that discussion in private yesterday. I agree, but I don't think we are really going after Robinson. We want Coleman. And I do think we take Stone. James and Moses are likely as well. Cullen if he comes. Everybody wants him.

So my prediction would be OT Pair, OT James, OG Moses, OT/G Cullen, OG Stone as the OL commits. We'd take OT Coleman if we could get him.

Whoa!

Morgan Moses? No one responded several times when I asked if Cregg liked what he saw during the bye week and I took the silence as no.

Everyone now, and I do mean everyone, says that OT Pair is someone the staff definitely wants, we brought him up and we visited him during the bye week. JuWuan James, of course we want, it breaks Richt's heart and is a guy we really want. Cullen is ? We were competing mainly with Utah last time I checked and I thought we would certainly win that battle.

And you apparently think we do not get Chaz Green?

We lose Fulton? I have never heard anyone on the staff liking him less than Pair.

Jose Jose to Miami?

I feel like I am reading you responding from 3 weeks ago and not today.

Chaz Green, JaWuan James, John Cullen, I think we get them and I think they are significantly better than the people JMVA said we would get.

D Robinson is someone lots of staffs have cooled on from what I read, and people like his teammate Coleman more.

JMVA has no respect for me, but he does not realize that I am not the one who looks foolish when I am correct in pointing out that we are going to do an absurd amount better on the OL than he thought.

We also may not lead for D Robinson in that we do not want him, but that is like saying we do not lead for Riggs, or we do not lead for Stone...we will get who we want. If we do not get D Robinson it will not be because he was a reach we could not attain, it will be because we got better players.

JMVA If I said we turned down Elam, laugh at me. If you think this staff is not going to be able to pull Arie K (you are right), D Robinson (wrong), J James (wrong), Stone (wrong) and Leifheit (wrong we turned him down) then I am laughing at your analysis.
 
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Whoa!

Morgan Moses? No one responded several times when I asked if Cregg liked what he saw during the bye week and I took the silence as no.

Everyone now, and I do mean everyone, says that OT Pair is someone the staff definitely wants, we brought him up and we visited him during the bye week. JuWuan James, of course we want, it breaks Richt's heart and is a guy we really want. Cullen is ? We were competing mainly with Utah last time I checked and I thought we would certainly win that battle.

And you apparently think we do not get Chaz Green?

We lose Fulton? I have never heard anyone on the staff liking him less than Pair.

Jose Jose to Miami?

I feel like I am reading you responding from 3 weeks ago and not today.

Chaz Green, JaWuan James, John Cullen, I think we get them and I think they are significantly better than the people JMVA said we would get.

D Robinson is someone lots of staffs have cooled on from what I read, and people like his teammate Coleman more.

JMVA has no respect for me, but he does not realize that I am not the one who looks foolish when I am correct in pointing out that we are going to do an absurd amount better on the OL than he thought.

We also may not lead for D Robinson in that we do not want him, but that is like saying we do not lead for Riggs, or we do not lead for Stone...we will get who we want. If we do not get D Robinson it will not be because he was a reach we could not attain, it will be because we got better players.

JMVA If I said we turned down Elam, laugh at me. If you think this staff is not going to be able to pull Arie K (you are right), D Robinson (wrong), J James (wrong), Stone (wrong) and Leifheit (wrong we turned him down) then I am laughing at your analysis.

I laugh at every single one of your posts, so at least we have that in common.

I'm done. It's pointless arguing with you.
 
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Forgot about Chaz Green. We'd take him in a heartbeat. It's just hard to get a read on some of these linemen. They seem to be the quiet type this year for some odd reason. Especially guys like Robinson and Stone. You hear rumors, but who knows if anyone even knows about those kats.
 
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Crap like that is why I don't have any respect for you. Outside of Lord Vader and James Bryant and delusional Tennessee fans nobody thinks we currently lead for Robinson. Some people believe UT may end up with him, but we certainly do not lead for him by any means.

Personally, I would rather be a realist and while holding out hope that we get some of these guys rather than believe we get them and possibly get disappointed. But whatever, you have your views I have mine. This is the last time I'm going to debate you about opinions, however delusional they may be.

fyp...

Why does nobody trust Bryant's source in Olive Branch? I don't think we are going after Robinson hard but he does like us. I know nothing on the matter besides what Bryant said. I trust his sources in MS...

X even said this morning that UT is in "good standing" with Robinson...
 
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I think D Robinson is a wait and see what happens type of prospect at this point. His stock has fallen and schools that he seems to be real high on no longer have the same feeling for him. This doesn't mean no one will take him but he is not the top priority on many boards as he once was.

MH,

In regards to SC being concerned about players leaving to go to UT, you must have just started following recruiting this year for that state. The biggest complaint any USC fan has ever had is that the best instate players go out of state. They have seem to get lucky last year and this year they will have another great instate class for them. Of course it is still not what they want, but this will be the 2nd year in a row they did better in state than Clemson, but again they always have prospects leave the state, so nothing special agian this year.

Florida is just to rich in talent and has way to many kids for UF to take. As many schools they will always not get every player, but will still have an amazing class with instate prospects. In the past it was UGA coming in, but now their program is declining and UT has come is. Again nothing special but there always seems to be a team that does well from out of state in Florida. Especially with Miami rebuilding and FSU sliding. It is not like there are only a hand full of good prospects there.

You seem to make it sound like UT is doing something that has never happened before, but it is just their time in the cycle and with them showing they are back they have replaced others that have recruited well. Also your obsession with the #1 class intrigues me. I guess for some it is something to brag about, but in the end it really comes down to what the coaches need and get to meet the future needs of the team. Any school can go after a #1 class and sign enough prospects to get it, but if it doesn't fill the needs of the team who cares. Also you mentioned in another post about relationships. Remember when you start turning players away because someone better comes in those relationships start to falter down the road with those schools. That is why you only accept players you really are sure about and hold off the others until later.
 
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I think D Robinson is a wait and see what happens type of prospect at this point. His stock has fallen and schools that he seems to be real high on no longer have the same feeling for him. This doesn't mean no one will take him but he is not the top priority on many boards as he once was.

I agree with all this...
 
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Tidewarrior I always enjoy your insights.
I have followed recruiting a little bit for a long time and I know that Spurrier clearly stated that he expected to start holding on to his in state guys.

What TN is doing looks unprecedented to me in that we are talking number 1 class as a legit possibilty at 4-4. I agree that filling the needs is most important but my obsession with our ranking is both a desire for more publicity and a joke to me because everyone said in August that I was insane for saying we would end up at #1.

Tide, I think you and I would agree that it is a blessing and a curse for Saban and Meyer to have such depth of talent at almost every position. It is something TN aspires to but for now it is an advantage to be a hot program with lots of PT available.

In terms of relationships, this staff will not embarass anyone, if a guy drops out for a reason other than grades, it will be sold as his decision and probably to stay closer to home.

Until he has an NC saban can sell a great program with unreal history and tradition that will get you to the NFL. Saban does not suffer from what kiffin can say about a guy looking at UF which is that no matter what you will not be a hero at UF compared to the guys who they idolized from two national championships.

By the way it is shocking to me as a college football fan how often bama has an awesome team with a mediocre qb. I am not that old but starting in person with freddie kitchens and including this year, I feel like with a stud qb alabama would be much favored in every game including against uf.
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