A Day in the Life of Joe Republican

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615 Vol said:
What's wrong with lawyers? You won't feel that way the first time you need one. As far as over charging for an hourly service, call an HVAC tech or plumber.
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well i haven't placed my self in any position to need a lawyer, so i'll continue to down them. well most of them. there is a small percentage of good lawyers out there.

Yes a completely agree about those professions. but you have to understand, people like plumbers, hvac repairmen are the blue collar workers. the working man that dems love. so no one should ever question their charges or work quality.
 
#28
#28
615 Vol said:
Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding.
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they would make what the job is worth. If he's currently the union floorsweeper he would make less than the more technical jobs.
 
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TennNC said:
Just a hunch: GOPers will say "higher." Dems will say "lower."

Like just about everything in life, there's a good bit of good and bad in unions IMO.
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unions clearly had their place many decades ago, but the proliferation of information today and undermined all of their usefulness.

Now, their function is simply massively expensive, destroys efficiency and ultimately destroys outfits like the airlines and auto mfrs.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
unions clearly had their place many decades ago, but the proliferation of information today and undermined all of their usefulness.

Now, their function is simply massively expensive, destroys efficiency and ultimately destroys outfits like the airlines and auto mfrs.
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at its worst, I buy that. But I can't imagine "all their usefulness" is undermined. increased access to information doesn't mean that workers don't need people out there fighting for them.
 
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615 Vol said:
Just curious.....if not one union existed in the United States what would things be like? Assuming a union employee at Nissan in Smyrna is making $20.00 an hour, what would they make as a non-union employee? I'm not asking in support for union rather looking for thoughts on this issue for further understanding.
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The issue is unions working to benefit their workers, which they have done. The negative here is that over time they have gone too far and now those same union employees are draining the companies they work for and driving the price of the goods they make up artificially. Bottom line is they were sorely needed at one time but like many things where power is involved got out of hand.
 
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TennNC said:
at its worst, I buy that. But I can't imagine "all their usefulness" is undermined. increased access to information doesn't mean that workers don't need people out there fighting for them.
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Tell me the good the unions do? What do workers need that has to be fought for?

Unions serve the same philosphy as the D party, to keep everyone on the farm.
 
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the problem i see with unions is that if you bust your tail working hard, you'll get the same raise as the guy thats always late and always slacking on the job.

my dad worked as a painter and he said he would be working and would come upon guys that would hide behind equipment and sleep. he said he saw it all the time. he said they rarely got in trouble and they never got fired. he said so much money was wasted because there was very litter accountability or the oversight was so ineffecient people got away with everthing.

with a private company, if you bust your tail and work hard, you have a much better chance of suceeding.
 
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TennNC said:
that post is a spit in the ocean compared to a good amount of drivel on here that's birthed listening to Rush.
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I get you hate Rush, not that I care but I get it. Rush has a radio show that you have the option of not listening to. Micheal Moore is propaganda at its finest.
Call out some of the crap that Moore has spewed over the years, and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say. Rush's show consists of getting under the skin of libs like you and calling out "the media" (I know you love that term). Moore makes a living off of conspiracies and promoting Socialism. You listen to what you want, I'll do the same.
 
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allvol123 said:
Tell me the good the unions do? What do workers need that has to be fought for?

Unions serve the same philosphy as the D party, to keep everyone on the farm.
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speaking of farms, migrant workers certainly appreciate the help.
 
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TennNC said:
that post is a spit in the ocean compared to a good amount of drivel on here that's birthed listening to Rush.
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You are correct...because those that disagree with you cannot possibly have their own opinions...if we disagree with you it is because we take our marching orders from Rush.

You, and those that agree with you, are obviously the only free and independent thinkers on here and I tip my hat to your superior knowledge and intellect. :hi:
 
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VolDad said:
You are correct...because those that disagree with you cannot possibly have their own opinions...if we disagree with you it is because we take our marching orders from Rush.

You, and those that agree with you, are obviously the only free and independent thinkers on here and I tip my hat to your superior knowledge and intellect. :hi:
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Careful, if you make posts like that he'll claim you have an inferiority complex.
 
#40
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VolDad said:
You are correct...because those that disagree with you cannot possibly have their own opinions...if we disagree with you it is because we take our marching orders from Rush.

You, and those that agree with you, are obviously the only free and independent thinkers on here and I tip my hat to your superior knowledge and intellect. :hi:
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volsforever's inferiority complex is apparently contagious.

where did I state that you can't disagree with me? Where did I state you can't have your own opinion? I simply reminded posters that LG's use of a Michael Moore contribution is but one of few examples compared to its equivalent on the right side. do you disagree with that?
 
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allvol123 said:
What help specifically? Migrant workers making very low wages appreciate having them garnished by unions?
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they appreciate things such as work standards, like water breaks in 130-degree tobacco fields, medical care access should they pass out in said heat, protection from pesticides, and assurance of agreed upon wages.
 
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TennNC said:
they appreciate things such as work standards, like water breaks in 130-degree tobacco fields, medical care access should they pass out in said heat, protection from pesticides, and assurance of agreed upon wages.
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I'm sure anything they are getting is already required by federal law. But yeah, keep on paying the master(union rep) for those so called services you are getting.
 
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TennNC said:
volsforever's inferiority complex is apparently contagious.

where did I state that you can't disagree with me? Where did I state you can't have your own opinion? I simply reminded posters that LG's use of a Michael Moore contribution is but one of few examples compared to its equivalent on the right side. do you disagree with that?
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Perhaps a look in the mirror is in order. Pointing out the tone of your posts has nothing to do with feeling inferior... in fact, it brings on a feeling quite the opposite.
 
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allvol123 said:
I'm sure anything they are getting is already required by federal law. But yeah, keep on paying the master(union rep) for those so called services you are getting.
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and who do you think represents them?

just b/c it's in the law means that everyone obeys?
 
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volsforever27 said:
You guys know he's sitting back laughing at all the responses, like typical trolls do, right?
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I may be viewed by some as a troll, but I am confident I am not typical.


The more interesting thing to me is that I would be called a troll for posting a pro-liberal piece in the politics forum at all. I thought it was just "politics," not some wing or the other. Is this by definition a conservative forum only? Are all things that are pro-liberal "trolling"?

Says a lot that folks assume that anything liberal is so out of the ordinary here that its trolling.
 
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TennNC said:
and who do you think represents them?

just b/c it's in the law means that everyone obeys?
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Yea, there is a shortage of lawyers in this country that love to get on big companies. What power do you think the actual union rep has? If something is being done that is unlawful, exactly what power do you think the union rep has? None. He is the mediator and gets it to an attorney if it is a real violation. Unions are bloodsuckers, the lowest of the low.
 
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volsforever27 said:
Perhaps a look in the mirror is in order. Pointing out the tone of your posts has nothing to do with feeling inferior... in fact, it brings on a feeling quite the opposite.
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as soon as you no longer try to legitimize attacks such as those in Corsi's incredibly false book, and as soon as you stop trying to reduce any left-leaning posts to "trolling," then I'll stop using similar language in describing posts of a similar ilk on the right-leaning side.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I may be viewed by some as a troll, but I am confident I am not typical.


The more interesting thing to me is that I would be called a troll for posting a pro-liberal piece in the politics forum at all. I thought it was just "politics," not some wing or the other. Is this by definition a conservative forum only? Are all things that are pro-liberal "trolling"?

Says a lot that folks assume that anything liberal is so out of the ordinary here that its trolling.
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No, what says a lot is the fact you post thngs like that here and on the main forum just to get a rise. It's ok if I don't agree with your political views (even though you're undecided yet posting from Moore's site), but not just to stir the pot... and anyone with the ability to read and has read more than one of your posts know you like to do that. I'm sure that troll label is unfair, though. Keep acting offended.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I may be viewed by some as a troll, but I am confident I am not typical.


The more interesting thing to me is that I would be called a troll for posting a pro-liberal piece in the politics forum at all. I thought it was just "politics," not some wing or the other. Is this by definition a conservative forum only? Are all things that are pro-liberal "trolling"?

Says a lot that folks assume that anything liberal is so out of the ordinary here that its trolling.
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laying it on a bit thick eh? All that was missing was the FW:FW:FW: in the title

this is not just a pro-lib piece but a made up, distorted story that sounds like it was written by someone living in his mom's basement and forwarded . There are a few lib posters on here whose stories (you know, with links and stuff) are not called trolling.
 
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TennNC said:
as soon as you no longer try to legitimize attacks such as those in Corsi's incredibly false book, and as soon as you stop trying to reduce any left-leaning posts to "trolling," then I'll stop using similar language in describing posts of a similar ilk on the right-leaning side.
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Give me a break, I posted it for discussion... I haven't even read the book, and if you'll actually read my post I said I would reserve judgement. I said he wasn't conservative IMO, and I knew it would be a good source of discussion. As far as trolling when that's what LG does, I'll label it so, and not because it's from Moore's site (I don't need to say anything in that regard, it speaks for itself). The righteous indignation is getting a little old.
 
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