A proposal for this state(weather related)

#26
#26
And, maybe I am overreacting a bit. Maybe I am. But it seems like that not many people here take the warnings seriously. Part of that issue is that the NWS issues them too liberally, but that's more of a weather thing and less of a politics thing.
 
#27
#27
storm shelters and fire sprinklers? Is there anything you don't think the gov't should provide? I am so tired of being forced to pay for other people's crap. The cost on those items would increase the housing cost by a bundle. Sure, my company would benefit and that's good but there is no need
 
#28
#28
utvolpj said:
storm shelters and fire sprinklers? Is there anything you don't think the gov't should provide? I am tired of paying for other people's crap
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How about stop bailing out auto companies that prove that they can't pay us back.
 
#29
#29
nickknx865 said:
I understand what you're saying. While it is a low risk, it's gotta be something we at least look into.

Now, the tornado sirens, well, those should be in every single county in this state.
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Nope, its GOTTA be a matter of choice, not requirement. Folks get shot require a bullet proof vest for everyone, folks die in car crashes make the govt mandate consumer auto must now meet nascar requirements, I saw a fight in public once I think everyone should be required to wear head gear. Think about it.....keep the govt out of it. We all take risk its just part of it. You want a storm shelter buy one... me I will risk it
 
#30
#30
utvolpj said:
storm shelters and fire sprinklers? Is there anything you don't think the gov't should provide? I am so tired of being forced to pay for other people's crap. The cost on those items would increase the housing cost by a bundle. Sure, my company would benefit and that's good but there is no need
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PJ, that was mine. I think we're on the same page.
 
#32
#32
Sjernigan88 said:
Hold up.... The builder and the clients do not need extra cost built into the price of a home. They already have enough of this govt forced fees to pay without forcing them to install storm shelters. People die in house fires often so should we REQUIRE sprinklers too? I agree our area is usually hit with bad weather a few times per year and yes, I am sorry to say some lives are lost but that is a risk you take and a low one at that. If you do not want that risk move to NY or some other area. All I am saying is that it is a rediculous request that the govt require folks to spend money, falsely inflating the cost of homes, because of a low risk of death. I would like to see an average of Tornado deaths per year in our state.

I will agree the tornado sirens are a great idea and should be in every community.

But I am just not for the govt telling us which risk to take and REQUIRING anything, less govt is good govt. Just my .02
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Many state and local governments already require new residential construction to include sprinklers.
 
#34
#34
I know thats what I am getting at. They shouldn't. It should all be a matter of personal choice. One area near me is considering requiring sprinklers... I just don't get why the mentality of more govt requirements will make a safer life. How many folks do you know that got caught in a fire? I think it is a risk/reward type thing where the public will pay for sprinklers or storm shelters if they want it and the reward is great enough (lower insurance, safety of family< ect..). Until then tell the govt to get their dirty hands off my building site. Check my septic, electrical.... and go away.
 
#35
#35
utvolpj said:
in homes or just multi-family?
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single family residential. Some counties in TN require it others do not. I do know that Cheatham County is now requiring them or will be at some point in the very near future.
 
#36
#36
Sjernigan88 said:
I know thats what I am getting at. They shouldn't. It should all be a matter of personal choice. One area near me is considering requiring sprinklers... I just don't get why the mentality of more govt requirements will make a safer life. How many folks do you know that got caught in a fire? I think it is a risk/reward type thing where the public will pay for sprinklers or storm shelters if they want it and the reward is great enough (lower insurance, safety of family< ect..). Until then tell the govt to get their dirty hands off my building site. Check my septic, electrical.... and go away.
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i tend to agree
 
#37
#37
KB5252 said:
single family residential. Some counties in TN require it others do not. I do know that Cheatham County is now requiring them or will be at some point in the very near future.
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ridiculous IMO. Going to be fun to see the insurance claims that come with leaks because those are much more likely to happen than a fire. Not to mention the number of "qualified installers" that are sure to pop up just like they did in the housing boom (and now cost people millions on shoddy construction).
 
#38
#38
utvolpj said:
ridiculous IMO. Going to be fun to see the insurance claims that come with leaks because those are much more likely to happen than a fire. Not to mention the number of "qualified installers" that are sure to pop up just like they did in the housing boom (and now cost people millions on shoddy construction).
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Man, I knew I liked you for some reason.

LESS GOVT= BETTER GOVT
 
#39
#39
utvolpj said:
ridiculous IMO. Going to be fun to see the insurance claims that come with leaks because those are much more likely to happen than a fire. Not to mention the number of "qualified installers" that are sure to pop up just like they did in the housing boom (and now cost people millions on shoddy construction).
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yep!
 
#42
#42
It will be a matter of time before we are required to suit up in full football pads/helmut because of that odd chance a tree will drop on our head. Sirens are a crazy expendature unfortunately because they just are rendered ineffective in our landscape in most of Tennessee. Oklahoma, Indiana, ect are flat. Thus sound can carry for miles. When you add hills into the mix, their area of effectiveness is brought to nil.

The best bet is to get a weather radio, and be diligent about the forcasts. My family has been personally affected by all three of the last big ones (Murfressboro, Super Tuesday, and the 2006 one), and we survived all three because we knew what was ahead and were prepared. We had the weather on all three times, had plans in place where family members were at places of safety, and we were ready to hit the shelter when something came our way.

Lives are valuable, this is true, but that value is mainly YOUR responsibility. The cost to absolutely make sure everyone has a personal beeper go off if a gps tracker tracks rotation going in coordinates that are mere yards from your current location tends to get costly. I'm sorry, Mr OP, but this is exactly what politcians do and why we are in the hole so bad. We can't just run out and hold everyone's hand on every single detail and trial life throws at us.
 
#44
#44
nickknx865 said:
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The chart shows where the highest rate of tornado fatalities are/occur.
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Interesting :eek:k:

Memphis is the biggest city in the area in red.
 
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#45
#45
I'd like to thank most who replied here for helping me prove my point to little Nicky.

There's simply no way to legislate away the risks associated with daily life.

also, that nice graphic is meaningless without some additional context and it was provided without a link to it's source.
 
#46
#46
Better yet we should require every house to be Federalized and inspected bi weekly for safety issues.

Dry wall will be replaced by

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Also, wood frames will be replaced by reinforced concrete with rebar...

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Also included in the community reinvestment act will be government sponsored panic rooms that has wall to wall coverage of CSPAN.

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Remember the US government's new slogan

Ensuring equality and safety for over 200 years!
 
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