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indyvol15

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Does anyone remember last year? Or did a lot of folks on here just wake up that went to sleep in 2004? I for one am just glad that things are starting to move in a positive direction, prior to tonight we had lost 2 games by a total of 5 points and a lot fans were ready to write the season off as a failure. I would love to have seen a bcs bid for us, but it's not going to happen. Hell I'm glad to go to a bowl this year after quiet and boring Bowl season for me last year. We post on here and bitch and complain and talk about firing this coach and that coach,what do you all think goes through a possible recruits mind if and when they read these boards? Let's support the program instead of throwing it under the bus. I believe we are headed in the right direction.
 
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Does anyone remember last year? Or did a lot of folks on here just wake up that went to sleep in 2004? I for one am just glad that things are starting to move in a positive direction, prior to tonight we had lost 2 games by a total of 5 points and a lot fans were ready to write the season off as a failure. I would love to have seen a bcs bid for us, but it's not going to happen. Hell I'm glad to go to a bowl this year after quiet and boring Bowl season for me last year. We post on here and bitch and complain and talk about firing this coach and that coach,what do you all think goes through a possible recruits mind if and when they read these boards? Let's support the program instead of throwing it under the bus. I believe we are headed in the right direction.

You are correct. Getting blown out by Arkansas isn't going to deter recruits. Posting on an instant message board is. Also, Fulmer going 9-3 is really good, because last year he went 5-6. We might even win the BCS Most Improved Championship.
 
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You are correct. Getting blown out by Arkansas isn't going to deter recruits. Posting on an instant message board is. Also, Fulmer going 9-3 is really good, because last year he went 5-6. We might even win the BCS Most Improved Championship.

no... i think arkansas blows us out in that game too
 
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It doesn't matter...we've lost 3 games and Fulmer should be fired ASAP!:crazy:
So I guess Justin Harell, Inky Johnson and Eric Ainge's injuries are Fulmers fault. Who do we go get???? And please do tell me where we stand on winning % since 1990?
 
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Lots of Miami fans said the same thing about Larry Coker. They decided to keep him instead. Seems like it's working out great for them.
We Tennessee Fans are the most fickle I have seen. I suppose if Bruce Pearls team loses 10 games this year, we will all say last year was a fluke and be ready to toss him off the sphere?
 
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We Tennessee Fans are the most fickle I have seen. I suppose if Bruce Pearls team loses 10 games this year, we will all say last year was a fluke and be ready to toss him off the sphere?

If Bruce Pearl had come in to a program that had a strong tradition of success and then produced 7 mediocre seasons and 1 awful season, then yes. Also add that the one season in which he had a chance to do something special, he folded. I'm referring to 2001.
 
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If Bruce Pearl had come in to a program that had a strong tradition of success and then produced 7 mediocre seasons and 1 awful season, then yes. Also add that the one season in which he had a chance to do something special, he folded. I'm referring to 2001.
Who got this program back on the upside starting in 1990? Who was the coach that got us a NC for the 1st time in 47 years? So I guess I'm still missing your point.
 
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Fulmer should've been canned last year and everyone with a lick of football sense knows it. He allowed the program to rot from the inside out. UT now needs a dynamic head coach who can inspire his players and assistants as well as the fans and recruiting prospects. The severe lack of depth clearly illustrates poor player development. That cannot be tolerated any longer. The idea that UT can recruit the best and let 'em use their physical ability to out play better coached competition is not going to work any more.
 
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Lots of Miami fans said the same thing about Larry Coker. They decided to keep him instead. Seems like it's working out great for them.

Coker has done nothing. A retarded kid could have taken the 2001 and 2002 teams and won national championships with them.

Fulmer has at least had good years.

Unless We lose 2 more games this year, I think Fulmer should get another year.
 
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Coker has done nothing. A retarded kid could have taken the 2001 and 2002 teams and won national championships with them.

Fulmer has at least had good years.

Unless We lose 2 more games this year, I think Fulmer should get another year.

I hope he resigns after the kentucky game.
I hope to GOD Cut is not promoted to HC nor Chavis.
 
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Who got this program back on the upside starting in 1990? Who was the coach that got us a NC for the 1st time in 47 years? So I guess I'm still missing your point.

I love your Avatar. Brings back good memories. I've had two dogs to die of old age since then!!!!
 
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Hey indyvol I posted this like 4 days ago in responce to some guy siimilar to you was telling us all how to act and ratiionalizing everything and clapping with his head set under his arm....any way here it is... you really need to read it
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There isn't anyone on here thats 100% pessimistic.

Everyone here (besides opposing fans) has the same goal. To see their Vols win.

People act differently to that. Like after the LSU loss some say "Hey they were a better team, it's not that bad we lost" while others say "The chance was there to win, and here's where we lost it"

You have your fans that are just happy if Tennessee shows up on Saturday and play for their entertainment then you have the ones that want Tennessee to rip the head off of anyone the even steps on the field with them, even if they are a better team.

Then you have your ones that will rationalize a loss, then the ones that will maybe jump at conclusions and blame everyone on the team even the water boys for the loss.

If everyone in this place came in here after LSU and we had a big "Moral Victory" lovefest just because we went 5-6 last year. Then I wouldn't come here.

We lost because there are things in either our talent, coaching, scheme, etc.... that wasn't as good as the other teams. Just because people come here and point them out doesn't make them pessimistic, it makes them fans.

Me personally I'll come here and point things out, I will do my fair share of moaning about things, but It doesn't mean I'm pessimistic or see the reality that we are a good team and should be very proud this year. I don't think anyone here is ashamed of Tennessee this year. Is there some that think we should be 9-0, Hell Yes and I'm one of them, am I mad we're not, No. Will I point of why we're not 9-0, you better friggin believe it.

Everyone's heard the saying that if everyone was the same this world would be boring, same thing applies here. If people quit "whinning" or questioning things about a team that were so dedicated to that we come here and talk to people we don't even know about then it would be boring. If there's one thing I hate it's a big lovefest in a thread where there are 50 people agreeing on a subject.
 
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I for one am not one who thinks we should be undefeated. You just can't reverse a half decade (at least) of decline in one season. I am an engineer. I expect to do fault and failure anlysis. It does not mean I am fickle, fair weather, or a complainer. It means I expect performance for $2 million a year--as would any business partcipant. And make no mistake--college athletics are a business in large part.

It also means that I get tired of hearing the same old excuses, blame-shifting and recrimination--especially from those on here who claim that to be an old timer means you should appreciate a trip to any bowl game.

Fulmer himself said those expectations were inadequate for a TN fan--so by your favorite coach, YOU are not the true TN fan, not me. He said he expects to COMPETE (not WIN) for championships every year.

It has been quite some time since TN was seriously competitive for an SEC championship--just making the title game to lay an egg does not count.....look up the word compete....it does not mean "scheduled."

I have been and will be a TN fan until I die. I was there for the many peach bowl trips where we were all grateful to just have a winning season and a bowl win.

Those days are over. Fulmer himself established that personal standard. He has consistently not met that standard.

It is time for accountability to set it.
 
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In my opinion, I have seen a respectable program go south with player development and team discipline. We fans have high expectations and have every right to. It is disappointing to see highly rated players come in and for some reason settle for mediocrity. As a former coach, it was my responsibilty to see to it that players were developed and team discipline was maintained. In last night's game with Arkansas, I saw a team act and played like they were already defeated from the first series. There are two schools of thought about a defeatist attitude: one is the players' fault and second is the coach's fault. In my opinion, players will follow the lead of the coach if the coach has any positive impact on his players. Those players who do not follow the guidelines of the coach should be benched or removed from the program. The coach has the ultimate decision on how a program should be run. I have tried my best to justify our program and see its decline with patience and optimism since our championship in 1998, but I have been seeing and continue to see the same problems occuring every year since 1998.
 
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I have a question.....if you did fire Phil....which I dont agree with....who would you hire? What coach would you hire to save you. I dont get it....you have a good coach......more opinions please. WHO?
 
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Hey secfanclub....if you coached what kind of record did you have? Im sure every defeat you took wasnt your fault.....you want problems? now FSU has problems.
 
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Wow before your game with SC there were a lot of vol fans still in denial.....I believe you now see what Spurrier can do....SC will be a power in the SEC before coach Spurrier is done....Simply...one of the best ever to coach the game of college football. ENVY THAT.
 
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Does anyone remember last year? Or did a lot of folks on here just wake up that went to sleep in 2004? I for one am just glad that things are starting to move in a positive direction, prior to tonight we had lost 2 games by a total of 5 points and a lot fans were ready to write the season off as a failure. I would love to have seen a bcs bid for us, but it's not going to happen. Hell I'm glad to go to a bowl this year after quiet and boring Bowl season for me last year. We post on here and bitch and complain and talk about firing this coach and that coach,what do you all think goes through a possible recruits mind if and when they read these boards? Let's support the program instead of throwing it under the bus. I believe we are headed in the right direction.

Preach it brother. :salute: A-MEN & A-MEN
 
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Wow before your game with SC there were a lot of vol fans still in denial.....I believe you now see what Spurrier can do....SC will be a power in the SEC before coach Spurrier is done....Simply...one of the best ever to coach the game of college football. ENVY THAT.

My friend, my post record reflects nothing but consistent praise for the Ole Ball Coach. There are some on this board who continued to be blinded by hatred.
 

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