Abortion Rights

#76
#76
alaVOL said:
Abortion rights?

Convenient murder rights is a more truthful statement.

Debate it, say it's legal and whatever spin you want to put on it.
In the end it stops a heart beat.

It's a totally murderous barbaric practice done 99% of the time for pure birth control.
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In full agreement.

I’m not going to debate lunacy, but I’ll just say this:

A woman has a choice - it starts and stops when she decides to spread her legs.
 
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#79
I will take it a step further if you vote for pro-choice you have the blood of those aborted babies on your hands when those Devils get elected.
You are just as guilty for promoting such a heinous act.
 
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What about the baby's choice in the matter? They say that it's a woman's body so it's her choice, but it seems to me all the harm and the murderous act is happening to the innocent baby's body!
 
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BigO95 said:
What about the baby's choice in the matter? They say that it's a woman's body so it's her choice, but it seems to me all the harm and the murderous act is happening to the innocent baby's body!
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It all hinges on whether or not it's a "life", and there is no definitive proof either way.
 
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BigO95 said:
It is a shame that society is so wicked and ungodly and devoid of enough decency that little innocent babies aren't even safe in their mothers womb! Their own mothers having a wicked devil that calls themselves a doctor murder their precious innocent little baby!

It's amazing how gracious God is not to destroy mankind.
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So grace is the only thing between God murdering all of us because some practice abortion? Your idea of God sounds worse than the average person. There are about 500 reasons I don't think God would murder us.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It all hinges on whether or not it's a "life", and there is no definitive proof either way.
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El-oh-el.

No definitive proof? Ok, I’ll play. Would a beating heart constitute as being a life? Quit with the semantics and call it what it is - murder!

What would happen to you if your heart stopped beating? Oh, I don’t know, maybe you’re bionic and it wouldn’t affect you.....
 
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n_huffhines said:
It all hinges on whether or not it's a "life", and there is no definitive proof either way.
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A premature baby, in the womb it's called a fetus but outside the womb it's a baby. Seems like to me the only difference is location.

And by the way, God's grace is the only thing keeping you out of hell! You keep messing around and his grace will run out for you.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It all hinges on whether or not it's a "life", and there is no definitive proof either way.
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If your wife, if you have one, were carrying your child and some idiot stabbed her and thus killed the "fetus", and your wife lives, should the charge be assault with a deadly weapon or murder?
 
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Squints said:
El-oh-el.

No definitive proof? Ok, I’ll play. Would a beating heart constitute as being a life? Quit with the semantics and call it what it is - murder!

What would happen to you if your heart stopped beating? Oh, I don’t know, maybe you’re bionic and it wouldn’t affect you.....
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So if it's life, why is it OK to abort to potentially save the Mother's life? Or in cases of rape? If my wife and my child are falling off a cliff and I can only snag one, I save my child. Why is it different in the womb?
 
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BigO95 said:
A premature baby, in the womb it's called a fetus but outside the womb it's a baby. Seems like to me the only difference is location.

And by the way, God's grace is the only thing keeping you out of hell! You keep messing around and his grace will run out for you.
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God is better than that. You can believe what you want to believe, but the God I believe in only cares how we treat one another.
 
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also if someone is wanting to carry to term and the "fetus" dies, we still use the term "die/death" which inherently implies it was alive at some point to now be dead.
 
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#95
Squints said:
El-oh-el.

No definitive proof? Ok, I’ll play. Would a beating heart constitute as being a life? Quit with the semantics and call it what it is - murder!

What would happen to you if your heart stopped beating? Oh, I don’t know, maybe you’re bionic and it wouldn’t affect you.....
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At what point is the pregnancy a life? You just stated a beating heart which certainly sounds reasonable.

At the moment of conception it is just a bunch of cells. At 9 months it is obviously a baby. The extremes muddy the debate. Life beginning at conception and life beginning at birth are both wrong IMO.

The answer is in between, and that is where it get tough to say "when" it is a human life.
 
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LouderVol said:
also if someone is wanting to carry to term and the "fetus" dies, we still use the term "die/death" which inherently implies it was alive at some point to now be dead.
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Who uses that term? I've literally never heard anybody say "the baby died" unless they are explaining it to a child. The term is "stillborn".
 
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n_huffhines said:
So if it's life, why is it OK to abort to potentially save the Mother's life? Or in cases of rape? If my wife and my child are falling off a cliff and I can only snag one, I save my child. Why is it different in the womb?
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Why don't you just abort the rapist instead?
As for the other try to save both and trust God with the rest.
 
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n_huffhines said:
So if it's life, why is it OK to abort to potentially save the Mother's life? Or in cases of rape? If my wife and my child are falling off a cliff and I can only snag one, I save my child. Why is it different in the womb?
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Did you push them off the cliff? If you didn't that scenario is completely unrelated. There is no medical (at least that I've heard) necessity to abort a late term pregnancy.
 
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