abortion.

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666 said:
The first word in my post is "most."
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What does that mean? Religious people are nut balls?

If any person of faith can truly support anyone who has the power over abortion by money to groups who support or perform them then they have faith in something other than God. Some things are black and white, and this is one of them.

Therefore I am a nut ball and certainly will never vote or support anyone who condones abortion.
 
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The worst part about all of this is the fact few people care. News talking heads have spent 6 months talking about Casey Anthony who probably killed her 2-year-old daughter. And they'll fill countless days until she's convicted or released.

I haven't seen one peep on the national televised news about this. WHY? To scared to face the truth, that's why. Afraid it will damage abortion laws? Yes they are and I would hope that people would take a new unbiased look at what REALLY happens.
 
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A similar case:

Obama's Startling Reaction to Funeral Service for Baby Killed After Failed Abortion Renews Calls for Prosecution

In the wake of her long-anticipated funeral, inflammatory comments by President-elect Barack Obama have renewed calls for charges to be filed in the death of Baby Shanice Denise Osbourne, who was born alive after a failed abortion at a Hialeah, Florida, abortion clinic, shoved into a plastic bag, and tossed on the roof of the abortion building to die in July, 2006.

In startling response to the media, an Obama spokesperson accused Rev. Dozier of engaging in "the most disgusting and manipulative kind of hate politics around."

"In trying to defend the indefensible, all Obama and his henchmen can do is demonize those who are telling the truth about his voting record," said Operation Rescue President Troy Newman. "No smear tactic can erase the fact that Obama clearly voted to deny protections for babies like Shanice. In spite of opposition from Obama, there are clear laws protecting live babies from being murdered in cold blood."


I thought legalization was supposed to prevent back ally abortions!!!

Anyway Obama retained Rahm Emanuel as chief of white house staff and Emanuel voted 0% pro life.


alaVOL said:
Good info GS

TRUTH....what a fresh concept!

Speaking of concept, how about we have the local vet's sucking out pup's and kitty's instead of worrying about spay or neuter options. That would send PETA off into orbit......exactly what we should be doing!
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The Humane Society is the big dog, peta just does outrageous things to get headlines, H$U$ and it's hundred million a year to influence legislation, help determine the outcome of elections and msm's slobber fest of good press for them is a big problem for America and of course the AR theorists do believe in killing handicapped children if parents so desire.

As we saw in Germany, it is then only one short step to mass genocide of those who don't measure up to their idea of who is worthy of life.

The there is the cry of the international socialists that;
"We will create a Humane new world."

I have an idea, maybe we would be more likely to have a more humane world if they would shut up and mind their own business.
 
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#31
666 said:
I agree that this abortion was completely wrong. You'll never ban all abortions. You'll just get a lot of botched home abortions if you try.
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And?

I am sure that you have heard the following saying:
Shoot for the moon and if you miss you will still be among the stars
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You wouldn't want the government condoning homicide for the sole reason that preventing all murders is impossible.
 
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#32
It was all built on lies, and our country fell for it...

From The Marketing of Evil (pp. 189-191) by David Kupelian:
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Since Roe v. Wade in 1973, more than 40 million abortions have been performed.

Bernard Nathanson, MD, co-founder of NARAL, has performed or supervised 75,000 abortions. He explains the beginnings of NARAL....

The original abortion-rights slogans from the early '70s---they remain virtual articles of faith and rallying cries of the "pro-choice" movement to this day---were "Freedom of choice" and "Women must have control over their own bodies."

"I remember laughing when we made those slogans up....We were looking for some sexy, catchy slogans to capture public opinion. They were very cynical slogan then, just as all of these slogans today are very, very cynical.

"We persuaded the media that the cause of permissive abortion was a liberal, enlightened, sophisticated one....Knowing that if a true poll were taken, we would be soundly defeated, we simply fabricated the results of fictional polls. We announced to the media that we had taken polls and that 60 percent of Americans were in favor of permissive abortion. This is the tactic of the self-fulfilling lie. Few people care to be in the minority. We aroused enough sympathy to sell our program of permissive abortion by fabricating the number of illegal abortions done annually in the U.S. The actual figure was approaching 100,000, but the figure we gave to the media repeatedly was 1 million.

"Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public. The number of women dying from illegal abortions was around 200-250 annually. The figure we constantly fed to the media was 10,000. These false figures took root in the consciousness of Americans, convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law.

"Another myth we fed to the public through the media was that legalizing abortion would only mean that the abortions taking place illegally would then be done legally. In fact, of course, abortion is now being used as a primary method of birth control in the U.S. and the annual number of abortions has increased by 1,500 percent since legalization."

In New York the law outlawing abortion had been on the books for 140 years. "In two years of work, we at NARAL struck that law down."
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#33
It was all built on lies, and our country fell for it...
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The country is the people. If enough people voted against those who let this happen it would not have stood. Politicians should not have been elected if they supported this law. They get off because of the Supreme Court ruling? New laws could be passed to override the court and it should have been. How enlightened we are that will allow this to continue and promote it around the world. The blood of the innocents is on all of us.
 
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alaVOL said:
The country is the people. If enough people voted against those who let this happen it would not have stood. Politicians should not have been elected if they supported this law. They get off because of the Supreme Court ruling? New laws could be passed to override the court and it should have been. How enlightened we are that will allow this to continue and promote it around the world. The blood of the innocents is on all of us.
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This is the type of commentary that is sure to rally tons of support to your side.
 
#35
#35
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
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So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke's observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right.
 
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#36
I appreciate the philosophy of the universal battle between good and evil, heck I even enjoy Tolkien and Lewis, but this just doesn't seem to be about good vs. evil.
 
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#37
Repeating the big lie often enough convinces the public.
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Just a general observation, with no particular point to this thread. It's funny how people only use this line when arguing against the other side.
 
#38
#38
how come it is illegal to assist in the suicide of someone that clearly has a voice and has stated that they want to die, yet it is perfectly legal to kill someone that has no say in the matter?
 
#39
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kev20 said:
how come it is illegal to assist in the suicide of someone that clearly has a voice and has stated that they want to die, yet it is perfectly legal to kill someone that has no say in the matter?
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Excellent question.

I wonder......maybe we can get Andy Rooney to check into that.
 
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Daddy Gee said:
It was all built on lies, and our country fell for it...

From The Marketing of Evil (pp. 189-191) by David Kupelian:
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These false figures took root in the consciousness of Americans, convincing many that we needed to crack the abortion law.
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Just like the leader of an environmental group advising his field operatives on how to handle press interviews.

"If they ask you a question and you don't know the data, make it up on the spot."
 
#41
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President Barack Obama on Friday (back in January) quietly ended the Bush administration's ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide information on the option.

A White House spokesman, Bill Burton, said Obama signed an executive order on the ban, without coverage by the media, late Friday afternoon. That was in contrast to the midday signings with fanfare of executive orders on other subjects earlier in the week.

Obama's action came one day after the 36th anniversary of the Supreme Court's landmark Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion.

Both Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who will oversee foreign aid, had promised to do away with the rule during the presidential campaign. Clinton visited the U.S. Agency for International Development on Friday but made no mention of the step.

In a move related to the lifting of the abortion rule, Obama also is expected to restore funding to the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA), probably in the next budget. Both he and Clinton had pledged to reverse a Bush administration determination that assistance to the organization violated U.S. law.
 
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alaVOL said:
With such a horrible crime yet no televised coverage? This story about turkeys is getting more press.

FOXNews.com - Turkey Farm Workers Indicted on Abuse Charges - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

Let's us know where the news priority lies. Unbelievable to me.
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Stomping turkey heads??

Humane workers who hate the noble gamecock with an insane passion have stomped roosters to death with their boot heels and buried them still flopping in a trench dug by a back hoe. Once back in the '80s they put the roosters in their carrying cases, stacked them, poured gasoline on the cases and set them ablaze, burning the birds alive.

No wonder they support abortions and abortionists, it fits their warped sense of justice.
 
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