ACC inviting Stanford, Cal and SMU - They Will Win the National Championship

[AurantiacoFan]

in academics.

 

[bamawriter]

This ought to put to bed any argument against players getting paid. Doing this to college athlete is not treating them like a student, it's treating them like an employee or a commodity.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

This ought to put to bed any argument against players getting paid. Doing this to college athlete is not treating them like a student, it's treating them like an employee or a commodity.

Nobody is forcing them. The ones I feel bad for are the ones that are actually trying to get an education.

 

[bamawriter]

Nobody is forcing them. The ones I feel bad for are the ones that are actually trying to get an education.

That's what I'm saying. Especially at a place like Stanford with the huge number of Olympic sports they sponsor, there are a lot of kids using athletics to get a good education. This decision is crapping all over them.

 

[nickp91]

SMU want to bring back baseball it's this ACC very good baseball conference

 

[zjcvols]

This ought to put to bed any argument against players getting paid. Doing this to college athlete is not treating them like a student, it's treating them like an employee or a commodity.

I cannot believe the five conference commissioners have not gotten together and formed a 64 or 70 team “Premier League” for football only. It just completely blows my mind that this is the direction we’ve taken.

 

[LouderVol]

Its going to be really rough on their ADs. Increased travel, and decreased revenue for 10 years.

that ACC media contract is becoming more and more of a noose. It may be the only thing keeping the big guys in at the moment, but I feel like once its loosened schools are going to be fleeing pretty hard.

 

[TrueOrange]

Its going to be really rough on their ADs. Increased travel, and decreased revenue for 10 years.

that ACC media contract is becoming more and more of a noose. It may be the only thing keeping the big guys in at the moment, but I feel like once its loosened schools are going to be fleeing pretty hard.

It’s the very binding grant of rights doing that, not the media contract, but yes

 

[barney]

sad that these university presidents are too busy chasing $$$ to concern themselves with common sense or the wellbeing of the athletes.

 

[volbound1700]

sad that these university presidents are too busy chasing $$$ to concern themselves with common sense or the wellbeing of the athletes.

I think the issue is that teams feel like they have to be in a Power 5 (now 4) league to be relevant but that isn't always the case. Ask Boise State.

Also Cal, Stanford, and SMU are not at the level nor will they be at the level of Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc. Very few programs are actually capable of being at that level and winning the national title. These programs are starting to pull away from the other programs.

Basically, college football is cutting its dead weight. Now this will be a concern for the power programs as well though because they won't have the Oregon State or Iowa States of the world to beat up. How long until the SEC decides that Miss State, Vandy, etc. don't have any value?

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

The AAC announced an official decision on adding Oregon State and Washington State.
The conference will NOT add either.
That means the two programs have one option left, but it's more complicated than it looks on the surface.

 

[GreveHaller]

Can the Atlantic Coast Conference be sued for false advertising if two schools touch the Pacific Coast?

 

[Redleg68]

Its going to be really rough on their ADs. Increased travel, and decreased revenue for 10 years.

that ACC media contract is becoming more and more of a noose. It may be the only thing keeping the big guys in at the moment, but I feel like once its loosened schools are going to be fleeing pretty hard.

This may be the final trigger for the SEC to be adding FSU, Clemson and two or four schools from N. Carolina and Va. Would be a great conference at all levels and wrapped up very neatly geographically.

 

[Velo Vol]

Previously NC State voted no. It flipped.

 

[EasternVol]

I think the issue is that teams feel like they have to be in a Power 5 (now 4) league to be relevant but that isn't always the case. Ask Boise State.

Also Cal, Stanford, and SMU are not at the level nor will they be at the level of Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, etc. Very few programs are actually capable of being at that level and winning the national title. These programs are starting to pull away from the other programs.

Basically, college football is cutting its dead weight. Now this will be a concern for the power programs as well though because they won't have the Oregon State or Iowa States of the world to beat up. How long until the SEC decides that Miss State, Vandy, etc. don't have any value?

Regarding your second paragraph, there's much more to college athletics than football. Stanford is top tier in a lot of sports.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I am sorry, but putting West Coast Stanford in the ATLANTIC Coast Conference is just too stupid (on so many levels) to contemplate. It was bad enough Putting Missouri in the SEC; but at least that was within HALF a continent. A conference should at least have SOME fleeting basis in geography

 

[gordonr24]

Previously NC State voted no. It flipped.

It’s gonna happen. It’s a matter of when.

FSU and Clemson to SEC
UNC probably to Big 10

 

[spyfish007]

It’s gonna happen. It’s a matter of when.

FSU and Clemson to SEC
UNC probably to Big 10

I think this will get the top 4 out of acc now. It is going to get real loud from FSU now.

 

[OldandStillaVol]

NC State’s vote flip allowing the expansion probably severs the tie with UNC in future realignment. I’m guessing State is working the back channels for an SEC invite while UNC doing the same with the Big 10.

 

[ENGRVOL]

Can’t see where this increases tv revenue that much for the acc and now you are splitting the tv revenue amount 3 more teams. FSU and Clemson were headed eventually anyway to the sec but this may speed up the process.

 

[GVF]

ACC or not, no one is going to start tuning in to a CAL, Stanford, and certainly not SMU game now just cause they got new digs. They will be milking the jug without adding any cream. And SMU agreed to do it for 7 years without a single dime of TV revenue. I'd be pissed having to fly from Miami to Berkely for a chess match.

 

[Pennheel]

This is another horrible decision in the neverending story that is conference realignment. What do Cal, Stanford and SMU bring to the table? I agree with what was mentioned earlier. They might as well make a super conference centered around football.

This just comes off as short term thinking.

 

[KB5252]

The details of this deal are insane. Those three are desperate to join somewhere.

I still think a few of the better ACC teams jump ship, and I also expect the two big boys SEC and Big whatever, to shed some teams that don't bring as much to the table. Not overnight, but it's coming.

 

[dobre_shunka]

Can’t see where this increases tv revenue that much for the acc and now you are splitting the tv revenue amount 3 more teams. FSU and Clemson were headed eventually anyway to the sec but this may speed up the process.

The three new schools are not getting equal shares of the conference revenue. Cal and Stanford get 30% and SMU gets 0% of TV/broadcasting revnue. The ACC knew they were desperate and took advantage.

"Stanford and Cal would come in earning a reduced portion of the ACC’s annual average total distribution of roughly $35-40 million—a 30% share, according to sources, which would equate to about $8 million per school. That percentage would escalate over multiple years. SMU, according to sources, would forego its share of the media revenue altogether for multiple years and essentially come into the league earning only from non-media rights distributions such as bowl payouts, College Football Playoff distributions and NCAA tournament units. The money all three new entrants would be forfeiting would then go into a pool to be distributed as part of a so-called “success initiative” that will provide financial reward to ACC schools based on their teams’ performance in postseason play in revenue sports."

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

I cannot believe the five conference commissioners have not gotten together and formed a 64 or 70 team “Premier League” for football only. It just completely blows my mind that this is the direction we’ve taken.

There are only going to be 4 Power Conference commissioners after this.

The PAC 2 will have to run to the Mountain West to survive.