ACC inviting Stanford, Cal and SMU - They Will Win the National Championship

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EasternVol said:
Regarding your second paragraph, there's much more to college athletics than football. Stanford is top tier in a lot of sports.
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While I agree, this hasn't mattered for realignment. If it did, the B1G would have offered Cal and Stanford a spot. SEC would have likely invited Kansas with Missouri and A&M as well.
 
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ENGRVOL said:
Can’t see where this increases tv revenue that much for the acc and now you are splitting the tv revenue amount 3 more teams. FSU and Clemson were headed eventually anyway to the sec but this may speed up the process.
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Two of the teams are only taking a 30% cut of the normal revenue share.

And SMU came onboard while willingly to completely and entirely forgo its share for 7-9 years.

There’s where the extra money is likely coming from.

Even supposing that the new tv arrangement were to keep it at the exact same average of each ACC school receiving $39.5M per year, that’s an additional $94.8M (70 percent of 39.5 + 70 percent of 39.5 + 39.5) for the conference to split among the schools however it decides to do so.

And in all likelihood, they’re going to be starting at a higher value per school, so that number to split up will be higher.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Previously NC State voted no. It flipped.

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Anybody else of the thought that NC State just screwed itself long term ? The three sharks that would have been the only real landing spots in town were circling-preparing for a feeding frenzy and the Pack decided to briefly save the ACC.

Wonder if they figured they had minimal chances of an invite elsewhere?
 
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stolitonic said:
Anybody else of the thought that NC State just screwed itself long term ? The three sharks that would have been the only real landing spots in town were circling-preparing for a feeding frenzy and the Pack decided to briefly save the ACC.

Wonder if they figured they had minimal chances of an invite elsewhere?
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It’s likely that bottom part. They were never going to be tied to UNC.

Their only major conference chance really requires that the SEC wanting to get into NC after losing out on UNC joining. And if the SEC were to get UNC, NC State would find itself in the Big 12 or what’s left of the ACC.
 
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TrueOrange said:
It’s likely that bottom part. They were never going to be tied to UNC.

Their only major conference chance really requires that the SEC wanting to get into NC after losing out on UNC joining. And if the SEC were to get UNC, NC State would find itself in the Big 12 or what’s left of the ACC.
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UNC would be an incredible addition for the SEC, if/when the ACC implodes. UNC checks all the boxes, but it strikes me as a Big 10 school. I believe FSU and Clemson would pick the SEC.

That said, I never thought I’d see the day that Texas became an SEC institution.
 
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zjcvols said:
I cannot believe the five conference commissioners have not gotten together and formed a 64 or 70 team “Premier League” for football only. It just completely blows my mind that this is the direction we’ve taken.
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Don’t worry it’s coming, although it’ll be closer to 30-35 teams.
 
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bamawriter said:
This ought to put to bed any argument against players getting paid. Doing this to college athlete is not treating them like a student, it's treating them like an employee or a commodity.
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The NLRB is pushing this in CA already and the 3rd Circuit Court has a case also that the students are winning, currently.

I hope it's tied up forever but this won't help the NCAA's argument that it's mission is "education and the student-athlete."
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
The AAC announced an official decision on adding Oregon State and Washington State.
The conference will NOT add either.
That means the two programs have one option left, but it's more complicated than it looks on the surface.
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Conference USA and Sun Belt say no too?
I agree MWC is a better fit.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
The three new schools are not getting equal shares of the conference revenue. Cal and Stanford get 30% and SMU gets 0% of TV/broadcasting revnue. The ACC knew they were desperate and took advantage.

"Stanford and Cal would come in earning a reduced portion of the ACC’s annual average total distribution of roughly $35-40 million—a 30% share, according to sources, which would equate to about $8 million per school. That percentage would escalate over multiple years. SMU, according to sources, would forego its share of the media revenue altogether for multiple years and essentially come into the league earning only from non-media rights distributions such as bowl payouts, College Football Playoff distributions and NCAA tournament units. The money all three new entrants would be forfeiting would then go into a pool to be distributed as part of a so-called “success initiative” that will provide financial reward to ACC schools based on their teams’ performance in postseason play in revenue sports."
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I wonder if Cal, Stanford and SMU have to sign on to that godawful GOR that the ACC has and get sucked in until 2036 like the other schools?

For a partial/no media share, I'd be wary of getting tangled up too deeply in the ACC.
 
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GreveHaller said:
the hippies at Cal are gonna hate this when it dawns on them
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Do the hippies at Cal even realize there are sports other than hacky sack being played on campus?

Plus right now they're all at Burning Man or locked down because of the new covid variants.
 
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Something I think would be helpful, and Brett Yormark seems to be forward thinking enough to do something like this, is have ACC and the Big 12 partner ( I know, 2021 flashbacks, lol) and split geographically in non revenue sports.

So in money losing sports, let Stanford, Cal, and SMU compete in the Big 12 and Cincinnati, West Virginia, and UCF compete in the ACC. That would save lots of members in both conferences $$$.

Seems like that would be a winner for both sides.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Do the hippies at Cal even realize there are sports other than hacky sack being played on campus?

Plus right now they're all at Burning Man or locked down because of the new covid variants.
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suredo, they climb that tree next to the stadium and watch the games. Didnt you watch the Vols v Cali game?
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Do the hippies at Cal even realize there are sports other than hacky sack being played on campus?

Plus right now they're all at Burning Man or locked down because of the new covid variants.
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Hehehehe. It's not 1980.

Cal is about half Asian and Latino now. Still disturbingly liberal but no longer just rich white kids.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Not to be racist but Asian hippies?
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I've no idea. I do know CA and Cal are big supporters of diversity. Nobody could have guessed that, eh?

So when your state is something like 40% Latino and the immediate area around your school has a very strong Asian population, Cal really got what they asked for whether they actually wanted it or not.
 
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Hoosier_Vol said:
The AAC announced an official decision on adding Oregon State and Washington State.
The conference will NOT add either.
That means the two programs have one option left, but it's more complicated than it looks on the surface.
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Stewart Mandel had a great article this morning about this on The Athletic. He said the best option may be to stall until the 2026 season. NCAA rules allow a conference to stay under 8 members for two years. This would allow Oregon St and WASU to collect a boatload of cash in the process. The Mountain West’s current TV deal is up after the 2025 season. The PAC could then add the top teams from the Mountain West and remain a viable conference, although not likely P5.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Stewart Mandel had a great article this morning about this on The Athletic. He said the best option may be to stall until the 2026 season. NCAA rules allow a conference to stay under 8 members for two years. This would allow Oregon St and WASU to collect a boatload of cash in the process. The Mountain West’s current TV deal is up after the 2025 season. The PAC could then add the top teams from the Mountain West and remain a viable conference, although not likely P5.
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The PAC deal ends at the end of this season, I think. I also find it hard to believe ESPN/Fox don't have a "He's dead, Jim" clause in the contract to avoid paying just a few, in this case 2, schools a big bucket of money for nothing.

If they can pull that off this year, good for them. I'll just be really surprised if ESPN/Fox give them something like $250M? or whatever the PAC was getting to split between 2 schools. Then again, the world has gone crazy so who knows.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Do the hippies at Cal even realize there are sports other than hacky sack being played on campus?

Plus right now they're all at Burning Man or locked down because of the new covid variants.
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They will fit in well with Miami who I guess since 02 has forgotten that they also play some football

 
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